Polar HRM Question

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I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5 times. No idea how long it was
on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen only displays FILE and will not respond to pushing
the button. It acted flaky for a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses
before the last ride. Does anyone know if this behavior indicates low battery, or another
problem? Thanks.

B. Another problem, it's needless techno [censored].

JD

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I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5 times.

No

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idea how long it was on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen only displays FILE and will
not respond to pushing the button. It acted flaky

for

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a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses

before

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the last ride. Does anyone know if this behavior indicates low battery,

or

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another problem? Thanks.

B. Another problem, it's needless techno [censored].

JD

I don't think it's needless. Sometimes, it'll be higher than normal, even for light riding, so
you'll know that you've overtrained and should go light. You'll know what your max HR really is and
can back off when you near it (I used to set the alarm to go off). You can determine whether the
same ride is easier than it used to be because your average HR will be lower. You can then increase
the distance or speed.

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I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5 times. No idea how long it was
on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen only displays FILE and will not respond to pushing
the button. It acted flaky for a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses
before the last ride. Does anyone know if this behavior indicates low battery, or another
problem? Thanks.

B. Another problem, it's needless techno [censored].

JD

Having just gotten one for the first time, it's helped me realize that I've been beating the [censored]
out of myself for most of my life. I should be able to get similar (if not identical) conditioning
benefits without working so damn hard at it.

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worried about an opponent who uses nation building and the military in the same sentence. See, our
view of the military is for the military to be properly prepared to fight and win war and therefore,
prevent war from happening in the first place." George Bush, Nov. 6, 2000

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I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5 times.

No

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idea how long it was on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen only displays FILE and will
not respond to pushing the button. It acted flaky

for

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a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses

before

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the last ride. Does anyone know if this behavior indicates low battery,

or

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another problem? Thanks.

B. Another problem, it's needless techno [censored].

JD

Useless waste of bandwidth. Why am I not surprised?

I have a protrainer with a dead battery. My experience with the dying battery is that I started
having transmission/reception problems in the final weeks before it crapped out. I would have no
heartrate for a minute or two then it would jump to 250+. It would finally settle in to something
reasonable, but not before buggering up the average. Your mileage may vary.

This thread reminds me that I have send that thing to Polar for a new battery.

-Dave

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I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5 times.

No

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idea how long it was on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen only displays FILE and will not
respond to pushing the button. It acted flaky

for

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a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses before the last ride. Does
anyone know if this behavior indicates low battery, or another problem? Thanks.

James

JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks. Most people
will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the result of
wearing that tachometer.

-Dave

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JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if

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breaks.

So, don't chow on the big fry-ups.

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Most people will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

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I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the result
of wearing that tachometer.

how you feel that matters, not what the number is.

"My chest hurts and I'm short of breath <look at HRM>, oh, it says XYZ number, I was OK with that
yesterday, the 'book' says I'm OK with that number, guess I'll just carry on!
<ArrrrggggGHHHHH...uh... ..........uh.......
............................................................................ .........>."

Shaun aRe - screw the numbers and listen to your body, unless your heart is

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JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if

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breaks. Most people will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the result
of wearing that tachometer.

So what are your normal RPM's? BTW, I took the back off, removed the battery, and replaced it and it
worked. Time will tell how long it will keep working. Despite what some people think, I'm finding it
quite usefull. My pulse-rate is naturally pretty high, so I really want to try to keep it from
getting beyond a certain rate.

James

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JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks. Most people
will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

That's funny. If I tell you that you can jump your XC bike off of the Cliffs Of Dover, I bet you'd
do that as well.

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I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the result
of wearing that tachometer.

That's because you've been told you can't and like a fool, think this is true. Anyone who can count
past 10 without taking their shoes off doesn't need that techno [censored].

JD

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JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks. Most people
will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

That's funny. If I tell you that you can jump your XC bike off of the Cliffs Of Dover, I bet you'd
do that as well.

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I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the result
of wearing that tachometer.

That's because you've been told you can't and like a fool, think this is true. Anyone who can
count past 10 without taking their shoes off doesn't need that techno [censored].

