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  1. Welcome to the group! I know posting to usenet with webtv isn't easy,
    but you've avoided a lot of webbie pitfalls like posting in all caps
    and posting with an HTML sig line.... so you're ahead of the curve.

    I wanted to let you know that I'm finding your posts hard to read
    because previous quotes aren't attributed with > marks and there is no
    spacing between the quoted text and your reply. I think quoting with
    a right angle bracket ...>... is called "smallify" in webtv talk.
    Hopefully there are other webtv posters here who can jump in and tell
    you how to do it.

    The following might point you in the right direction although it
    sounds very tedious
    http://new2html.web-nuts.com/Smalify.shtml
    http://community-2.webtv.net/mollorra/CCPplusQuotedText/page2.html

    These look like web based programs to make smallifying easier
    http://www.angelfire.com/mt/jdhardball/smallifier.html
    http://www.geocities.com/seedytheteck/wtvts2/smallify1.html

    and just for fun
    http://www.geocities.com/seedytheteck/links/4-wtv.html

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  2. sf said:

    I wanted to let you know that I'm finding your posts hard to read
    because previous quotes aren't attributed with > marks and there is no
    spacing between the quoted text and your reply. I think quoting with
    a right angle bracket ...>... is called "smallify" in webtv talk.

    Any idea why the use of proper quote indicators would be called
    "smallify" in WebTV talk?

    Quoted message said:

    Hopefully there are other webtv posters here who can jump in and tell
    you how to do it.

    Hee hee. See my X-WebTV-Stationery header. 🙂

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  3. On 16 Jun 2007 20:26:00 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:

    I wanted to let you know that I'm finding your posts hard to read
    because previous quotes aren't attributed with > marks and there is no
    spacing between the quoted text and your reply. I think quoting with
    a right angle bracket ...>... is called "smallify" in webtv talk.

    Any idea why the use of proper quote indicators would be called
    "smallify" in WebTV talk?

    I have absolutely NO idea.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Hopefully there are other webtv posters here who can jump in and tell
    you how to do it.

    Hee hee. See my X-WebTV-Stationery header. 🙂

    OK, you're nominated! Thank you for volunteering to man our rfc webtv
    help desk. LOL!

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  4. Blinky the Shark said:

    Hee hee. See my X-WebTV-Stationery header. 🙂

    Stolen. Thanks.

    -sw

  5. sf said:

    On 16 Jun 2007 20:26:00 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:

    I wanted to let you know that I'm finding your posts hard to read
    because previous quotes aren't attributed with > marks and there is
    no spacing between the quoted text and your reply. I think quoting
    with a right angle bracket ...>... is called "smallify" in webtv
    talk.

    Any idea why the use of proper quote indicators would be called
    "smallify" in WebTV talk?

    I have absolutely NO idea.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Hopefully there are other webtv posters here who can jump in and
    tell you how to do it.

    Hee hee. See my X-WebTV-Stationery header. 🙂

    OK, you're nominated! Thank you for volunteering to man our rfc webtv
    help desk. LOL!

    My pleasure! Enjoy the ride.

    To me WebTVers are a species even less evolved than Google Gropers. 🙂

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  6. Blinky the Shark said:

    Any idea why the use of proper quote indicators would be called
    "smallify" in WebTV talk?

    Dunno...WebTV has no quote text editor, you have to put the ">"'s in
    manually...

    I used WebTV for three years back in the day (starting in '98) it was
    always called that...

    I pretty quickly discovered free Usenet services like Remarq and Deja,
    so I didn't have to deal with the ghastly WebTV "newsreader"...

    Dunno why WebTV still has Usenet capability, there are still some
    older boxes around that have it. The newer WebTV box, known as
    "MSNTV" has no Usenet capability at all...even the MSN ISP dropped
    Usenet years ago, strange.

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    Greg

  7. On 17 Jun 2007 05:47:26 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:

    On 16 Jun 2007 20:26:00 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Hee hee. See my X-WebTV-Stationery header. 🙂

    OK, you're nominated! Thank you for volunteering to man our rfc webtv
    help desk. LOL!

    My pleasure! Enjoy the ride.

    To me WebTVers are a species even less evolved than Google Gropers. 🙂

    I think it's their tools, Blinky.... really, when you have to use an
    off site program to quote properly, it's *not* entirely their fault
    and it's certainly not easy. My hat is off to WebTVers who blend in.

