Pilates.

Tetsuo Shima said:

Anyone tried it?

I'd never heard of it until you asked, so I did a search and almost laughed
my head off ewhen I saw all those fitness maniacs upside down and inside out
in all sorts of different machines. It's proabably a lot of fun but I doubt
it will do anything for your cycling except steal time away from you that
could be spent on a bike instead.
I go to the gym twice a week in winter and once a week in summer so it's not
that I'm against resistance training. I just thought this whole Pilates deal
was hilarious. You know like those late night shows where you can buy all
sorts of miracoulous fitness equipment. The equipment does the workout and
you just sit there looking pretty or whatever 😉))
I may have misinterpreted what I saw at a quick glance but this was my first
impression and they usually last 😉

If you want a stronger back and abdomen go to the Gym and do belly-backs and
crunches.

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Tetsuo Shima said:

Anyone tried it?

I'd never heard of it until you asked, so I did a search and almost

laughed

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my head off ewhen I saw all those fitness maniacs upside down and inside

out

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in all sorts of different machines. It's proabably a lot of fun but I

doubt

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it will do anything for your cycling except steal time away from you that
could be spent on a bike instead.
I go to the gym twice a week in winter and once a week in summer so it's

not

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that I'm against resistance training. I just thought this whole Pilates

deal

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was hilarious. You know like those late night shows where you can buy all
sorts of miracoulous fitness equipment. The equipment does the workout and
you just sit there looking pretty or whatever 😉))
I may have misinterpreted what I saw at a quick glance but this was my

first

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impression and they usually last 😉

If you want a stronger back and abdomen go to the Gym and do belly-backs

and

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crunches.

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My poor back is wasted, I doubt if it'd last.

Tetsuo Shima said:

My poor back is wasted, I doubt if it'd last.

Sounds like enough of a reason to start crunching away. There are no
shortcuts. If you can't do a short set of bellybacks then you have a medical
problem and maybe shouldn't even be on a bike.

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Tetsuo Shima said:

My poor back is wasted, I doubt if it'd last.

Sounds like enough of a reason to start crunching away. There are no
shortcuts. If you can't do a short set of bellybacks then you have a

medical

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problem and maybe shouldn't even be on a bike.

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Doctor seems to think that I have arthritis, (I've not taken the blood test
yet, not really keen on it.) Thing is, if I do have it, it's taken over my
major joints. There is no way I'm going to stop getting out on my bike
because of it.

Tetsuo Shima said:

Doctor seems to think that I have arthritis, (I've not taken the
blood test yet, not really keen on it.) Thing is, if I do have it,
it's taken over my major joints. There is no way I'm going to stop
getting out on my bike because of it.

That's a bummer. Hope your bike won't turn into a trike.
Maybe Pilates is a good way to go then.

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Tetsuo Shima said:

Doctor seems to think that I have arthritis, (I've not taken the
blood test yet, not really keen on it.) Thing is, if I do have it,
it's taken over my major joints. There is no way I'm going to stop
getting out on my bike because of it.

That's a bummer. Hope your bike won't turn into a trike.
Maybe Pilates is a good way to go then.

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F**K that! I'll be a cripple before I get on a trike. Would love a
recumbent bike though.

Per Elmsäter said:

Tetsuo Shima said:

Anyone tried it?

I'd never heard of it until you asked, so I did a search and almost
laughed my head off ewhen I saw all those fitness maniacs upside down
and inside out in all sorts of different machines. It's proabably a
lot of fun but I doubt it will do anything for your cycling except
steal time away from you that could be spent on a bike instead.
I go to the gym twice a week in winter and once a week in summer so
it's not that I'm against resistance training. I just thought this
whole Pilates deal was hilarious. You know like those late night
shows where you can buy all sorts of miracoulous fitness equipment.
The equipment does the workout and you just sit there looking pretty
or whatever 😉)) I may have misinterpreted what I saw at a quick
glance but this was my first impression and they usually last 😉

If you want a stronger back and abdomen go to the Gym and do
belly-backs and crunches.

a lot of Pilates is now done as floor work on a mat. Me, I'm a fan of a
fitness ball ( swiss ball) for "core" work. Careful with the crunches tho -
there are so many ways to cheat and not work your ab but other muscles
instead. This is where the ball is so great, there's no cheating.

http://www.spine-health.com/topics/conserv/rehab/ball/ball04.html

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Tetsuo asks:

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Anyone tried it?

Yup! Two years or so. Does wonders for the midriff (or "gorsle of power" as
our instructor called it), and the "yummy mummies" (blame ClydesdaleMTB for the
term, not me!) who frequent the classes are a good incentive to keep going.

Steve "ain't wearing no girdle"

I get a kick out of the Hollywood stars who seem to think they
discovered Pilates.

