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  1. A respiratory therapist at my wife's work has volunteered time in the
    hurricane zone for the next three weeks. My wife agreed to take care of his
    dog until he comes back. It is some kind of exotic, long haired chihuahua
    named snookie.

    Snookie has had two big changes in his life in the last week. A long time
    human companion has left her house to go to a nursing home and his daddy
    went away. He is now with us. She is a charmer. Much calmer and quieter than
    most chihuahuas.

    The problem is that she doesn't want to go outside to [censored]. With some
    encouragement she will pee. But she insists on pooping in the house. And we
    don't want to get mad at her and encourage her to hide the [censored] either.

    When we trained our dog, we crate trained him. He spent time in his crate
    until he learned to pee and [censored] outside. We lavished praise on him whenever
    he went outside. He learned very quickly, if he wanted to spend time outside
    his crate, to go outside.

    She has a very nice, top of the line crate. I think a little crate training
    is in order. We have had her for three days now and are getting very tired
    of the [censored]. She did not do this at home.

    Any suggestion will be appreciated. I told my wife not to volunteer doggy
    sitting services again without a formal intro to the dog and a two day
    tryout period first.

  2. Lee Michaels said:

    A respiratory therapist at my wife's work has volunteered time in the
    hurricane zone for the next three weeks. My wife agreed to take care of his
    dog until he comes back. It is some kind of exotic, long haired chihuahua
    named snookie.

    Sounds cute.

    Quoted message said:

    Snookie has had two big changes in his life in the last week. A long time
    human companion has left her house to go to a nursing home and his daddy
    went away. He is now with us. She is a charmer. Much calmer and quieter than
    most chihuahuas.

    The problem is that she doesn't want to go outside to [censored]. With some
    encouragement she will pee. But she insists on pooping in the house. And we
    don't want to get mad at her and encourage her to hide the [censored] either.

    Don't get mad at her, or I'll have to call you Larry 🙂

    You have to find out how she was pooping before. Maybe she was paper
    trained, or even litter box trained, as some tiny breeds are. If she
    was pooping outside, then her refusal to do so now may be anxiety from
    the disturbances in her life, or something in your outside area that's
    bothering her. Get down to her level out there and look around. Try to
    get a feel for what she's seeing and smelling and hearing...there may
    be something that's scaring her that can be eliminated. Or let her go
    inside, but try to get her to go in a chosen spot...on paper, or maybe
    a bit of linoleum, or tile, etcetera. Leave a bit of her [censored] where you
    want her to give a repeat performance. Try to lead her there after
    eating, about a half hour after eating, after waking up.

    Don't punish her in any way. It won't work, and as you correctly point
    out, would encourage her to be a sneaky pooper.

    Quoted message said:


    When we trained our dog, we crate trained him. He spent time in his crate
    until he learned to pee and [censored] outside. We lavished praise on him whenever
    he went outside. He learned very quickly, if he wanted to spend time outside
    his crate, to go outside.

    All good, but this is a short term arrangement, so, such efforts would
    probably be a "waste" of time.

    Quoted message said:


    She has a very nice, top of the line crate. I think a little crate training
    is in order. We have had her for three days now and are getting very tired
    of the [censored]. She did not do this at home.

    It may just stress her out at this point in her life.

    Quoted message said:


    Any suggestion will be appreciated. I told my wife not to volunteer doggy
    sitting services again without a formal intro to the dog and a two day
    tryout period first.

    But, it was a nice thing to do, so you get points 🙂

    David

  3. "David Cohen" wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Lee Michaels said:

    A respiratory therapist at my wife's work has volunteered time in the
    hurricane zone for the next three weeks. My wife agreed to take care of
    his
    dog until he comes back. It is some kind of exotic, long haired
    chihuahua
    named snookie.

    Sounds cute.

    Quoted message said:

    Snookie has had two big changes in his life in the last week. A long time
    human companion has left her house to go to a nursing home and his daddy
    went away. He is now with us. She is a charmer. Much calmer and quieter
    than
    most chihuahuas.

    The problem is that she doesn't want to go outside to [censored]. With some
    encouragement she will pee. But she insists on pooping in the house. And
    we
    don't want to get mad at her and encourage her to hide the [censored] either.

