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  1. Just ridden back from a nice country lane run, to be overtaken by some
    [censored] in a little Lotus Elise, possibly travelling well in excess of
    70mph. Approached home to see a police car closing off our road, a
    pranged (really pranged) Fiat of some sort, and [censored] in t'Lotus
    broadside. Poetry in motion.

    Had a word with both officers, one said he's got a lot more on his mind
    at the moment. That shocked me - I had a [censored]-load more on my mind as
    [censored] in t'Lotus hammered past me even though I was lit up with four
    CatEyes, flourescent jacket, flashing ankle band, and a flashing LED
    Backupz. Other copper reckons he's looking at a good few points and
    said he'll have a word for me.

    Brilliant.

    --
    Hywel

  2. Hywel Jenkins said:

    Just ridden back from a nice country lane run, to be overtaken by some
    [censored] in a little Lotus Elise, possibly travelling well in excess of
    70mph. Approached home to see a police car closing off our road, a
    pranged (really pranged) Fiat of some sort, and [censored] in t'Lotus
    broadside. Poetry in motion.

    Had a word with both officers, one said he's got a lot more on his mind
    at the moment. That shocked me - I had a [censored]-load more on my mind as
    [censored] in t'Lotus hammered past me even though I was lit up with four
    CatEyes, flourescent jacket, flashing ankle band, and a flashing LED
    Backupz. Other copper reckons he's looking at a good few points and
    said he'll have a word for me.

    In your position I would file an official complaint against him. The
    Fiat driver might be interested in your story also. Normally I don't
    like the idea of kicking a man when he's down, but I'd be prepared to
    make an exception in this case.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:
    Hywel Jenkins said:

    Just ridden back from a nice country lane run, to be overtaken by some
    [censored] in a little Lotus Elise, possibly travelling well in excess of
    70mph. Approached home to see a police car closing off our road, a
    pranged (really pranged) Fiat of some sort, and [censored] in t'Lotus
    broadside. Poetry in motion.

    Had a word with both officers, one said he's got a lot more on his mind
    at the moment. That shocked me - I had a [censored]-load more on my mind as
    [censored] in t'Lotus hammered past me even though I was lit up with four
    CatEyes, flourescent jacket, flashing ankle band, and a flashing LED
    Backupz. Other copper reckons he's looking at a good few points and
    said he'll have a word for me.

    In your position I would file an official complaint against him. The
    Fiat driver might be interested in your story also. Normally I don't
    like the idea of kicking a man when he's down, but I'd be prepared to
    make an exception in this case.

    Plod didn't seem *that* interested, particularly when I commented that
    road tax doesn't afford car drivers any additional rights (other than
    the use of motorways and some dual carriageways, I suppose). Just after
    I posted an ambulance turned up, but I think that was just to deal with
    shock. The Lotus [censored] was getting a right earful from his better
    half, so I wouldn't expect him to be getting any boobie-play for a
    while.

    It looks as though he overshot a T junction in a 30 zone, residential
    area, and the fiat hit him from the side. There wasn't much damage to
    the Elise, though I imagine that the entire driver's side will need
    replacing. The Fiat was caved in at the front, but the doors opened and
    the windscreen was intact.

    I've only been cycling since the summer, and only took it up as training
    for the Great North Run during a long summer of injuries. This is the
    second near hit I've had, the previous occasion resulting in bruised
    knuckles as I put a dent in the side of a taxi as it side-swiped me.
    Still, his dent and not a scratch on my shiny new bike 🙂)

    --
    Hywel

  4. "Hywel Jenkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:
    Hywel Jenkins said:

    Just ridden back from a nice country lane run, to be overtaken by some
    [censored] in a little Lotus Elise, possibly travelling well in excess of
    70mph. Approached home to see a police car closing off our road, a
    pranged (really pranged) Fiat of some sort, and [censored] in t'Lotus
    broadside. Poetry in motion.

    Had a word with both officers, one said he's got a lot more on his mind
    at the moment. That shocked me - I had a [censored]-load more on my mind as
    [censored] in t'Lotus hammered past me even though I was lit up with four
    CatEyes, flourescent jacket, flashing ankle band, and a flashing LED
    Backupz. Other copper reckons he's looking at a good few points and
    said he'll have a word for me.


    Not sure what you'd be able to say other than you *estimate* he was
    travelling in excess of 70, when presumably he could legally have been
    travelling at 60 when he overtook you anyway? Your word against his. You
    arent claiming his car hit you or anything similar are you.

