Pizza Stone that won't break?

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I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
so I need something that can stand up to real heat.

Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
wanna maka my pizza !

I suggest this pizza stone which I bought to use as a second pizza stone in
my oven - one on the top rack and one on the bottom rack. It seems close to
the one that I've owned and used for 20 years.

http://planetdelicious.com/products.php?product=PZ-15SQ

I think the price is more than reasonable and the delivery of it was prompt.
Dee

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I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
so I need something that can stand up to real heat.

Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
wanna maka my pizza !

A friend of mine works at BB&B and says that they'll take almost anything in
return. Just walk in with your receipt and ask.

I'm curious, though: When does it break? When you're preheating the oven?
During cooking? Please describe the exact sequence of events surrounding
your normal use of the thing.

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I'm curious, though: When does it break? When you're preheating the oven?

It broke during the pizza cooking process. Remember I'm at 550 degrees
and the stone just doesn't seem to take it. I did return it and got my
money back but I would rather have a pizza stone. Thanks

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Please describe the exact sequence of events surrounding your normal use of the thing.

I preheat the oven for 45 mins at 550 and then put my pizza on it.

Quoted message said:

I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
so I need something that can stand up to real heat.

Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
wanna maka my pizza !

For a few bucks you can buy a perforated pizza pan or a pizza screen,
they won't break and they actually work. Pizza stones do absolutely
nothing other than possibly destroy your home oven and absolutely void
the oven's warranty. Pizza stones are pure gimmickery, for separting
those with more dollars than brain cells from some of their dollars...
the only way to bake pizza (or anything) in a brick oven is to buy a
brick oven[period]

Sheldon

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I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
so I need something that can stand up to real heat.

Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
wanna maka my pizza !

You can line the lowest rack of your oven with 8" by 8" quarry tiles
(unglazed outdoor tiles available anywhere tile is old, e.g. Home Depot)
and bake pizza right on those. Cheap, heat-proof, hold heat as well as
any pizza stone.

--
Mr. Civility

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I'm curious, though: When does it break? When you're preheating the oven?

It broke during the pizza cooking process. Remember I'm at 550 degrees
and the stone just doesn't seem to take it. I did return it and got my
money back but I would rather have a pizza stone. Thanks

Go to this site:
www.cooksworld.com

It's connected with a really nice cooking store here in Rochester NY. Dig up
the phone number and give them a call. I bought mine there 10 years ago and
it's still working fine. I don't recall the brand. Whatever it is, this
place doesn't sell junk. Nice people, too.

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Please describe the exact sequence of events surrounding your normal use
of the thing.

I preheat the oven for 45 mins at 550 and then put my pizza on it.

It may not matter, but maybe it would help to preheat the oven, then put the
stone in to preheat. Most ovens maintain their temp with little blasts of
heat. But, starting from cold, the burner behavior is often quite different.

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I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
so I need something that can stand up to real heat.

Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
wanna maka my pizza !

For a few bucks you can buy a perforated pizza pan or a pizza screen,
they won't break and they actually work. Pizza stones do absolutely
nothing other than possibly destroy your home oven and absolutely void
the oven's warranty. Pizza stones are pure gimmickery, for separting
those with more dollars than brain cells from some of their dollars...
the only way to bake pizza (or anything) in a brick oven is to buy a
brick oven[period]

Sheldon

How do they destroy your oven, other than perhaps scratching the rack's
finish a bit?

<For a few bucks you can buy a perforated pizza pan or a pizza screen,

Are you saying it will make crispy pizza ?

Doug Kanter said:

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Quoted message said:

I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
so I need something that can stand up to real heat.

Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
wanna maka my pizza !

For a few bucks you can buy a perforated pizza pan or a pizza screen,
they won't break and they actually work. Pizza stones do absolutely
nothing other than possibly destroy your home oven and absolutely void
the oven's warranty. Pizza stones are pure gimmickery, for separting
those with more dollars than brain cells from some of their dollars...
the only way to bake pizza (or anything) in a brick oven is to buy a
brick oven[period]

Sheldon

How do they destroy your oven, other than perhaps scratching the rack's
finish a bit?

They interfere with the oven's natural convection, causing heat to
build unevenly, with hot spots beyond the oven's capability to to
withstand such temps, whereas metal will lose temper, weaken, and
buckle... cause thermostat misreading and/or actually damage thermostat
probes which will further exacerbate the aforementioned... every major
oven manufacturerer's Users Manual warns against use of pizza stones
and their ilk. The really sad thing is that folks actually believe the
stone becomes hotter than the oven's thermostat setting, NOT, in fact
the top surface of the stone will in most cases be at the coolest
temperature within the oven chamber. The best circumstance for
achieving the results of a real brick oven is to use a perforated pan
and if possible a convection oven. Placing a stone within an oven
chamber does NOT make it a functional part of the oven. When you want
brick oven baking there is only one way, with a real brick oven.