JD

Tell that one to Lance Armstrong. I guarantee he uses a HRM for training. Hell, he wrote a book on
how to use a HRM effectively in training. I'm gonna assume he can count past 10...

Nate

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JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks. Most
people will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

That's funny. If I tell you that you can jump your XC bike off of the Cliffs Of Dover, I bet
you'd do that as well.

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I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the
result of wearing that tachometer.

That's because you've been told you can't and like a fool, think this is true. Anyone who can
count past 10 without taking their shoes off doesn't need that techno [censored].

JD

Tell that one to Lance Armstrong. I guarantee he uses a HRM for training. Hell, he wrote a book on
how to use a HRM effectively in training. I'm gonna assume he can count past 10...

Are you a World Class road racer? Is anyone here on am-b a World Class road racer? Let's see some
hands. Dipshit namedropper.

JD

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> JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks. Most
> people will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.

That's funny. If I tell you that you can jump your XC bike off of the Cliffs Of Dover, I bet
you'd do that as well.

> I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the
> result of wearing that tachometer.

That's because you've been told you can't and like a fool, think this is true. Anyone who can
count past 10 without taking their shoes off doesn't need that techno [censored].

JD

Tell that one to Lance Armstrong. I guarantee he uses a HRM for training. Hell, he wrote a book
on how to use a HRM effectively in training. I'm gonna assume he can count past 10...

Are you a World Class road racer? Is anyone here on am-b a World Class road racer? Let's see some
hands. Dipshit namedropper.

JD

Just where does it say you have to be a World Class road racer to enjoy the benefits of maximizing
your body's potiental? I guess the manufacturer should not even make the wicked things available to
us dipshits in the general public, 'cuz we have no business using them.

Maybe someone racing expert for the past 2 years could effectively maximize his/her output by using
a HRM, moving them into semi-pro. Maybe even moving from sport to expert class is a great
accomplishment for some. Maybe someone doesn't even race, but wants to put the smack down on some
chump who runs their suck on the trail. Only a dipshit believes that only World Class road racers
can benefit from a HRM.

Nate

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I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5 times.

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idea how long it was on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen only displays FILE and will
not respond to pushing the button. It acted flaky

for

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a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses

before

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the last ride. Does anyone know if this behavior indicates low battery,

or

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another problem? Thanks.

B. Another problem, it's needless techno [censored].

JD

Useless waste of bandwidth. Why am I not surprised?

This was you, right?

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So just wear the men's shorts. Who'll know and what's the big deal?

Go hump someone else's leg, Delbert.

JD

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> > JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks. Most
> > people will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.
>
> That's funny. If I tell you that you can jump your XC bike off of the Cliffs Of Dover, I bet
> you'd do that as well.
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> > I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is the
> > result of wearing that tachometer.
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> That's because you've been told you can't and like a fool, think this is true. Anyone who
> can count past 10 without taking their shoes off doesn't need that techno [censored].
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> JD

Tell that one to Lance Armstrong. I guarantee he uses a HRM for training. Hell, he wrote a
book on how to use a HRM effectively in training. I'm gonna assume he can count past 10...

Are you a World Class road racer? Is anyone here on am-b a World Class road racer? Let's see
some hands. Dipshit namedropper.

JD

Just where does it say you have to be a World Class road racer to enjoy the benefits of maximizing
your body's potiental?

You sound like a commercial. Marketing people love drones like you.

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I guess the manufacturer should not even make the wicked things available to us dipshits in the
general public, 'cuz we have no business using them.

They know that there's one born every minute. How does it feel to be one of the "ones"?

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Maybe someone racing expert for the past 2 years could effectively maximize his/her output by
using a HRM, moving them into semi-pro.

Racing mountain bikes is almost as lame as hanging 10 lbs of needless junk on your bike or body.

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Maybe even moving from sport to expert class is a great accomplishment for some.

Then they can throw a party for themselves. Whoop-de-friggin-do.

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Maybe someone doesn't even race, but wants to put the smack down on some chump who runs their suck
on the trail.