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Hywel Jenkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:50:26 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Just ridden back from a nice country lane run, to be overtaken by some
    >[censored] in a little Lotus Elise, possibly travelling well in excess of
    >70mph. Approached home to see a police car closing off our road, a
    >pranged (really pranged) Fiat of some sort, and [censored] in t'Lotus
    >broadside. Poetry in motion.
    >
    >Had a word with both officers, one said he's got a lot more on his mind
    >at the moment. That shocked me - I had a [censored]-load more on my mind as
    >[censored] in t'Lotus hammered past me even though I was lit up with four
    >CatEyes, flourescent jacket, flashing ankle band, and a flashing LED
    >Backupz. Other copper reckons he's looking at a good few points and
    >said he'll have a word for me.

    Not sure what you'd be able to say other than you *estimate* he was
    travelling in excess of 70, when presumably he could legally have been
    travelling at 60 when he overtook you anyway? Your word against his.

    Indeed, though I do know the road and drive it daily, so I have an idea
    of how long it takes to get from the point I first saw him to the point
    at which he passed me.

    Quoted message said:

    You arent claiming his car hit you or anything similar are you.

    No. Had he hit me and I'd made it home, he'd have needed help to get
    his head out of his exhaust pipe.

    --
    Hywel

  6. "Hywel Jenkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Hywel Jenkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...
    > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:50:26 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >Just ridden back from a nice country lane run, to be overtaken by
    > >some
    > >[censored] in a little Lotus Elise, possibly travelling well in excess of
    > >70mph. Approached home to see a police car closing off our road, a
    > >pranged (really pranged) Fiat of some sort, and [censored] in t'Lotus
    > >broadside. Poetry in motion.
    > >
    > >Had a word with both officers, one said he's got a lot more on his
    > >mind
    > >at the moment. That shocked me - I had a [censored]-load more on my mind
    > >as
    > >[censored] in t'Lotus hammered past me even though I was lit up with four
    > >CatEyes, flourescent jacket, flashing ankle band, and a flashing LED
    > >Backupz. Other copper reckons he's looking at a good few points and
    > >said he'll have a word for me.
    >

    Not sure what you'd be able to say other than you *estimate* he was
    travelling in excess of 70, when presumably he could legally have been
    travelling at 60 when he overtook you anyway? Your word against his.

    Indeed, though I do know the road and drive it daily, so I have an idea
    of how long it takes to get from the point I first saw him to the point
    at which he passed me.

    You may know that, you may be correct, but I dont believe it would be worth
    a warm bucket of spit in court.

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  7. Hywel Jenkins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Plod didn't seem *that* interested, particularly when I commented that
    road tax doesn't afford car drivers any additional rights (other than
    the use of motorways and some dual carriageways, I suppose). Just after
    I posted an ambulance turned up, but I think that was just to deal with
    shock. The Lotus [censored] was getting a right earful from his better
    half, so I wouldn't expect him to be getting any boobie-play for a
    while.

    Rather than rambling on about a non-existent tax, did you try the
    words "Excuse me officer, I'd like to make a formal complaint about a
    dangerous driving incident against the driver of what's left of this
    car"?

    --
    Dave...

  8. "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    You may know that, you may be correct, but I dont believe it would be worth
    a warm bucket of spit in court.

    Court, schmourt. If an official complaint were made the police would
    be bound to investigate. More hassle for the [censored] just when he
    doesn't want it, and possible supporting evidence for the innocent but
    pranged Fiat driver.

    --
    Dave...

  9. (Dave Kahn) said:

    "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    You may know that, you may be correct, but I dont believe it would be worth
    a warm bucket of spit in court.

    I do. This is witness evidence of what Mr [censored] was doing moments
    before, or at least before he caused a collision with the innocent Mr
    Fiat. I am sure that Mr Fiat's insurance company (hoping he IS
    insured) would be more than interested. Too much 'paperwork' for plod,
    hence the lack of interest. I am sure the original poster pays enough
    in Council Tax, so make plod do his/her job.

    Quoted message said:


    Court, schmourt. If an official complaint were made the police would
    be bound to investigate. More hassle for the [censored] just when he
    doesn't want it, and possible supporting evidence for the innocent but
    pranged Fiat driver.

    Yep, I' m right behind Dave on this one.

  10. "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Not sure what you'd be able to say other than you *estimate* he was
    travelling in excess of 70, when presumably he could legally have been
    travelling at 60 when he overtook you anyway? Your word against his. You
    arent claiming his car hit you or anything similar are you.

    It is an offence to drive without due consideration for other road
    users, so irrespective of the legal limit I'd say press for such a
    charge to be brought if he was doing anything over 30...