    Don't get mad at her, or I'll have to call you Larry 🙂

    You have to find out how she was pooping before. Maybe she was paper
    trained, or even litter box trained, as some tiny breeds are. If she
    was pooping outside, then her refusal to do so now may be anxiety from
    the disturbances in her life, or something in your outside area that's
    bothering her. Get down to her level out there and look around. Try to
    get a feel for what she's seeing and smelling and hearing...there may
    be something that's scaring her that can be eliminated. Or let her go
    inside, but try to get her to go in a chosen spot...on paper, or maybe
    a bit of linoleum, or tile, etcetera. Leave a bit of her [censored] where you
    want her to give a repeat performance. Try to lead her there after
    eating, about a half hour after eating, after waking up.

    Don't punish her in any way. It won't work, and as you correctly point
    out, would encourage her to be a sneaky pooper.

    Quoted message said:


    When we trained our dog, we crate trained him. He spent time in his crate
    until he learned to pee and [censored] outside. We lavished praise on him
    whenever
    he went outside. He learned very quickly, if he wanted to spend time
    outside
    his crate, to go outside.

    All good, but this is a short term arrangement, so, such efforts would
    probably be a "waste" of time.

    Quoted message said:


    She has a very nice, top of the line crate. I think a little crate
    training
    is in order. We have had her for three days now and are getting very
    tired
    of the [censored]. She did not do this at home.

    It may just stress her out at this point in her life.

    Quoted message said:


    Any suggestion will be appreciated. I told my wife not to volunteer
    doggy
    sitting services again without a formal intro to the dog and a two day
    tryout period first.

    But, it was a nice thing to do, so you get points 🙂


    We put her in the crate this morning awhile and brought her outside. She
    pooped outside. I like the suggestion of trying to have her do it in one
    place.

    And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which is a
    mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least three
    times her size, This cat will take on anything in the neighborhood. Why
    should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?

    Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.

  4. "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which is a
    mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least three
    times her size, This cat will take on anything in the neighborhood. Why
    should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?

    Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a few grams?

    Quoted message said:

    Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.

    Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather than
    strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get away any
    time it wants.

    Got any jpegs of the pup?

    David

  5. David Cohen said:

    Got any jpegs of the pup?

    I knew a beastilaity question was just around the corner. I bet you
    want to see the pup NAKED too, don't you?
    TBR

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
    more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
    the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
    White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
    "Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
    but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

  6. "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A respiratory therapist at my wife's work has volunteered time in the
    hurricane zone for the next three weeks. My wife agreed to take care of
    his dog until he comes back. It is some kind of exotic, long haired
    chihuahua named snookie.

    Snookie has had two big changes in his life in the last week. A long
    time human companion has left her house to go to a nursing home and
    his daddy went away. He is now with us. She is a charmer. Much calmer
    and quieter than most chihuahuas.

    The problem is that she doesn't want to go outside to [censored]. With some
    encouragement she will pee. But she insists on pooping in the house.
    And we don't want to get mad at her and encourage her to hide the [censored]
    either.

    When we trained our dog, we crate trained him. He spent time in his
    crate until he learned to pee and [censored] outside. We lavished praise on
    him whenever he went outside. He learned very quickly, if he wanted to
    spend time outside his crate, to go outside.

    She has a very nice, top of the line crate. I think a little crate
    training is in order. We have had her for three days now and are
    getting very tired of the [censored]. She did not do this at home.

    Any suggestion will be appreciated. I told my wife not to volunteer
    doggy sitting services again without a formal intro to the dog and a
    two day tryout period first.

    If you'll forgive a former cat owner chiming in, we had a cat who well
    knew how to use the litter box. She pooped everywhere but the litter
    box if we went away overnight. When we came home, she used her little
    box again. Sounds like the dog is complaining about missing its owner.
    For a cat, at least, there really wasn't anything we could do about it
    because it seemed quite the "conscious act" and, well, you know how cats
    are. Didn't matter if we had someone house-sitting, either - same
    behavior.

    A few years ago, the cat died of old age (18-1/2, a good and long life)
    and we got new rugs. We miss her but our rugs do not.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  7. "Steve Freides" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    A respiratory therapist at my wife's work has volunteered time in the
    hurricane zone for the next three weeks. My wife agreed to take care of
    his dog until he comes back. It is some kind of exotic, long haired
    chihuahua named snookie.

    Snookie has had two big changes in his life in the last week. A long time
    human companion has left her house to go to a nursing home and his daddy
    went away. He is now with us. She is a charmer. Much calmer and quieter
    than most chihuahuas.

