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  1. Hi all. I'm currently a very new newbie with my first unicycle. Up to
    this point, my practice has taken place in my basement between the
    workbench and a wooden railing. This gives me about 15-20 feet to travel
    back and forth on with support on both sides. I'm getting to where I can
    go the length of the workbench while only occasionally putting a hand
    down lightly on one side or the other to regain my balance.

    My problem is space. My uni has a 24" wheel which you might guess only
    gives me about 2 crank rotations before I have to stop and turn around.
    Off the top of my head, I can't recall any local places with a wall next
    to a smooth, level paved surface. I'm thinking if I use two lightweight
    poles similar to ski poles to steady myself while I'm learning I could
    be a little less selective while looking for a place to practice. Has
    anyone used a similar method? Good Idea or bad idea? Thanks.

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  2. on unicycle.com it says not to use training poles but if you can't find
    a level place it might be ok. I guess i wasn't of much help. sorry.
    kelly.

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  3. on unicycle.com it says not to use training poles but if you can't find
    a level place it might be ok. I guess i wasn't of much help. sorry.
    kelly.

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  4. Try a tennis court. Tennis courts are level, smooth and you can hold
    onto the chain link fence around the court. A great place to get
    started.

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  5. mucRider said:

    *Try a tennis court. Tennis courts are level, smooth and you can hold
    onto the chain link fence around the court. A great place to get
    started. *


    Not a bad Idea. I think there actually might be a tennis court that I
    can walk to.

    BTW.. Anybody know why training poles are a bad idea? Just curious.

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  6. cafn8 said:

    *BTW.. Anybody know why training poles are a bad idea? Just curious. *

    You can end up falling on the poles. If you fall badly you could end up
    goring yourself with one of the poles.

    If you use good poles with good handles and good caps over the ends so
    they won't gore you, they'll be safer. Something with ski pole handles
    might be good. Ski pole handles are big and blunt and completely cover
    the end of the pole so it won't gore you.

    But you'll still run the risk of getting tangled up in the poles when
    you fall.

    I didn't try using poles when I learned and I've never seen anyone use
    poles during the learning process so I don't know how effective they
    would be.

    I know some people who have used a hiking stick to aid in self mounting.
    They were able to ride the unicycle but had difficulty mounting out in
    the open so they carried a hiking stick with them. The hiking stick was
    used only to aid in mounting and not as an aid to stay on the
    unicycle.

    Just be careful if you try using a hiking stick or similar aid. Falls
    while you are learning to ride can be uncontrolled and there is the risk
    that you could fall in odd ways on the hiking stick and injure yourself.

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  7. Hi Cafn8

    Ive just gotten away from always using the wall, and now I'm in the
    launching myself into the abyss mode, and I get better every day. Still
    not there yet...
    Poles--Some people say they are good, but most of the info I've heard is
    pretty negative.
    What seemed to work for me was going along a wall and getting used to
    the sensation of doing many, many rotations with my fingers just tapping
    the wall. Admittedly, I became way too dependent on the wall, but it did
    prove to be totally useful once I stopped using it.
    Instead of poles, why not get a pair of heavy duty work gloves from the
    hardwear store, wear them with wrist protectors, get out of your house
    and find a wall somewhere what's at least 70 feet long. Get to know the
    feel of riding the uni for long excursions-- the gloves will protect
    your fingers--they might get worn away as well, but that doesnt
    matter.
    And just when your wall riding gets nice and smooth, start propelling
    yourself away from it; head into the abyss!
    Oh, and about the poles--come to think of it, I did use them--a long
    time ago when I was a teenager. If I remember correctly, the experience
    was awkward, and I stopped using the poles in favor of a fence in my
    parents back yard.
    (I since went for 30 years without a uni, so my teenage experience on
    the unicycle was no where near as excellent as my current experience is,
    but perhaps those pole's were discouraging?)
    I hope this was helpful...
    Steve

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  8. i found using a wall worked best for me. using poles seems like a
    negative to me since it would have made me even more wobbly. i tried
    once with a single broom pole and it didnt work at all!

    i found the best way was to start with a curb to the back of my wheel,
    negating the ability to roll backwards. it helped not only with learning
    to freemount but also to just go forward.

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    and remember ladies and gentlemen all this done without the assistance
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  9. The method that worked best for me was to lean against a wall with my
    right hand, then my left. After that, I started by the wall and just
    went on a suicide run forward. I found it worked very well.

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  10. Robbo said:

    *The method that worked best for me was to lean against a wall with my
    right hand, then my left. After that, I started by the wall and
    just went on a suicide run forward. I found it worked very well. *

    This is pretty much the same way I learned. I rode along side a wall
    until i felt comfortable, then I just held onto a pole to get up and
    balance for a second, then just rode away on a "suicide run." That
    worked really well. At first you will probably only be able to go a
    rotation or two, then all of the sudden, you will just take off at go
    like, 50 feet. If you keep using some kind of pole (I used a lamp post)
    to gain some starting balance, then ride off, in not a whole lot of time
    you should be riding pretty well. Good luck.