It doesn't matter unless it's a luddite on a rigid singlespeed. Techno-crutch users will always be
pathetic, no matter how fast they *think* they are.

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Only a dipshit believes that only World Class road racers can benefit from a HRM.

No, only a dipshit would have read that into my post.

JD

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> > > JD, your heart is not some other part that can be replaced or upgraded if it breaks.
> > > Most people will naturally tend to overdo it. An HRM keeps you sane and healthy.
> >
> > That's funny. If I tell you that you can jump your XC bike off of the Cliffs Of Dover, I
> > bet you'd do that as well.
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> > > I can not usually predict my HR to within a few beats just by how I feel, but this is
> > > the result of wearing that tachometer.
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> > That's because you've been told you can't and like a fool, think this is true. Anyone who
> > can count past 10 without taking their shoes off doesn't need that techno [censored].
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> > JD
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> Tell that one to Lance Armstrong. I guarantee he uses a HRM for training. Hell, he wrote a
> book on how to use a HRM effectively in training. I'm gonna assume he can count past 10...

Are you a World Class road racer? Is anyone here on am-b a World Class road racer? Let's see
some hands. Dipshit namedropper.

JD

Just where does it say you have to be a World Class road racer to enjoy the benefits of
maximizing your body's potiental?

You sound like a commercial. Marketing people love drones like you.

avoiding the point...

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I guess the manufacturer should not even make the wicked things available to us dipshits in the
general public, 'cuz we have no business using them.

They know that there's one born every minute. How does it feel to be one of the "ones"?

I think it feels great to do whatever I enjoy doing and not worry what others think about it. More
people should try it.

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Maybe someone racing expert for the past 2 years could effectively maximize his/her output by
using a HRM, moving them into semi-pro.

Racing mountain bikes is almost as lame as hanging 10 lbs of needless junk on your bike or body.

Everyone has an opinion. You may like blondes and I may prefer brunettes... I'm not going to waste
my time trying to sway anyones thoughts or call them a fool for doing something different than me.

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Maybe even moving from sport to expert class is a great accomplishment for some.

Then they can throw a party for themselves. Whoop-de-friggin-do.

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Maybe someone doesn't even race, but wants to put the smack down on some chump who runs their
suck on the trail.

It doesn't matter unless it's a luddite on a rigid singlespeed. Techno-crutch users will always be
pathetic, no matter how fast they *think* they are.

How do you figure?

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Only a dipshit believes that only World Class road racers can benefit from a HRM.

No, only a dipshit would have read that into my post.

I wasn't referring to you. But since we are on the topic of calling names, does it make you feel
good to call people names like drone, dipshit, and fool?

JD, I agree with alot of your advice to people. But sometimes, I think you take some simple things a
bit far. Just one person's opinion. No biggie.

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JD

Nate -gonna go onna nite ride now wit mah teckno schit hid lite-

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> I got my Polar A1 HRM in December, but only have only used it 4-5

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> idea how long it was on the shelf before I ordered it. The screen

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> displays FILE and will not respond to pushing the button. It acted

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> a day or two before this, but finally seemed to regain it's senses

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> the last ride. Does anyone know if this behavior indicates low

battery,

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> another problem? Thanks.

B. Another problem, it's needless techno [censored].

JD

Useless waste of bandwidth. Why am I not surprised?

This was you, right?

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So just wear the men's shorts. Who'll know and what's the big deal?

Go hump someone else's leg, Delbert.

JD

Sure, I throw out a comment occasionally to see what kind of reaction it gets. But you only seem to
know one song.

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using them.

Maybe someone racing expert for the past 2 years could effectively maximize his/her output by
using a HRM, moving them into semi-pro. Maybe even moving from sport to expert class is a great
accomplishment for some. Maybe someone doesn't even race, but wants to put the smack down on some
chump who runs their suck on the trail. Only a dipshit believes that only World Class road racers
can benefit from a HRM.