    The problem is that she doesn't want to go outside to [censored]. With some
    encouragement she will pee. But she insists on pooping in the house. And
    we don't want to get mad at her and encourage her to hide the [censored]
    either.

    When we trained our dog, we crate trained him. He spent time in his crate
    until he learned to pee and [censored] outside. We lavished praise on him
    whenever he went outside. He learned very quickly, if he wanted to spend
    time outside his crate, to go outside.

    She has a very nice, top of the line crate. I think a little crate
    training is in order. We have had her for three days now and are getting
    very tired of the [censored]. She did not do this at home.

    Any suggestion will be appreciated. I told my wife not to volunteer
    doggy sitting services again without a formal intro to the dog and a two
    day tryout period first.

    If you'll forgive a former cat owner chiming in, we had a cat who well
    knew how to use the litter box. She pooped everywhere but the litter box
    if we went away overnight. When we came home, she used her little box
    again. Sounds like the dog is complaining about missing its owner.

    No, the dog is not. Dogs do not consider [censored] and pee to be adversive. Ever
    notice how much they like to roll around in the stuff? While it is
    questionable even whether dogs would "act out" to express missing of owners,
    if they did, they would pick something to do that they themselvs considered
    adversive, like destroying something that belongs to and is associated with
    the person against whom they are acting out.

    Quoted message said:

    For a cat, at least, there really wasn't anything we could do about it
    because it seemed quite the "conscious act" and, well, you know how cats
    are. Didn't matter if we had someone house-sitting, either - same
    behavior.

    The biggest mistake pet ...dogs, cats, horses, pigs, iguanas, you name
    it...owners make is anthropomorphism, the attributing of human emotions to
    non-humans. The pets suffer the consequences, which are sometimes fatal.

    Quoted message said:


    A few years ago, the cat died of old age (18-1/2, a good and long life)
    and we got new rugs. We miss her but our rugs do not.

    And you'd happily get another set of rugs, to have her back with you.

    Sheba is a lick-happy dog. Licks and licks. Almost obsessive. And whenever I
    start to get annoyed at being overly licked, I think about the first day,
    some day, when there won't be any more licks. And my annoyance disappears.

    David

  8. "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which is a
    mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least three
    times her size, This cat will take on anything in the neighborhood. Why
    should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?

    Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a few grams?

    I always wondered about that. My wife is one of those people who has this
    irrational fear. She just freaks when she sees a spider and commands me to
    kill it. I always kid her afterwards and ask if anything else needs killin".

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.

    Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather than
    strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get away any
    time it wants.


    My wife made the point that the cat has a personality that gets offended
    easily. Ya know, royalty, And we are lousy servants. And that the dog
    really offended her by not backing down. And she has hurt feelings. That
    may be it. Like many cats, she does tend to be arrogant.

    But it is pretty amazing. She is a mixed breed with a little siamese in her.
    Really pretty. And there are full size dogs in the neighborhood who are
    afraid of her. Most cats are too. There are about two or three cats that she
    is afraid of.

    But little Snookie has her running.

    Quoted message said:

    Got any jpegs of the pup?


    Sorry, I do not.

  9. "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Sheba is a lick-happy dog. Licks and licks. Almost obsessive. And whenever
    I start to get annoyed at being overly licked, I think about the first
    day, some day, when there won't be any more licks. And my annoyance
    disappears.


    Word.

    Bernie, our regular dog is also lick happy. Just to me, not my wife.

    But getting another dog in here has really driven the point home how well
    behaved and loving he is. He may be a pain in the ass from time to time.
    But life is much better with him than without.

  10. "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which is a
    mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least three
    times her size, This cat will take on anything in the neighborhood. Why
    should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?

    Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a few


    grams?

    Quoted message said:


    I always wondered about that. My wife is one of those people who has this
    irrational fear. She just freaks when she sees a spider and commands me


    to

    Quoted message said:

    kill it. I always kid her afterwards and ask if anything else needs


    killin".

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.

    Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather than
    strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get away


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time it wants.


    My wife made the point that the cat has a personality that gets offended
    easily. Ya know, royalty, And we are lousy servants. And that the dog
    really offended her by not backing down. And she has hurt feelings. That
    may be it. Like many cats, she does tend to be arrogant.

    But it is pretty amazing. She is a mixed breed with a little siamese in


    her.