Sheldon

< the only way to bake pizza (or anything) in a brick oven is to buy a
brick oven[period]

whenever i see PERIOD I know there are other options ;-)

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The really sad thing is that folks actually believe the
stone becomes hotter than the oven's thermostat setting,

Jeez...that's enough to make a physics or chemistry teacher hang
himself.....I guess the concept of entropy is lost on the masses.

will the perforated tray really make crispy pizza ?

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will the perforated tray really make crispy pizza ?

You're asking the wrong guy. But, I'm sure somebody will chime in here
momentarily.

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How do they destroy your oven, other than perhaps scratching the rack's
finish a bit?

They interfere with the oven's natural convection, causing heat to
build unevenly, with hot spots beyond the oven's capability to to
withstand such temps, whereas metal will lose temper, weaken, and
buckle... cause thermostat misreading and/or actually damage thermostat
probes which will further exacerbate the aforementioned... every major
oven manufacturerer's Users Manual warns against use of pizza stones
and their ilk. snip
Sheldon

Wouldn't a cookie sheet, half sheet pan or large roasting pan interfere with
the oven's convection also? Many of these pans are far larger than a pizza
stone.
Janet

Sheldon said:

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> I bought the Bed Bath and Beyond pizza stone and it cracked after 3
> pizzas. I read on the net that many of them crack so I'm not getting
> another one. I see All Clad has a pizza stone for $99. I cook at 550
> so I need something that can stand up to real heat.
>
> Any ideas if there is a warranty or if it can take the heat? I just
> wanna maka my pizza !

For a few bucks you can buy a perforated pizza pan or a pizza screen,
they won't break and they actually work. Pizza stones do absolutely
nothing other than possibly destroy your home oven and absolutely void
the oven's warranty. Pizza stones are pure gimmickery, for separting
those with more dollars than brain cells from some of their dollars...
the only way to bake pizza (or anything) in a brick oven is to buy a
brick oven[period]

Sheldon

How do they destroy your oven, other than perhaps scratching the rack's
finish a bit?

They interfere with the oven's natural convection, causing heat to
build unevenly, with hot spots beyond the oven's capability to to
withstand such temps, whereas metal will lose temper, weaken, and
buckle... cause thermostat misreading and/or actually damage thermostat
probes which will further exacerbate the aforementioned... every major
oven manufacturerer's Users Manual warns against use of pizza stones
and their ilk. The really sad thing is that folks actually believe the
stone becomes hotter than the oven's thermostat setting, NOT, in fact
the top surface of the stone will in most cases be at the coolest
temperature within the oven chamber. The best circumstance for
achieving the results of a real brick oven is to use a perforated pan
and if possible a convection oven. Placing a stone within an oven
chamber does NOT make it a functional part of the oven. When you want
brick oven baking there is only one way, with a real brick oven.

Sheldon

1:Just checked my owners manual for a five year old,high end electric
range...no warning about pizza stines.
2: Ovens that are self cleaning by heat go up to temperatures of 800
degrees for many minutes when cleaning without damage to the oven.
3: Why would a pizza stone interfere with convection any more than a
large cookie sheet?

Janet Bostwick said:

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How do they destroy your oven, other than perhaps scratching the rack's
finish a bit?

They interfere with the oven's natural convection, causing heat to
build unevenly, with hot spots beyond the oven's capability to to
withstand such temps, whereas metal will lose temper, weaken, and
buckle... cause thermostat misreading and/or actually damage thermostat
probes which will further exacerbate the aforementioned... every major
oven manufacturerer's Users Manual warns against use of pizza stones
and their ilk. snip
Sheldon

Wouldn't a cookie sheet, half sheet pan or large roasting pan interfere with
the oven's convection also? Many of these pans are far larger than a pizza
stone.
Janet

Those interfere with convection too, and when too large for the
particular oven will result in poorly/unevenly baked food, but those
are not typically used at the highest temperature settings as would be
used with bread and especially pizza... it's when stones are used at
the highest temperature settings when oven damage will occur. Good
try. <g> You should know better... as long as you've been here, and
how often this very topic has been discussed, you should know me much
better than do the recent slew of newbies. Someone always asks the
same question. <G>

Btw, commercial bakeries more and more now use ulta-modern computerized
conveyor ovens, whereas baking is performed on perforated metal
panels/screens... brick ovens are dinosaurs and don't really bake
nearly as well as the myths folks perpetuate.

If you were a merchant who could buy stones for $3 and sell them for
$30 you'd exagerate their virtues too... this sort of marketing is
common... do you know how many wqoman have gone under the knife for
breast enlargement and paid many thousands of dollars when a far, far
better choice is stuffing a bra with a few cents worth of cotton
batting.

Sheldon

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<For a few bucks you can buy a perforated pizza pan or a pizza screen,

Are you saying it will make crispy pizza ?

To make a crispy pizza, all you need to do is mix 3 tablespoons flour with
1-2 tablespoons warm water. Add salt and pepper to the flour and mix well
to bind.
Roll this out to form an 8" circle. Put it in a dry frying pan over a high
heat for 1-2 minutes and it's ready for a topping of your own choice.
Jim.