Plastic tyre levers...

Simon Mason said:

...are rubbish.

I beg to differ. No doubt *some* plastic tyre levers are
[censored], but certainly not all. Besides, what is the
alternative, metal levers on modern aluminium rims? No
thanks.

Mike Dyason sells plastic tyre levers at 3 for a pound (last
time I looked), they are excellent. I also have a couple of
Park plastic levers which are a much wider and thinner
design which also seem okay, if a bit less sturdy.

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I had my Lidl toolkit

Ah, yes well, I see where you may have gone wrong.
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Simon Mason typed:

Quoted message said:

...are rubbish.

Not all are .. I have some excellent levers in red, green
and black from (I think) James or St James cycles (can't
remember the name correctly) in Chesterfield .. they're
about 8 years old and have removed, and replaced in some
cases, loads of tyres with nary a flex.

Quoted message said:

I had my Lidl toolkit which included 3 tyre levers

I think we've found the problem .. 😉

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Simon Mason typed:

Quoted message said:

...are rubbish.

Quoted message said:

Not all are .. I have some excellent levers in red, green
and black from (I think) James or St James cycles (can't
remember the name correctly) in Chesterfield .. they're
about 8 years old and have removed, and replaced in some
cases, loads of tyres with nary a flex.

J E James IIRC.

I've had few problems with plastic tyre levers...

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Helen Deborah Vecht typed:

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Simon Mason typed:

Quoted message said:

...are rubbish.

Quoted message said:

Not all are .. I have some excellent levers in red, green
and black from (I think) James or St James cycles (can't
remember the name correctly) in Chesterfield .. they're
about 8 years old and have removed, and replaced in some
cases, loads of tyres with nary a flex.

J E James IIRC.

Could well be .. thanks.

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Quoted message said:

Simon Mason said:

...are rubbish.

I beg to differ. No doubt *some* plastic tyre levers
are [censored], but certainly not all. Besides, what is the
alternative, metal levers on modern aluminium rims?
No thanks.

Mike Dyason sells plastic tyre levers at 3 for a pound
(last time I looked), they are excellent. I also have a
couple of Park plastic levers which are a much wider and
thinner design which also seem okay, if a bit less sturdy.

Quoted message said:

I had my Lidl toolkit

Ah, yes well, I see where you may have gone wrong.

I use the yellow plastic Michelin ones, some web dealers
supply these free with tyre/tubes, very effective also
however very sharp so care is required. Had very few
punctures with Michelin Axial-Bi Sport 23's.

in message <[email hidden]>, Simon Mason

(') said:

After about 30 miles I got my first puncture on a road
bike. Luckily it was in Hull and there was a nice bench
nearby to sit on. I had my Lidl toolkit which included 3
tyre levers, which turned out to be completely useless.
They were far too bendy to take the tyre off, but as it
turned out there was a screwdriver in the kit and I
managed to get the tyre off with that.

I bet screwdrivers from Lidl are completely useless too. Not
all plastic is cheese, just as not all metal is. You do get
what you pay for, and even good quality plastic tyre levers
are cheap. I've used plastic tyre levers for years and
wouldn't have any other kind now. Apart from being lighter
and more convenient, they don't scratch your rims.

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:05:09 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>
wrote (more or less):

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in message <[email hidden]>, Simon

Mason (') said:

After about 30 miles I got my first puncture on a road
bike. Luckily it was in Hull and there was a nice bench
nearby to sit on. I had my Lidl toolkit which included 3
tyre levers, which turned out to be completely useless.
They were far too bendy to take the tyre off, but as it
turned out there was a screwdriver in the kit and I
managed to get the tyre off with that.

I bet screwdrivers from Lidl are completely useless too.
Not all plastic is cheese, just as not all metal is.

Although a lot of cheap metal screwdrivers are highly
plastic! :-)

Quoted message said:

You do get what you pay for, and even good quality
plastic tyre levers are cheap. I've used plastic tyre
levers for years and wouldn't have any other kind now.
Apart from being lighter and more convenient, they don't
scratch your rims.

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

Quoted message said:

Simon Mason typed:

Quoted message said:

...are rubbish.

Quoted message said:

Not all are .. I have some excellent levers in red, green
and black from (I think) James or St James cycles (can't
remember the name correctly) in Chesterfield .. they're
about 8 years old and have removed, and replaced in some
cases, loads of tyres with nary a flex.

J E James IIRC.

I've had few problems with plastic tyre levers...

Me neither, though admittedly I've only used them twice, and
my tyres aren't as hard as some to get off the rim. The
second time was yesterday, when I had my first 'proper'
puncture - rear wheel had been ticking for a while, but I
thought the stone would work it's way out... no... should
have stopped and removed it...

Not gone a mile from the tea stop on the ride when I decided
the back tyre was definitely not right, looked - and lo, it
was utterly flat.

Previous to that it'd waited till I'd got home (front) to go
flat, and was caused by [censored] rim tape letting the tube work
into a spoke hole.

Didn't take all that long to fix, and the plastic tyre
levers were fab. They came with my Topeak multitool thing.