    Google has it's own set of problems. For one, they need to bring back
    the "tree" so threads can be easily followed. Another feature they
    need to add is the ability to filter out titles, authors and key
    words.

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  8. sf said:

    On 17 Jun 2007 05:47:26 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:

    On 16 Jun 2007 20:26:00 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >
    >Hee hee. See my X-WebTV-Stationery header. 🙂

    OK, you're nominated! Thank you for volunteering to man our rfc webtv
    help desk. LOL!

    My pleasure! Enjoy the ride.

    To me WebTVers are a species even less evolved than Google Gropers. 🙂

    I think it's their tools, Blinky.... really, when you have to use an
    off site program to quote properly, it's *not* entirely their fault
    and it's certainly not easy. My hat is off to WebTVers who blend in.

    Google has it's own set of problems. For one, they need to bring back
    the "tree" so threads can be easily followed. Another feature they
    need to add is the ability to filter out titles, authors and key
    words.

    And:

    3. Remove the ability to post through the interface. That's where the
    troubles began.

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  9. sf said:

    Google has it's own set of problems. For one, they need to bring back
    the "tree" so threads can be easily followed. Another feature they
    need to add is the ability to filter out titles, authors and key
    words.

    You mean like this:
    <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/64a3439c8329feff/c5d5a52eeefc63e2?tvc=1#c5d5a52eeefc63e2>

    Look at "Options" at the end of the line after the Subject (in
    gray)

    -sw

  10. Steve Wertz said:
    sf said:

    Google has it's own set of problems. For one, they need to bring back
    the "tree" so threads can be easily followed. Another feature they
    need to add is the ability to filter out titles, authors and key
    words.

    You mean like this:
    <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_frm/thread/64a3439c8329feff/c5d5a52eeefc63e2?tvc=1#c5d5a52eeefc63e2>

    Look at "Options" at the end of the line after the Subject (in
    gray)


    Thanks for showing it can be done... but I need to be hit over the
    head with the method. On both of my browsers, there is nothing
    directly across from the subject line. I see "hide options" above,
    not an option for a "tree". So, what do they call it? This is what I
    see "Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual
    message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by
    this author"

    🙂

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  11. sf said:

    Thanks for showing it can be done... but I need to be hit over the
    head with the method. On both of my browsers, there is nothing
    directly across from the subject line.

    I went to the main RFC page, clicked on "Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:
    smallify text" in the right hand column under "Active older topics"
    which took me to the message page. At the top of the message
    page, I see:

    "Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re: smallify text" Options ["Options" is
    underscored]

    Click on "Options" and you should see "View as tree". You need
    to select "Options" at the top of the page, not "more options" at the
    top of an individual message.

  12. KevinS said:
    sf said:

    Thanks for showing it can be done... but I need to be hit over the
    head with the method. On both of my browsers, there is nothing
    directly across from the subject line.

    I went to the main RFC page, clicked on "Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:
    smallify text" in the right hand column under "Active older topics"
    which took me to the message page. At the top of the message
    page, I see:

    "Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re: smallify text" Options ["Options" is
    underscored]

    Click on "Options" and you should see "View as tree". You need
    to select "Options" at the top of the page, not "more options" at the
    top of an individual message.

    The lamest port of this is that it appears you have to re-select
    this option for each and every thread you view. The option
    doesn't stick between threads.

    -sw

  13. Steve Wertz said:

    The lamest port of this is that it appears you have to re-select
    this option for each and every thread you view. The option
    doesn't stick between threads.

    -sw

    Hmm..that is odd.

    For me, it stays as a tree with any thread I view. Not sure if I did
    anything different than you did though.

    Christine

  14. Christine Dabney said:
    Steve Wertz said:

    The lamest port of this is that it appears you have to re-select
    this option for each and every thread you view. The option
    doesn't stick between threads.

    -sw

    Hmm..that is odd.

    For me, it stays as a tree with any thread I view. Not sure if I did
    anything different than you did though.

    Maybe because I forbid Google setting cookies on my machine.
    Evil.

    -sw

  15. KevinS said:
    sf said:

    Thanks for showing it can be done... but I need to be hit over the
    head with the method. On both of my browsers, there is nothing
    directly across from the subject line.