    Jason

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  11. The tennis court is probably the easiest thing to find around. Good
    places to look are parks and school grounds.

    I learned on a thin hallway to start and moved to a baseball field which
    had a pretty smooth dirt surface. When I got balance I could veer away
    from the fence.

    The reason for finding a good area is that you will be able to use it in
    the future for other skills, like riding backward, wheel walking, etc. A
    tennis court is great for practicing lots of freestyle skills. They
    usually have a slight slope to one side, which you can use to advantage
    in learning some skills.

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  12. Question: "I'm thinking if I use two lightweight poles similar to ski
    poles to steady myself while I'm learning I could be a little less
    selective while looking for a place to practice. Has anyone used a
    similar method? Good Idea or bad idea?"

    Reply: I used the blunted 'ski pole strategy' for a few hours last
    Fall while learning to ride a 24" Torker. It was fun to try, but my
    feeling is that it actually may have slowed my progress somewhat.
    (I'd plant both poles to get started and then would simply stagger
    along, insect-like, alternating poles while trying to keep upright.)
    After gaining some confidence, I abandoned the poles, and tried using
    a grocery cart in an empty supermarket parking lot. That was fun, but
    that wasn't very effective, I think. Later, I found a parked semi
    trailer, a 60 footer, and used that as a swell wall (pedalin' first
    clockwise and then counter clockwise around the trailer), steadying
    myself with gloved hand. After that found a long hallway in an
    enclosed building (since the snow had come to the norther prairie).
    I'd get up to speed using the wall, and then just try and pedal away
    from the wall a short distance. Somehow all this eventually clicked!
    Now, 95 hours after my first fall I'm zipping around the local bike
    paths on a Coker. Practice, practice, practice! 😉 You'll get it!
    --carl (North Dakota)

  13. Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll abandon the pole idea. My thought
    was that by bringing my own supports I could choose a more secluded area
    and be a little less self conscious (and concentrate a bit better.) I'd
    rather not have an audience until I can actually keep the thing under me
    a little. :eek: No big deal. After practicing a bit in my basement it
    -feels- like it shouldn't be long before I can stay up unaided. We'll
    soon find out. 🙂

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  14. your best learning aid remains your attitude

    keep us posted

    🙂

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  15. "Robbo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    The method that worked best for me was to lean against a wall with my
    right hand, then my left. After that, I started by the wall and just
    went on a suicide run forward. I found it worked very well.

    If you have worked with the basement wall, consider launching off from
    the back of a car.

  16. swim learning said:

    *If you have worked with the basement wall, consider launching off
    from the back of a car.*


    u just reminded me of my very first learning session!!
    going up and down along the side of my car, occasionally trying to
    overshoot the boot and getting a revolution or two in b4 coming off

    and all that while watching my friend ride up and down the road, as
    nonchalant as anything
    grrr
    😠

    nostalgia is fun
    😉

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  17. I am also a newbie... I got my first Uni Last week and I have been
    practicing at a baseball field, with a chain link backstop. I would ride
    along from dugout to dugout on the inside of the fench. I was working
    pretty good, the dirt was level and hard packed. But a couple of days
    ago it was raining, and the field was muddy, so I used the same chain
    link backstop but stayed on the outside where it is paved. It was so
    much easier riding on concret. As of yesterday my longest ride with out
    holding the fence is about 35 feet. I only did it 4 times, but Iam
    encouraged to keep practicing. Good luck.

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  18. yes, i used the same way to learn how to ride my unicycle, hands on both
    sides of somthing ,and it worked for me..

    Now im sorta remembering it more, now that im learning how to ride along
    poles, bc there is a railing along the pole enough for me to hold onto
    and ride the pole just lower. Its going along good, i can go for about
    2.5 m on a pole, about 2/3 the width of my tire.

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  19. zimzam said:

    *As of yesterday my longest ride with out holding the fence is about
    35 feet. I only did it 4 times, but Iam encouraged to keep practicing.
    *


    and by the time u read this, chances are u've probably been all the way
    around the ballpark on your uni

    keep us posted

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  20. A wall or fence (or someone else's car) are going to work better than
    poles for a few reasons:
    - They're more stable. You just lean and get to concentrate on the
    riding, not the support.
    - They're to the sides. Side to side balance is the relatively easy
    part. When first starting out, you need to learn the front-to-back
    control. Holding a support that's in front of you, like poles or a
    shopping cart, limits your forward-backward movement and can slow the
    learning process.

    Some people who learned to ride by holding onto things in front of them
    learn to ride with bent-over, bad posture. Basically when you ride a
    unicycle you should sit up straight, like your mom always told you to.
    This gives you the most control for normal riding. Learning to ride in
    another position will just add something you'll need to unlearn later.
    Stick to the wall/fence, and then away...

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