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  1. and then crying about it.

    From CyclingNews: Catalan race delayed by riders' protest
    The final stage of the Setmana Catalana did not start on
    time Friday, as the 112 remaining riders held a two minute
    protest on the start line against the words of ex-
    professional Jesus Manzano, who has this week lifted the lid
    on alleged doping practices within the peloton. The majority
    of the riders signed a petition protesting Manzano's claims,
    as well as asking the Professional Cyclists Association to
    "restore the dignity of cycling."

    ----------------------------------------------------
    Kelme doesn't get a Tour invite and the riders hold a protest---
    of Manzano!

  2. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    and then crying about it.

    From CyclingNews: Catalan race delayed by riders' protest
    The final stage of the Setmana Catalana did not start on
    time Friday, as


    the

    Quoted message said:

    112 remaining riders held a two minute protest on the
    start line against


    the

    Quoted message said:

    words of ex-professional Jesus Manzano, who has this week
    lifted the lid


    on

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    alleged doping practices within the peloton. The majority
    of the riders signed a petition protesting Manzano's
    claims, as well as asking the Professional Cyclists
    Association to "restore the dignity of cycling."

    Won't they have to kick out all of the doping riders to
    accomplish this? Be careful what you ask for, I guess.

    Glenn D.

  3. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Kelme doesn't get a Tour invite and the riders hold a
    protest---of


    Manzano!

    Sure, they all ought to go along with Mazano and you and say
    that everyone is taking drugs. Lafferty you must have [censored]
    when Vaughters wrote that article saying that he would have
    cheated but his team wouldn't let him. That must have been
    like a stake right through your heart.

  4. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uV-
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    Kelme doesn't get a Tour invite and the riders hold a
    protest---of


    Manzano!

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    Sure, they all ought to go along with Mazano and you and
    say that everyone is taking drugs.

    Tom, do show me where I've ever said that "everyone" is
    taking drugs. You can't because that is your dishonest
    mischaracterization of my previous statements.

  5. You're on to something there. It just goes to show the
    "official" point of view of the pro peloton. Before you can
    solve a problem they've got to first be willing to admit it
    exists. Such a "protest" isn't a step in that direction. Who
    knows, maybe included in the peloton protestors were a few
    more future Manzano's. Would enough of them even make a
    difference?

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    and then crying about it.

    From CyclingNews: Catalan race delayed by riders' protest
    The final stage of the Setmana Catalana did not start on
    time Friday, as


    the

    Quoted message said:

    112 remaining riders held a two minute protest on the
    start line against


    the

    Quoted message said:

    words of ex-professional Jesus Manzano, who has this week
    lifted the lid


    on

    Quoted message said:

    alleged doping practices within the peloton. The majority
    of the riders signed a petition protesting Manzano's
    claims, as well as asking the Professional Cyclists
    Association to "restore the dignity of cycling."

    ----------------------------------------------------
    Kelme doesn't get a Tour invite and the riders hold a
    protest---of


    Manzano!

  6. "matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    You're on to something there. It just goes to show the
    "official" point


    of

    Quoted message said:

    view of the pro peloton. Before you can solve a problem
    they've got to


    first

    Quoted message said:

    be willing to admit it exists. Such a "protest" isn't a
    step in that direction. Who knows, maybe included in the
    peloton protestors were a few more future Manzano's. Would
    enough of them even make a difference?

    Psst - some tests that were run suggested that about 1/3rd
    of the peloton is using drugs. That's a lot, but when you
    figure that if you took 200 people off of the street in San
    Francisco, about that many would test positive for drugs as
    well that might put it a little bit into focus.

  7. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
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    Kelme doesn't get a Tour invite and the riders hold a
    protest---of


    Manzano!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sure, they all ought to go along with Mazano and you and
    say that


    everyone

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    is taking drugs.

    Tom, do show me where I've ever said that "everyone" is
    taking drugs. You can't because that is your dishonest
    mischaracterization of my previous statements.

    Please spare me the lawyerly chatter Brian. Every word you
    write on the subject implies that. Lance goes through
    chemotherapy and you continually make wisecracks that he's
    on some sort of drugs. The horror of cancer ain't enough
    apparently, he has to risk it all.

    I think that your hero is Lyle Azevedo.

  8. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news😄B-
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    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    .net...

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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message ne-
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    > Kelme doesn't get a Tour invite and the riders hold
    > a protest---of
    Manzano!

    all.

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    Sure, they all ought to go along with Mazano and you
    and say that


    everyone

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    is taking drugs.

    Tom, do show me where I've ever said that "everyone" is
    taking drugs.


    You

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    Quoted message said:

    can't because that is your dishonest mischaracterization
    of my previous statements.

    Please spare me the lawyerly chatter Brian. Every word you
    write on the subject implies that. Lance goes through
    chemotherapy and you continually make wisecracks that he's
    on some sort of drugs. The horror of cancer


    ain't

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    enough apparently, he has to risk it all.

    I think that your hero is Lyle Azevedo.

    "Plonk"

  9. Tom Kunich said:

    "matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c43v6b$tnf$1@news-
    reader3.wanadoo.fr...

    Quoted message said:

    You're on to something there. It just goes to show the
    "official" point


    of

    Quoted message said:

    view of the pro peloton. Before you can solve a problem
    they've got to


    first

    Quoted message said:

    be willing to admit it exists. Such a "protest" isn't a
    step in that direction. Who knows, maybe included in the
    peloton protestors were a few more future Manzano's.
    Would enough of them even make a difference?

    Psst - some tests that were run suggested that about 1/3rd
    of the peloton is using drugs. That's a lot, but when you
    figure that if you took 200 people off of the street in
    San Francisco, about that many would test positive for
    drugs as well that might put it a little bit into focus.

    That's pretty gratuitous. Where are your figures for San
    Francisco?

    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001
    dentaltwins.comdentaltwins.com

  10. Tom Kunich said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    Tom, do show me where I've ever said that "everyone" is
    taking drugs. You can't because that is your dishonest
    mischaracterization of my previous statements.

    Please spare me the lawyerly chatter Brian.

    Whatever it is, it isn't lawyerly chatter.

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