Ping :-Polar Buff owners

soup said:

Asking in here as a few cyclists have said they wear buffs and polar
buffs.
Son has just came back from a week away skiing and he must have worn
his buff everyday and then stuffed it into a wee bag to come home
because it is stinking. Had a quick look on the 'net and there it said
PBs could be machine washed at 40 °C and tumble dried at low, any
obvious gotchas I should look for or will I just go with this

IME almost all outdoor fabrics can be washed at 50. They'll drip dry in
no time if you want.

I really don't believe the "it'll be irreversibly damaged if it is
washed at more than 40" crowd when normal environmental temperatures
can easily exceed that.

Fancy finishes on fashion garments excepted, all my daily washing gets
done at 50 (and much at 60) with the exception of wool.

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soup said:

Asking in here as a few cyclists have said they wear buffs and polar
buffs.
Son has just came back from a week away skiing and he must have worn
his buff everyday and then stuffed it into a wee bag to come home
because it is stinking. Had a quick look on the 'net and there it said
PBs could be machine washed at 40 °C and tumble dried at low, any
obvious gotchas I should look for or will I just go with this

go with it! Mine gets done several times a week at this time of the year.
General wash at 40C then a tumble or over the radiator.

pk

p.k. said:

General wash at 40C then a tumble or over the radiator.

Everybody's gotta have a hobby.
--

Martin Bulmer

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Quoted message said:

Asking in here as a few cyclists have said they wear buffs and polar
buffs.
Son has just came back from a week away skiing and he must have worn
his buff everyday and then stuffed it into a wee bag to come home
because it is stinking. Had a quick look on the 'net and there it said
PBs could be machine washed at 40 °C and tumble dried at low, any
obvious gotchas I should look for or will I just go with this

Mine regularly gets chucked in with the other cycling kit, washed at 40C,
with Ecover and then tumble dried.

Cheers, helen s

soup said:

Son has just came back from a week away skiing and he must have worn
his buff everyday and then stuffed it into a wee bag to come home
because it is stinking. Had a quick look on the 'net and there it said
PBs could be machine washed at 40 °C and tumble dried at low, any
obvious gotchas I should look for or will I just go with this

Ours just get chucked in the machine at whatever temperature Zanussi
think is the standard for "synthetics". Never done them any obvious harm.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

David Martin said:

IME almost all outdoor fabrics can be washed at 50. They'll drip dry
in no time if you want.

I really don't believe the "it'll be irreversibly damaged if it is
washed at more than 40" crowd when normal environmental temperatures
can easily exceed that.

Fancy finishes on fashion garments excepted, all my daily washing gets
done at 50 (and much at 60) with the exception of wool.

I agree that 50 won't harm most garments -- after all it barely feels warm
when hand washing at that temperature -- but why bother when 40 does the
job more cheaply (and quickly if the machine has to heat the water)?

~PB

Pete Biggs said:

David Martin said:

IME almost all outdoor fabrics can be washed at 50. They'll drip dry
in no time if you want.

I really don't believe the "it'll be irreversibly damaged if it is
washed at more than 40" crowd when normal environmental temperatures
can easily exceed that.

Fancy finishes on fashion garments excepted, all my daily washing gets
done at 50 (and much at 60) with the exception of wool.

I agree that 50 won't harm most garments -- after all it barely feels warm
when hand washing at that temperature -- but why bother when 40 does the
job more cheaply (and quickly if the machine has to heat the water)?

At 40 you do not kill the microorganisms in the clothes. At 50 you have
at least a fighting chance of getting rid of some. At 60 you get rid of
most. A boil wash for cotton sheets is there to sterilise, not to
clean.

I try to was clothes on as hot as they will take. Do you really want to
provide a nice warm wet environment for all the stuff in the SKOG you
have just ridden through to breed and grow? Organisms that thrive
inside animals and are excreted into SKOG (50% by weight of faeces) are
going to love 40C.

...d

David Martin said:

I try to was clothes on as hot as they will take. Do you really want to
provide a nice warm wet environment for all the stuff in the SKOG you
have just ridden through to breed and grow? Organisms that thrive
inside animals and are excreted into SKOG (50% by weight of faeces) are
going to love 40C.