    Quoted message said:

    Really pretty. And there are full size dogs in the neighborhood who are
    afraid of her. Most cats are too. There are about two or three cats that


    she

    Quoted message said:

    is afraid of.

    But little Snookie has her running.

    Quoted message said:

    Got any jpegs of the pup?


    Sorry, I do not.


    I hate cats

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which is a
    > mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least three
    > times her size, This cat will take on anything in the neighborhood. Why
    > should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?

    Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a few


    grams?

    Quoted message said:


    I always wondered about that. My wife is one of those people who has this
    irrational fear. She just freaks when she sees a spider and commands me


    to

    Quoted message said:

    kill it. I always kid her afterwards and ask if anything else needs


    killin".

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    > Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.

    Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather than
    strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get away


    any

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time it wants.


    My wife made the point that the cat has a personality that gets offended
    easily. Ya know, royalty, And we are lousy servants. And that the dog
    really offended her by not backing down. And she has hurt feelings. That
    may be it. Like many cats, she does tend to be arrogant.

    But it is pretty amazing. She is a mixed breed with a little siamese in


    her.

    Quoted message said:

    Really pretty. And there are full size dogs in the neighborhood who are
    afraid of her. Most cats are too. There are about two or three cats that


    she

    Quoted message said:

    is afraid of.

    But little Snookie has her running.

    Quoted message said:

    Got any jpegs of the pup?


    Sorry, I do not.


    I hate cats

    Most people that hate cats are control freaks. ;-)
    Do you qualify?

    I love all animals. Pet birds are even more independant than cats.

    Why do you hate cats?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  12. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Why do you hate cats?

    Men who are secretly gay hate cats.
    TBR

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
    more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
    the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
    White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
    "Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
    but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

  13. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote
    >
    > "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote
    >> And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which is


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least


    three

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> times her size, This cat will take on anything in the neighborhood.


    Why

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?
    >
    > Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a few


    grams?

    Quoted message said:


    I always wondered about that. My wife is one of those people who has


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    irrational fear. She just freaks when she sees a spider and commands


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    kill it. I always kid her afterwards and ask if anything else needs


    killin".

    Quoted message said:


    >
    >> Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.
    >
    > Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather


    than

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get


    away

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    any

    Quoted message said:

    > time it wants.
    >
    My wife made the point that the cat has a personality that gets


    offended

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    easily. Ya know, royalty, And we are lousy servants. And that the dog
    really offended her by not backing down. And she has hurt feelings.


    That

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    may be it. Like many cats, she does tend to be arrogant.

    But it is pretty amazing. She is a mixed breed with a little siamese


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her.

    Quoted message said:

    Really pretty. And there are full size dogs in the neighborhood who


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    afraid of her. Most cats are too. There are about two or three cats


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    she

    Quoted message said:

    is afraid of.

    But little Snookie has her running.

    > Got any jpegs of the pup?
    >
    Sorry, I do not.


    I hate cats

    Most people that hate cats are control freaks. ;-)
    Do you qualify?

    I love all animals. Pet birds are even more independant than cats.

    Why do you hate cats?

    I think it's something about their arrogance . . . and they don't wag their
    tails. However I hate crows more. I had a murder of crows at my shed the
    other day and they wrecked 4 screen doors within half an hour. Crows are
    tough customers.

  14. "The Bill Rodgers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Why do you hate cats?

    Men who are secretly gay hate cats.

    Thanks Bill. Thanks a lot. (you call me a doughnut puncher once more and
    I'll come over there and hit you with my purse)

  15. "David" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    David said:

    "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > > "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > >> And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which
    > >> is


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at least


    three

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> times her size, This cat will take on anything in the
    > >> neighborhood.


    Why

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?
    > >
    > > Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a few
    grams?
    >
    > I always wondered about that. My wife is one of those people who has


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > irrational fear. She just freaks when she sees a spider and commands


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to
    > kill it. I always kid her afterwards and ask if anything else needs
    killin".
    >
    > >
    > >> Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.
    > >
    > > Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather


    than

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get


    away

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    any
    > > time it wants.
    > >
    > My wife made the point that the cat has a personality that gets


    offended

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > easily. Ya know, royalty, And we are lousy servants. And that the
    > dog
    > really offended her by not backing down. And she has hurt feelings.


