Political a**e licking

[Rifleman]

"Russ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I don't think that two different codes existed then
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> Russ
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League celebrated its Centenary a few years ago AFAIR...... There was an exhibition match with Bath
playing (I think) St Helens at Union and League...not surprisingly Bath won the Union match and St
Helens the League.... However, in their next League match St Helen's won a scrum "against the head"
and were also heard to shout "push"!

 

[Michael Macclan]

"Call me Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:54:28 -0000, "JP" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> Yeah, but that's not *real* Rugby, is it? *ahem*
> >>
> >> I'll get me coat.
> >
> >Please do. As far as I know Someone called Webb picked the ball up and ran with it. Presumably
> >with the idea of getting into the opponents goal with it.
> >
> >Unfortunately one code has decided to have the games decided by kickers
in
> >an endless penalty shoot out.
> >
> >Whilst the other remains true to Webb.
>
> Ah ha! An excellent reminder that I should never underestimate just how seriously some people will
> take almost anything.
>
> I am most grateful to you.
> --
>
> "Bob"

You knew what the reaction would be when you made your original post. Despite 'getting your coat'
you hung round to experience the reaction you were looking for.
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Michael MacClancy

 

[James Hodson]

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:07:06 -0000, "Russ" <[email protected]> wrote:

>You'd be quite entitled to a failing memory since they won the title in Paris in 1924 !!

<g> Never said I was there, Russ.

James

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"Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

 

[Jp]

"rifleman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Russ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > I don't think that two different codes existed then
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
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> League celebrated its Centenary a few years ago AFAIR......

Rugby League started in 1895 actually. The History is here http://www.rl1895.com/rugby-divide.htm

> There was an exhibition match with Bath playing (I think) St Helens at
Union
> and League...not surprisingly Bath won the Union match and St Helens the League....
>
>
Wrong St Helens played Sale this year. There was a previous cross code challenge game between Wigan
and Bath in 1996. Wigan thrashed Bath 82-6 at league but were beaten 44-19 in the return match under
union rules. So embarrassing was the 82-6 thrashing that Wigan after a few minutes brought on lots
of lads from the academy side to run even more rings around Mike Catt's boys. The return game at
Twickers will be remembered for the first ever forward pass being penalised in RU as Wigan had a
fabulous handling move started in the their own touch in goal belatedly disallowed. It was even
better than famous Gareth Edwards Bar-Bars try.

 

[James Hodson]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:15:42 -0000, "JP" <[email protected]> wrote:

>The return game at Twickers will be remembered for the first ever forward pass being penalised in
>RU as Wigan had a fabulous handling move started in the their own touch in goal belatedly
>disallowed. It was even better than famous Gareth Edwards Bar-Bars try.

I've yet to find a definition of a forward pass. Are the laws on the www anywhere?

Consider a player running at 15mph and passing the ball backwards at 10mph: the ball will move
forwards at 5mph. Is this illegal or not?

James

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"Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

 

[Nc]

"James Hodson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:15:42 -0000, "JP" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The return game at Twickers will be remembered for the first ever forward pass being penalised in
> >RU as Wigan had a fabulous handling move started
in
> >the their own touch in goal belatedly disallowed. It was even better
than
> >famous Gareth Edwards Bar-Bars try.
>
> I've yet to find a definition of a forward pass. Are the laws on the www anywhere?

Probably.

> Consider a player running at 15mph and passing the ball backwards at 10mph: the ball will move
> forwards at 5mph. Is this illegal or not?

As I understand it : At the point the ball leaves the first player, draw a line across the pitch. If
the collecting player catches the ball ahead of the line, its a forwards pass. The line is drawn
from the ball, and the catch is the position of the ball, not the player.

 

[James Annan]

James Hodson wrote:

> Consider a player running at 15mph and passing the ball backwards at 10mph: the ball will move
> forwards at 5mph. Is this illegal or not?

Illegal in principle. Rarely penalised in practice. "Forward" is defined relative to the ground in
the obvious manner, but you wouldn't realise this from watching TV!

James

 

[Michael Macclan]

"NC" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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> "James Hodson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:15:42 -0000, "JP" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >The return game at Twickers will be remembered for the first ever
forward
> > >pass being penalised in RU as Wigan had a fabulous handling move
started
> in
> > >the their own touch in goal belatedly disallowed. It was even better
> than
> > >famous Gareth Edwards Bar-Bars try.
> >
> > I've yet to find a definition of a forward pass. Are the laws on the www anywhere?
>
> Probably.
>
>
> > Consider a player running at 15mph and passing the ball backwards at 10mph: the ball will move
> > forwards at 5mph. Is this illegal or not?
>
> As I understand it : At the point the ball leaves the first player, draw a line across the
pitch.
> If the collecting player catches the ball ahead of the line, its a
forwards
> pass. The line is drawn from the ball, and the catch is the position of
the
> ball, not the player.
>
>

See http://www.irb.com/laws_regs/laws/pdfs/law12.pdf
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Michael MacClancy

 

[James Hodson]

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:33:35 +0900, James Annan <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Consider a player running at 15mph and passing the ball backwards at 10mph: the ball will move
>> forwards at 5mph. Is this illegal or not?
>
>Illegal in principle. Rarely penalised in practice. "Forward" is defined relative to the ground in
>the obvious manner, but you wouldn't realise this from watching TV!
>

In practice being the operative words. See Michael's
<http://www.irb.com/laws_regs/laws/pdfs/law12.pdf> for THE TRUTH!!

BTW, what is (was?) the point in referee André Watson?

I'm a bit of a fan of American Football. In a recent Superbowl (2000, I think) the game was tied
with only a few seconds to play and the side that eventually lost had just scored. As per the game's
rules, the side that had just conceded the points kicked off. The kick returner caught the ball and
laterelled (passed not forwards) to a team mate who scored s moment later.

To my eyes and to those of the commentators that pass looked forwards. It was only under the action
replay that the pass was shown to be parallel to the goal lines.Touchdown! Win! Fireworks!

James

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[James Hodson]

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:01:01 -0000, "Michael MacClancy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>See http://www.irb.com/laws_regs/laws/pdfs/law12.pdf
>

Thanks Michael

So the pass would be forwards in the example I gave. I used to play the game at school and for a
short time after I left but I have not, until now, been given a definitive answer.

Cheers James

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