I even discovered the reason why my back brakes had needed
adjusting (through being pants and not stopping me) a couple
of weeks earlier. The little levery bit to open them to get
wheel out had managed to get tweaked open some how... so
that had to be sorted out at the roadside too, before we
could get the wheel out!

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Captain's log. On StarDate Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:47:56 +0100 received comm from
"Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> on channel uk.rec.cycling:

: ...are rubbish. York was out yesterday because of all the
: heavy rain, as was

Not at all. Works perfectly here (used both Tacx and
Michelin for many years).

: After about 30 miles I got my first puncture on a road
: bike. Luckily it was in Hull and there was a nice bench
: nearby to sit on. I had my Lidl toolkit which included 3
: tyre levers, which turned out to be completely useless.
: They were far too bendy to take the tyre off, but as it
: turned out there was a screwdriver in the kit and I
: managed to get the tyre off with that.

As metal will possibly destroy your rim it's not any really
good choice. Get a good pair of QUALITY plastic ones and you
can't get anything better.

These Michelin Tyre Levers are the old classics who just
works and works:
wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.ukOpen ↗

Highly recommended!

Best regards,

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Quoted message said:

I've had few problems with plastic tyre levers...

A friend of mine shuns tyre levers all together. He manages
to take the slack out of the rest of the tyre to give enough
free to pull over the edge by hand. I challenged him to get
a tyre off that most people thought was difficult even with
levers. He got it off in about a minute! I've practised his
technique, but just can't get it :-(

Graeme

Simon Mason said:

...are rubbish.

Many are, I'll freely agree. Especially the ones that come
in noname puncture repair kits. But Park Tools plastic tyre
levers have taken everything I've thrown at them thus far,
and are IMHO Well Worth It.

Pete.
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:51:34 +0100, Peter Clinch
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Many are, I'll freely agree. Especially the ones that come
in noname puncture repair kits. But Park Tools plastic tyre
levers have taken everything I've thrown at them thus far,
and are IMHO Well Worth It.

I have a set of unbranded ones which came from Halfwits
decades ago - they work fine, even with Stelvios on
small rims.

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Call me Bob said:

Mike Dyason sells plastic tyre levers at 3 for a pound
(last time I looked), they are excellent.

Seconded.

~PB

Quoted message said:

A friend of mine shuns tyre levers all together. He manages to take the
slack out of the rest of the tyre to give enough free to pull over the edge
by hand. I challenged him to get a tyre off that most people thought was
difficult even with levers. He got it off in about a minute! I've practised
his technique, but just can't get it :-(

Graeme

I never carry tyre levers. There are very few tyre/rim
combinations that require levers.

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I never carry tyre levers. There are very few tyre/rim
combinations that require levers.

So come on then, what's the trick? Us mere mortals
need to know!

Graeme

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Headland (') said:

Quoted message said:

A friend of mine shuns tyre levers all together. He
manages to take the slack out of the rest of the tyre to
give enough free to pull over the edge by hand. I
challenged him to get a tyre off that most people
thought was difficult even with levers. He got it off in
about a minute! I've practised his technique, but just
can't get it :-(

Graeme

I never carry tyre levers. There are very few tyre/rim
combinations that require levers.

There may not be, but there are plenty of
tyre/rim/technician combinations that do, at least when I'm
the technician. I'll stick to levers.

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On 28 Jun 2004 18:26:17 -0700, [email hidden] (Peter Headland)

wrote in message : said:

I never carry tyre levers. There are very few tyre/rim
combinations that require levers.

I do because the "very few" happens to include the two bikes
I most commonly ride, and those which don't require levers
are often easier with, especially if you don't want to get
too grubby.

Guy
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Graeme said:

[email hidden] (Peter Headland) wrote in
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Quoted message said:

I never carry tyre levers. There are very few tyre/rim
combinations that require levers.

I wouldn't go that far.

Quoted message said:

So come on then, what's the trick? Us mere mortals need
to know!

Press both thumbs hard into tyre sidewall and force bead up
and back then ease off and let it pop outside the rim;
repeat with adjacent section if necessary then insert finger
to whip rest off. Works on the more looser-fitting tyre/rim
combinations.

~PB

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Quoted message said:

Captain's log. On StarDate Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:47:56 +0100
received comm from "Simon Mason"
<[email hidden]> on channel uk.rec.cycling:

: ...are rubbish. York was out yesterday because of all
: the heavy rain, as was

Not at all. Works perfectly here (used both Tacx and
Michelin for many years).

: After about 30 miles I got my first puncture on a road
: bike. Luckily it was in Hull and there was a nice bench
: nearby to sit on. I had my Lidl toolkit which included
: 3 tyre levers, which turned out to be completely
: useless. They were far too bendy to take the tyre off,
: but as it turned out there was a screwdriver in the kit
: and I managed to get the tyre off with that.

As metal will possibly destroy your rim it's not any
really good choice. Get a good pair of QUALITY plastic
ones and you can't get anything better.

These Michelin Tyre Levers are the old classics who just
works and works:
wiggle.co.ukwiggle.co.ukOpen ↗

Thanks - just ordered a set.

Simon