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Charles said:

Larry Hodges said:

Donovan Rebbechi said:

On 2005-08-05, Joe Humble <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:50:08 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>
>> John, I need to engage you as my counsel in this little IOM
>> matter.
>>
>> My learned friend, Donovan (wussy runner and scholar 'par
>> excellence'😉 and I have been engaged in a debate about the
>> definition of 'athlete'. His position is that a person can be
>> labelled 'athlete' simply by having trained and participated in an
>> event. There is no requirement as to this "athlete' s"
>> proficiency or achievements. Therefore a grossly overweight and
>> barely mobile person in theory can be labelled 'athlete'.
>
> Doesn't that translate into essentially every adult human being on
> earth? I can't think of anyone I know who has not at least
> minimally trained for and participated in some event.
>
> If a word's meaning devolves to a description of almost everyone
> then doesn't it lost any descriptive power? If we started to talk
> about who is fat and the description eventually boiled down to
> almost everyone then what is the use of the word?
>
> Who here would truly feel they are being honest if they told a
> person, "oh I'm an athlete" because they signed up for a fun run
> and walked an 18 minute per mile pace?

I've already answered these questions. I'm sick of this discussion.
Aren't you ? If you haven't had your fill of it already, I suggest
that you could get that and more by reading the thread on google.

Cheers,

Note the complete absence of my participation on the topic.

I think it is noticeable that you steer clear of most threads which
involve David the Oz and myself.

That's because you guys are always trolling John. Not that I mind that.

And as of late, I've been busy doing other things and have limited my
participation in everything here. And besides the Ch[f]uck excursion, I've
only participated superficially lately. Dating, work and training have kept
me from in-depth threads.

Quoted message said:

Since you first came here giving Rob Schuh the most horrendous
"trolling", you decided to stay for a while. You got set upon by the
usual crowd of bullies, who at the time were ruling the roost here and
bullying all newcomers.

I kind of miss tinkerbelle. He was always so predictible. Good times.

Quoted message said:

I came to your rescue for which you were most grateful and we became
firm friends. However, you then began to play the politics game,
realising that if you were seen to be a friend of mine, you were
likely to be on the receiving end by association, of the consistent
flak that was my lot at the time.

You made me feel welcome, and I appreciate that very much.

Quoted message said:

You discreetly distanced yourself from me and began to ingratiate
yourself with those whom you perceived to be the 'hierarchy. That the
dynamics of the Group have changed out of all recognition since then,
appears to have escaped your notice, as you are still very cautious
and selective about who you associate with.

I answer you almost always, and in a kind way I might add. I have nothing
against you John. I think you troll most of the time, but like I said, I
have no problem with that. All the dynamics here are why I've stayed,
including your trolling.

I associate with most everybody, you included. I like Lee, and I like you.
I treat you no differently than I treat Lee. I have no trouble with JW
either. Or Will for that matter. Maybe they've all changed since my
arrival, or maybe I just perceive it differently. At any rate, I don't see
the need to be in constant battle with them. I guess you could say I'm more
of a lurker these days.

Quoted message said:

That's a few home truths that may hurt a bit, but be honest Larry and
be the person that I thought you were when you first arrived.

I've mellowed since arriving, I'll admit. But I'm still the same John.

Quoted message said:

Have a nice weekend mate - you know I will!! ;o)

I intend to thanks. My boys are here, and will be through Wed as the witch
is out of town.
--
-Larry

"The troll hasn't been born who can troll us worse than we troll
ourselves." Hugh Beyer

Larry Hodges said:

Charles said:

Larry Hodges said:

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> On 2005-08-05, Joe Humble <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:50:08 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John, I need to engage you as my counsel in this little IOM
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> My learned friend, Donovan (wussy runner and scholar 'par
>>> excellence'😉 and I have been engaged in a debate about the
>>> definition of 'athlete'. His position is that a person can be
>>> labelled 'athlete' simply by having trained and participated in an
>>> event. There is no requirement as to this "athlete' s"
>>> proficiency or achievements. Therefore a grossly overweight and
>>> barely mobile person in theory can be labelled 'athlete'.
>>
>> Doesn't that translate into essentially every adult human being on
>> earth? I can't think of anyone I know who has not at least
>> minimally trained for and participated in some event.
>>
>> If a word's meaning devolves to a description of almost everyone
>> then doesn't it lost any descriptive power? If we started to talk
>> about who is fat and the description eventually boiled down to
>> almost everyone then what is the use of the word?
>>
>> Who here would truly feel they are being honest if they told a
>> person, "oh I'm an athlete" because they signed up for a fun run
>> and walked an 18 minute per mile pace?
>
> I've already answered these questions. I'm sick of this discussion.
> Aren't you ? If you haven't had your fill of it already, I suggest
> that you could get that and more by reading the thread on google.
>
> Cheers,

Note the complete absence of my participation on the topic.