Yes, it strengthens the immune system. There is increasing evidence
that our fixation on cleanliness is causing all sorts of problems
because the body is not learning to cope with everyday contaminations.
Dirt is good for you.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

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(') said:

Asking in here as a few cyclists have said they wear buffs and polar
buffs.
Son has just came back from a week away skiing and he must have worn
his buff everyday and then stuffed it into a wee bag to come home
because it is stinking. Had a quick look on the 'net and there it said
PBs could be machine washed at 40 °C and tumble dried at low, any
obvious gotchas I should look for or will I just go with this

When I get in from a really muddy ride, i just undress in front of the
washing machine and stuff everything in and then put the machine on
'non-fast coloureds' cycle. Buff, Polar Buff, merino vests, lycra,
everything. It all seems to come out OK. The Polar Buff is a most useful
thing.

--
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;; when in the [censored], the wise man plants courgettes

Tony Raven said:

David Martin said:

I try to was clothes on as hot as they will take. Do you really want to
provide a nice warm wet environment for all the stuff in the SKOG you
have just ridden through to breed and grow? Organisms that thrive
inside animals and are excreted into SKOG (50% by weight of faeces) are
going to love 40C.

Yes, it strengthens the immune system. There is increasing evidence
that our fixation on cleanliness is causing all sorts of problems
because the body is not learning to cope with everyday contaminations.
Dirt is good for you.

Up to a point, Lord Copper. Whilst there is strong evidence that lack
of exposure to common soil bacteria does indeed reduce the development
of the immune system in its ability to respond to pathogenic organisms,
deliberately remaining immersed in dirt is not ideal.

And it should be noted that the increase in biological washing powders
and low temperature washing also correlates well with the decrease in
immunity..

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Quoted message said:

At 40 you do not kill the microorganisms in the clothes. At 50 you have
at least a fighting chance of getting rid of some. At 60 you get rid of
most. A boil wash for cotton sheets is there to sterilise, not to
clean.

I try to was clothes on as hot as they will take. Do you really want to
provide a nice warm wet environment for all the stuff in the SKOG you
have just ridden through to breed and grow? Organisms that thrive
inside animals and are excreted into SKOG (50% by weight of faeces) are
going to love 40C.

Isn't the idea of washing to *remove* the dirt, not to sterilise it in situ?

POHB said:

Isn't the idea of washing to *remove* the dirt, not to sterilise it in situ?

UTAPLC, but "Dirt" and "micro-organisms" are not freely interchangeable
terms.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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Quoted message said:

And it should be noted that the increase in biological washing powders
and low temperature washing also correlates well with the decrease in
immunity..

How does MRSA correlate with low-temperature washing?

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

Quoted message said:

UTAPLC, but "Dirt" and "micro-organisms" are not freely interchangeable
terms.

"UTAPLC" ?

....No, don't understand that banter at all
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POHB said:

"UTAPLC" ?

"Up to a point, Lord Copper". See Evelyn Waugh's "Scoop" for the
original, but it's much used here. Can mean either "up to a point,
though only that far and no further", or sometimes "no".

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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Quoted message said:

POHB said:

"UTAPLC" ?

"Up to a point, Lord Copper". See Evelyn Waugh's "Scoop" for the
original, but it's much used here. Can mean either "up to a point, though
only that far and no further", or sometimes "no".

UTAPLC.

In the original, it only means "no".

cheers,
clive

Clive George said:

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Quoted message said:

POHB said:

"UTAPLC" ?

"Up to a point, Lord Copper". See Evelyn Waugh's "Scoop" for the
original, but it's much used here. Can mean either "up to a point, though
only that far and no further", or sometimes "no".

UTAPLC.

In the original, it only means "no".

D, LC.

Tim

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

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Quoted message said:

And it should be noted that the increase in biological washing powders
and low temperature washing also correlates well with the decrease in
immunity..

How does MRSA correlate with low-temperature washing?

That is an interesting point, particularly relevant to the recent trend
of hospital staff to wearing clinical uniforms out of the hospital and
having responsibility for washing them at home.

Hospital laundrys tend to be very severe on clothes, with good reason.
Persuading some doctors that they should boil wash their flashy silk
ties could be interesting..

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