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not sure what you'd be able to say other than you *estimate* he was
    travelling in excess of 70, when presumably he could legally have been
    travelling at 60 when he overtook you anyway? Your word against his.

    Indeed, though I do know the road and drive it daily, so I have an idea
    of how long it takes to get from the point I first saw him to the point
    at which he passed me.

    You may know that, you may be correct, but I dont believe it would be worth
    a warm bucket of spit in court.

    Of course it wouldn't. Where did court come in to this? That said, had
    I made an official complaint, as other have said, the driver would have
    a few more questions to answer.

    --
    Hywel

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:

    Hywel Jenkins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Plod didn't seem *that* interested, particularly when I commented that
    road tax doesn't afford car drivers any additional rights (other than
    the use of motorways and some dual carriageways, I suppose). Just after
    I posted an ambulance turned up, but I think that was just to deal with
    shock. The Lotus [censored] was getting a right earful from his better
    half, so I wouldn't expect him to be getting any boobie-play for a
    while.

    Rather than rambling on about a non-existent tax, did you try the
    words "Excuse me officer, I'd like to make a formal complaint about a
    dangerous driving incident against the driver of what's left of this
    car"?

    No, I didn't ramble on about tax. I made a comment (as I said) about it
    during the conversation I had. The chat I had with the policeman was
    perfectly amicable. My purpose for talking to him was simply to say
    that I'd seen the car 10 minutes earlier being driving, IMO, recklessly.

    Had I seen the driver before he'd crashed I'd have simply said something
    along the lines of, "Look mate, nice car, but think about other road
    users, particularly cyclists on roads like this." As it stands now, the
    police may have done that for me and possibly carried more weight into
    the bargain.

    --
    Hywel

  13. Dave Kahn [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Court, schmourt. If an official complaint were made the police would
    be bound to investigate.

    A nice dream... the police here (Lothian and Borders) have actually
    admitted that they don't persue prosecution in the case of RTAs unless
    someone is seriously hurt because they don't have the money to do it.

    Despite that, I'd definately file a report just to add another black
    flag to his name. Depending on your honesty you could swear that you
    heard Islamic radio as he went past. Obviously a terr'rist y'ronor!

    Jon

  14. I saw a driver going at a reckless speed a few seconds before I came across
    a dead pedestrian, the driver didn't stop but had left his number plate
    behind. When I and two other independent witnesses went to court prepared to
    testify about his driving prior to and after the collision he pleaded guilty
    and was sentenced to one year.

    "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    You may know that, you may be correct, but I don't believe it would be


    worth

    Quoted message said:

    a warm bucket of spit in court.

    --
    Tumbleweed

  15. John Pitcock said:

    I saw a driver going at a reckless speed a few seconds before I came across
    a dead pedestrian, the driver didn't stop but had left his number plate
    behind. When I and two other independent witnesses went to court prepared to
    testify about his driving prior to and after the collision he pleaded guilty
    and was sentenced to one year.

    ONE YEAR?!?!?! For a hit-and-run causing death?!

    --
    Mark.
    http://tranchant.plus.com/

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, "John
    Pitcock" <j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com> says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    You may know that, you may be correct, but I don't believe it would be


    worth

    Quoted message said:

    a warm bucket of spit in court.

    Quoted message said:

    I saw a driver going at a reckless speed a few seconds before I came across
    a dead pedestrian, the driver didn't stop but had left his number plate
    behind. When I and two other independent witnesses went to court prepared to
    testify about his driving prior to and after the collision he pleaded guilty
    and was sentenced to one year.

    A year! Un-fscking-believable. What the heck is wrong with society?

    --
    Hywel

  17. Quoted message said:

    ONE YEAR?!?!?! For a hit-and-run causing death?!

    I'm surprised he didn't get off with a few points on the licence and a sixty
    squid fine and if the court was feeling particularly heavy-handed that day, a
    short ban :-/

    It just goes to show, yet again, that if you actually want to to someone over
    here, if the weapon of choice is a motor vehicle, you are most likely going to
    get away with it.. :-(

    helen s

    --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam--
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  18. "John Pitcock" <j-pitcock(nospam)@msn.com>typed

    Quoted message said:

    I saw a driver going at a reckless speed a few seconds before I came across
    a dead pedestrian, the driver didn't stop but had left his number plate
    behind. When I and two other independent witnesses went to court prepared to
    testify about his driving prior to and after the collision he pleaded guilty
    and was sentenced to one year.

    Don't you feel it should have been longer?

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

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