I think it is noticeable that you steer clear of most threads which
involve David the Oz and myself.

That's because you guys are always trolling John. Not that I mind that.

And as of late, I've been busy doing other things and have limited my
participation in everything here. And besides the Ch[f]uck excursion, I've
only participated superficially lately. Dating, work and training have kept
me from in-depth threads.

Quoted message said:

Since you first came here giving Rob Schuh the most horrendous
"trolling", you decided to stay for a while. You got set upon by the
usual crowd of bullies, who at the time were ruling the roost here and
bullying all newcomers.

I kind of miss tinkerbelle. He was always so predictible. Good times.

Quoted message said:

I came to your rescue for which you were most grateful and we became
firm friends. However, you then began to play the politics game,
realising that if you were seen to be a friend of mine, you were
likely to be on the receiving end by association, of the consistent
flak that was my lot at the time.

You made me feel welcome, and I appreciate that very much.

Quoted message said:

You discreetly distanced yourself from me and began to ingratiate
yourself with those whom you perceived to be the 'hierarchy. That the
dynamics of the Group have changed out of all recognition since then,
appears to have escaped your notice, as you are still very cautious
and selective about who you associate with.

I answer you almost always, and in a kind way I might add. I have nothing
against you John. I think you troll most of the time, but like I said, I
have no problem with that. All the dynamics here are why I've stayed,
including your trolling.

I associate with most everybody, you included. I like Lee, and I like you.
I treat you no differently than I treat Lee. I have no trouble with JW
either. Or Will for that matter. Maybe they've all changed since my
arrival, or maybe I just perceive it differently. At any rate, I don't see
the need to be in constant battle with them. I guess you could say I'm more
of a lurker these days.

Quoted message said:

That's a few home truths that may hurt a bit, but be honest Larry and
be the person that I thought you were when you first arrived.

I've mellowed since arriving, I'll admit. But I'm still the same John.

Quoted message said:

Have a nice weekend mate - you know I will!! ;o)

I intend to thanks. My boys are here, and will be through Wed as the witch
is out of town.

It's a great time to be chums with them and devote your time and
energy to them. Enjoy!

Mine are all grown up and with lives of their own. We are all very
close and I see lots of them, but it will never be the same as it was,
or as nice as you have it now - so you make the most of it Larry as
they soon are gone! ;o)

HAGW!

Charles said:

Mine are all grown up and with lives of their own. We are not very
close and I don't see lots of them, but it will never be the same as it was,
or as nice as you have it now - so you make the most of it Larry as
they soon are gone!

Loser.

TBR
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 06:29:57 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Charles said:

Mine are all grown up and with lives of their own. We are not very
close and I don't see lots of them, but it will never be the same as it was,
or as nice as you have it now - so you make the most of it Larry as
they soon are gone!

Loser.

I thought you were beginning to make some useful and amusing
contributions Bill, why have you gone back to being silly again.

You have much more than this rubbish to contribute, and I would be
happy to exchange with you. However, if this is all you want to do I
shall just ignore you again.

Have a great weekend Bill - you know I am!! ;o)

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 06:29:57 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Charles said:

Mine are all grown up and with lives of their own. We are not very
close and I don't see lots of them, but it will never be the same as it was,
or as nice as you have it now - so you make the most of it Larry as
they soon are gone!

Loser.

I thought you were beginning to make some useful and amusing
contributions Bill, why have you gone back to being silly again.

You have much more than this rubbish to contribute, and I would be
happy to exchange with you. However, if this is all you want to do I
shall just ignore you again.

Have a great weekend Bill - you know I am!! ;o)

David said:

No - you are dead wrong - see "especially those performed in competitive
contexts"
*Competitive contexts* implies a level of achievement.

No, it merely implies that there is a competition.

Quoted message said:

The concept of 'fun runs' or 'open' competitions was not in vogue when that
definition was written.

You're making it up as you go. I've already demonstrated that this is false.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Charles said:

I thought you were beginning to make some useful and amusing
contributions Bill, why have you gone back to being silly again.

You have much more than this rubbish to contribute, and I would be
happy to exchange with you. However, if this is all you want to do I
shall just ignore you again.

I'll consider the alternative.

TBR
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."