    I went to the main RFC page, clicked on "Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:
    smallify text" in the right hand column under "Active older topics"
    which took me to the message page. At the top of the message
    page, I see:

    "Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re: smallify text" Options ["Options" is
    underscored]

    Click on "Options" and you should see "View as tree". You need
    to select "Options" at the top of the page, not "more options" at the
    top of an individual message.


    Thanks Kevin (and thanks Steve).... I get it now!
    It's at the very top - in the *dark* gray area.

    <shaking cobwebs out of head>

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  16. Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:smallify text

    Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2007, 9:45am (EDT-3) From: sf

    Quoted message said:

    I wanted to let you know that I'm finding your posts hard to read


    because previous quotes aren't attributed with > marks and there is no
    spacing between the quoted text and your reply.>
    *
    *
    *
    *
    How is this?I enlarged the text and skipped 4 spaces.Did,nt know that <
    meant to smallify.Just put it in because I saw it done in other places.
    Cheers .Smitty

  17. (J S) said:


    Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:smallify text

    Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2007, 9:45am (EDT-3) From: sf

    Quoted message said:

    I wanted to let you know that I'm finding your posts hard to read


    because previous quotes aren't attributed with > marks and there is no
    spacing between the quoted text and your reply.>
    *
    *
    *
    *
    How is this?I enlarged the text and skipped 4 spaces.Did,nt know that <
    meant to smallify.Just put it in because I saw it done in other places.
    Cheers .Smitty

    Much better Smitty.... my newsreader didn't translate the larger text,
    but that break makes it a lot easier to read. Did you look at either
    of the two sites that smaillify text for you? The > is an attribution
    mark. Take the number of > in front of the text and minus one at the
    address so you can tell who said what.

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  18. Re: Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:smallify text

    Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Mon, Jun 18, 2007, 10:55am (EDT-3) From:
    sf

    "Much better Smitty.... my newsreader didn't translate the larger text,
    but that break makes it a lot easier to read. Did you look at either of
    the two sites that smaillify text for you?"
    *
    *
    *
    *
    Yes I did ,kind of complicated but will work on it.Was floored to find
    out this also shows up on Google Groups.Never signed up for google
    groups,just post thru the webtv home page where it says 'discuss',then
    did a search for 'food' groups.
    I have an older 'classic' box that I bought in 1998 at Big Lots for
    $59.00,mainly to email my family.I liked it because it served my
    perpose,got free upgrades,and didnt want to shell out $2000 dollars for
    a computer just to send email.The new MSNTV Ive heard is hell to a lot
    of users.My old set works fine.Ive done some nice webpages for
    friends..very happy with it.AOL screws up a lot when people send me
    photos(comes up blank) and various other browsers..Im computer -deprived
    you might say.
    Thanks for understanding
    Cheers,Smitty

  19. (J S) said:

    Yes I did , kind of complicated but will work on it.


    <snip>

    I think the last site is the easiest!
    http://www.geocities.com/seedytheteck/wtvts2/smallify1.html

    Type your reply into your newsreader, previous quotes and all
    (trimming as necessary)... copy and paste it into the site, so when
    you click "smallify" the quoted text will also get another >. Or
    maybe you can't copy and paste. I'm not familiar enough with webtv to
    know. If you don't have a mouse, the keyboard strokes are
    copy: ctrl c
    paste: ctrl v

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  20. rhis is what I ended up with...seems more complicated:I know how to copy
    and paste.dont have a mouse.

    Quoted message said:

    Re: Ping: Smitty AKA: JS re:smallify text
    Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Mon, Jun 18, 2007, 12:39pm (EDT-3) From:
    sf
    On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:54:09 -0400, [email hidden] (J S)
    wrote:
    Yes I did , kind of complicated but will work
    on it. <snip>
    I think the last site is the easiest!
    http://www.geocities.com/seedytheteck/wtvts2/smallify1.html
    Type your reply into your newsreader, previous quotes and all
    (trimming as necessary)... copy and paste it into the site,
    so when you click "smallify" the quoted text will also
    get another >.   Or maybe you can't copy and
    paste. I'm not familiar enough with webtv to know. If
    you don't have a mouse, the keyboard strokes are copy:
    ctrl c paste: ctrl v
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    Im trying it now

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