    That

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > may be it. Like many cats, she does tend to be arrogant.
    >
    > But it is pretty amazing. She is a mixed breed with a little siamese


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her.
    > Really pretty. And there are full size dogs in the neighborhood who


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > afraid of her. Most cats are too. There are about two or three cats


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    she
    > is afraid of.
    >
    > But little Snookie has her running.
    >
    > > Got any jpegs of the pup?
    > >
    > Sorry, I do not.
    >
    >
    I hate cats

    Most people that hate cats are control freaks. ;-)
    Do you qualify?

    I love all animals. Pet birds are even more independant than cats.

    Why do you hate cats?

    I think it's something about their arrogance . . . and they don't wag
    their
    tails. However I hate crows more. I had a murder of crows at my shed the
    other day and they wrecked 4 screen doors within half an hour. Crows are
    tough customers.

    Gee, you sure do hate a lot of things 🙁

    There are some specific people, and some specific groups of people, that I
    hate. Other than that, I'm just a big cuddly lover.

    David

  16. On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:34:54 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    However I hate crows more. I had a murder of crows at my shed the
    other day and they wrecked 4 screen doors within half an hour. Crows are
    tough customers.

    Another f*ing pansie, afraid of a tweety bird.
    TBR

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
    more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
    the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
    White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
    "Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
    but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

  17. On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:53:30 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Bill. Thanks a lot. (you call me a doughnut puncher once more and
    I'll come over there and hit you with my purse)

    Gotcha (you donutpincher)
    TBR

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
    more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
    the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
    White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
    "Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
    but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

  18. "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "David" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "David" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > > "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > > > "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > > >> And another thing she is doing now is terrorizing the cat. Which
    > > >> is


    a

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    > > >> mystery to me. Because this is one tough, big cat who is at


    least

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    three

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    > > >> times her size, This cat will take on anything in the
    > > >> neighborhood.


    Why

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    > > >> should she be afraid of a dog much smaller than her?
    > > >
    > > > Why should a 200 pound person be afraid of a spider weighing a


    few

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > grams?
    > >
    > > I always wondered about that. My wife is one of those people who


    has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    this

    Quoted message said:

    > > irrational fear. She just freaks when she sees a spider and


    commands

    Quoted message said:
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    me

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    > to
    > > kill it. I always kid her afterwards and ask if anything else needs
    > killin".
    > >
    > > >
    > > >> Any suggestions? For the cat or the dog.
    > > >
    > > > Terrorizing is more a reflection of force of personality, rather


    than

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    > > > strength or size. Let the little dog do his best. The cat can get


    away

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    > any
    > > > time it wants.
    > > >
    > > My wife made the point that the cat has a personality that gets


    offended

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    > > easily. Ya know, royalty, And we are lousy servants. And that the
    > > dog
    > > really offended her by not backing down. And she has hurt feelings.


    That

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    > > may be it. Like many cats, she does tend to be arrogant.
    > >
    > > But it is pretty amazing. She is a mixed breed with a little


    siamese

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    in

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    > her.
    > > Really pretty. And there are full size dogs in the neighborhood who


    are

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    > > afraid of her. Most cats are too. There are about two or three cats


    that

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    > she
    > > is afraid of.
    > >
    > > But little Snookie has her running.
    > >
    > > > Got any jpegs of the pup?
    > > >
    > > Sorry, I do not.
    > >
    > >
    > I hate cats

    Most people that hate cats are control freaks. ;-)
    Do you qualify?

    I love all animals. Pet birds are even more independant than cats.

    Why do you hate cats?

    I think it's something about their arrogance . . . and they don't wag
    their
    tails. However I hate crows more. I had a murder of crows at my shed the
    other day and they wrecked 4 screen doors within half an hour. Crows are
    tough customers.

    Gee, you sure do hate a lot of things 🙁

    There are some specific people, and some specific groups of people, that I
    hate. Other than that, I'm just a big cuddly lover.

    David

    I hate clouds as well

  19. "The Bill Rodgers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:53:30 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Bill. Thanks a lot. (you call me a doughnut puncher once more and
    I'll come over there and hit you with my purse)

    Gotcha (you donutpincher)

    I don't respond to trolls, Bill - particularly [censored] trolls

  20. On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:00:04 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I don't respond to trolls, Bill - particularly [censored] trolls

    Luckily I'm a bi-troll, so it's ok.
    TBR

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
    more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
    the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
    White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
    H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
    "Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
    but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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