On May 28, 7:45 pm, Sir Jeremy <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28 May, 19:20, Colin McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Nick wrote:
> > > spindrift wrote:
> > >>http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1145
> > >> The evidence seems clear to me, motorbikes are faster moving, heavier,
> > >> and pose a greater risk to cyclists.
> > > I'd sign one to ban buses from bus lanes but I don't have a problem with
> > > motorbikes.
>
> > The issues are:
> > - Do you want to promote motorcycling?
> > Allowing them in bus lanes will increase their numbers throughout London..
> > - What are bus lanes for?
> > Buses.
> > - Why were cycles allowed in them?
> > Because of the effect of forcing them into the other lane (petrified
> > cyclists and delayed motorists). These effects do not happen with
> > motorbikes.
> > - How much space do you want when overtaken?
> > In a typical 3-metre bus lane, a cyclist riding far enough out to
> > prevent a taxi from squeezing past within the lane will leave about
> > 1.6m gap on their right. A motorcyclist would aim at the middle of
> > this gap, passing within half a metre of the cyclist. At present they
> > try to encroach as litle as possible on the bus lane.
>
> > The recommended width for a bus lane is 4.5m. Allowing motorbikes only
> > in bus lanes this wide would have less direct impact on cyclists'
> > safety, but would still promote motorcycling.
>
> > Colin McKenzie
>
> > --
> > No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at
> > the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as
> > walking.
> > Make an informed choice - visitwww.cyclehelmets.org.
>
> What's wrong with promoting motor bikes? They certainly reduce
> congestion
No-one's allowed powered private transport. Everyone's got to use
public transport and then walk/cycle the rest of the way, no matter
how inconvenient, expensive, unpleasant and unfeasible it is. And
while cycling, everyone's got to be a complete **** towards car
drivers, because cycling is morally superior to driving.
We've seen from the trolls' stubborn support of speed cameras that
their crusade against powered private transport is more important to
them than safety. Therefore, they would rather keep motorcycles out
of bus lanes, despite the safety benefits that it brings. More people
dying is OK as long as driving and motorcycling are discouraged. And
now, instead of just fantasising on forums about killing road users
like he usually does, Spindrift is trying to make sure that he and his
fellow trolls make a real contribution to the death toll with this
petition. Luckily, Boris won't listen, because he's aware of these
militant cyclists and their extremist, killer agendas. Being a decent-
minded cyclist himself, he must detest the way that cyclists'
reputations are tarnished by these idiot trolls and their misanthropic
hatred.
If (by any slim chance) anyone here is thinking of signing the
petition because they really think it will save lives, please be aware
that Spindrift is using you to further his anti-powered private
transport agenda, and the statistics show that allowing motorcycles
into bus lanes is safer for all road users. In other words, anyone
who signs this petition will have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.
Thanks
Mike
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