Nate

All I've ever gotten out of reading about these gizmos, hearing testimonies from closet gay roadies
on mtnbikes, and even some mtb'ers I respect, is that I'm always over-training, and need more long,
easy rides. Well, I like the gutbusters and don't have the patience for long and easy, and I'm
pretty healthy. I know I have a low resting hr, and a quick recovery. But so what. How many people
actually die from over exertion, who are in reasonably good shape to begin with, and who could have
been saved by a hrm?

I'm not knocking them, I'm just not gonna get one and have it tell me to slow down, take it easy,
shave my legs, dress like a peacock, swish when I walk.

Paladin Now that was logical, wasn't it?

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using them.

Maybe someone racing expert for the past 2 years could effectively maximize his/her output by
using a HRM, moving them into semi-pro. Maybe even moving from sport to expert class is a great
accomplishment for some. Maybe someone doesn't even race, but wants to put the smack down on
some chump who runs their suck on the trail. Only a dipshit believes that only World Class road
racers can benefit from a HRM.

Nate

All I've ever gotten out of reading about these gizmos, hearing testimonies from closet gay
roadies on mtnbikes, and even some mtb'ers I respect, is that I'm always over-training, and need
more long, easy rides. Well, I like the gutbusters and don't have the patience for long and easy,
and I'm pretty healthy. I know I have a low resting hr, and a quick recovery.

I'm in the same boat as you. I like hard, fast rides...

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But so what. How many people actually die from over exertion, who are in reasonably good shape to
begin with, and who could have been saved by a hrm?

Death from over exertion wasn't my point. A HRM might be a simple way for someone who cares for
whatever reason to become faster on a bike to help achieve that goal.

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I'm not knocking them, I'm just not gonna get one and have it tell me to slow down, take it easy,
shave my legs, dress like a peacock, swish when I walk.

They are certainly not for everyone. I never would have purchased one myself, but after getting one
as a gift and using it, I can see where it's use is helpful. As far as shaving legs and dressing
like a peacock; not my style either...

Nate

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Paladin Now that was logical, wasn't it?

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Maybe someone racing expert for the past 2 years could effectively maximize his/her output by
using a HRM, moving them into semi-pro. Maybe even moving from sport to expert class is a
great accomplishment for some. Maybe someone doesn't even race, but wants to put the smack
down on some chump who runs their suck on the trail. Only a dipshit believes that only World
Class road racers can benefit from a HRM.

Nate

All I've ever gotten out of reading about these gizmos, hearing testimonies from closet gay
roadies on mtnbikes, and even some mtb'ers I respect, is that I'm always over-training, and need
more long, easy rides. Well, I like the gutbusters and don't have the patience for long and
easy, and I'm pretty healthy. I know I have a low resting hr, and a quick recovery.

I'm in the same boat as you. I like hard, fast rides...

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But so what. How many people actually die from over exertion, who are in reasonably good shape
to begin with, and who could have been saved by a hrm?

Death from over exertion wasn't my point. A HRM might be a simple way for someone who cares for
whatever reason to become faster on a bike to help achieve that goal.

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I'm not knocking them, I'm just not gonna get one and have it tell me to slow down, take it
easy, shave my legs, dress like a peacock, swish when I walk.

They are certainly not for everyone. I never would have purchased one myself, but after getting
one as a gift and using it, I can see where it's use is helpful. As far as shaving legs and
dressing like a peacock; not my style either...

Nate

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Paladin Now that was logical, wasn't it?

I was having some fun with you, as the best racers I know (a couple of which I occasionally ride
with) all use them, because it's a very competitive field out there, especially sport/expert. I'm on
a loooong hiatus from racing, and would only go back on the SS, but would be willing to train with
one to get the most out of my training.

But I'm not training now. I'm just riding. Bit like a cell phone. Everybody I know has one. Only a
percentage of them really need it. I don't carry one. Kinda retro, not wanting to be on everyone's
immediate leash. If they want to talk to me, they can call me where there's a phone, or come find
me. Or just flat go without the excitement of my company. [gasp]

Hope yours helps you achieve your goals. If its a good tool, then don't let anybody discourage you.
Especially not some usenet idiots that don't really exist, except in the MATRIX.....ahhh, there's a
shift, eh?

Paladin