"Joseph Pilates introduced his method of exercise to the public in
the 1930's. He originally developed it to help strengthen and
rehabilitate immobilized soldiers during World War 1. His main
goal was to develop the body uniformly through a series of
precise movements that control the body through space and
stabilize it while it is working."

Good things last.

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>Tetsuo Shima wrote:
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>It doesn't bother me, I DEMAND a stupid reply once in while. 🙂

Seriously?

Shaun aRe

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>Is that a stupid or serious reply?

Yes.
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Penny S said:

a lot of Pilates is now done as floor work on a mat. Me, I'm a fan of a
fitness ball ( swiss ball) for "core" work. Careful with the crunches tho -
there are so many ways to cheat and not work your ab but other muscles
instead. This is where the ball is so great, there's no cheating.

http://www.spine-health.com/topics/conserv/rehab/ball/ball04.html

Fitness balls are killer! I got a couple balls (shut up Sorni) to put in
our work gym... can only do a fraction of the crunches you could
otherwise do on the floor.
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Penny S said:

a lot of Pilates is now done as floor work on a mat. Me, I'm a
fan of a fitness ball ( swiss ball) for "core" work. Careful with
the crunches tho - there are so many ways to cheat and not work your
ab but other muscles instead. This is where the ball is so great,
there's no cheating.

http://www.spine-health.com/topics/conserv/rehab/ball/ball04.html

Fitness balls are killer! I got a couple balls (shut up Sorni) to put
in our work gym... can only do a fraction of the crunches you could
otherwise do on the floor.

that's because a ball forces you to do them correctly. Most people use their
hip flexors way to much on floor crunches. I like the ball pushups, and the
one where you do leg lifts while (trying to) hold the ball with your feet.

shut up, sorni.

Penny

Penny S said:

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Fitness balls are killer! I got a couple balls (shut up Sorni) to put
in our work gym... can only do a fraction of the crunches you could
otherwise do on the floor.

that's because a ball forces you to do them correctly. Most people
use their hip flexors way to much on floor crunches. I like the ball
pushups, and the one where you do leg lifts while (trying to) hold
the ball with your feet.

shut up, sorni.

Et tu, Pennus?

Bill "no apparati in my Pilates classes (none for a year tho'😉" S.

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> >>>On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:39:27 +0100, Tetsuo Shima wrote:
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> >>>>Anyone tried it?
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> >>>Yep, but could never get the parrot to stay on my shoulder.
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> >>Staple gun.
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> > Jackass springsto mind.
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> Nah, the jackass would just scare the parrot away.
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> P.S. You really need to expect this sort of thing on AM-B.

It doesn't bother me, I DEMAND a stupid reply once in while. 🙂

Seriously?

Shaun aRe

Is that a stupid or serious reply?

Indeed ',;~}~

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>>Tetsuo Shima wrote:
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>>It doesn't bother me, I DEMAND a stupid reply once in while. 🙂

Seriously?

Shaun aRe

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>>Is that a stupid or serious reply?

Yes.

I most heartily concur.

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Shaun aRe

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>>> Tetsuo Shima wrote:
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>>> It doesn't bother me, I DEMAND a stupid reply once in while. 🙂
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> Seriously?
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> Shaun aRe
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>>> Is that a stupid or serious reply?

Yes.

I most heartily concur.

Knock off that seriuous attitude will 'ya

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>>>> Tetsuo Shima wrote:
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>>>> It doesn't bother me, I DEMAND a stupid reply once in while. 🙂
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>> Seriously?
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>> Shaun aRe
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>>>> Is that a stupid or serious reply?
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Yes.

I most heartily concur.

Knock off that seriuous attitude will 'ya

Fork queue.

Shaun aRe

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>>>>> It doesn't bother me, I DEMAND a stupid reply once in while.
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>>> Shaun aRe
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>>>>> Is that a stupid or serious reply?
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> Yes.

I most heartily concur.

Knock off that seriuous attitude will 'ya

Fork queue.

My ceque. ( = Per 😉

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Tetsuo Shima said:

Anyone tried it?

I'd never heard of it until you asked, so I did a search and almost

laughed

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my head off ewhen I saw all those fitness maniacs upside down and inside

out

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in all sorts of different machines. It's proabably a lot of fun but I

doubt

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it will do anything for your cycling except steal time away from you that
could be spent on a bike instead.
I go to the gym twice a week in winter and once a week in summer so it's

not

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that I'm against resistance training. I just thought this whole Pilates

deal

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was hilarious. You know like those late night shows where you can buy all
sorts of miracoulous fitness equipment. The equipment does the workout and
you just sit there looking pretty or whatever 😉))
I may have misinterpreted what I saw at a quick glance but this was my

first

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impression and they usually last 😉

If you want a stronger back and abdomen go to the Gym and do belly-backs

and

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crunches.

From what I understand a lot of the Pilates stuff - particularly the novice
stuff - can be done sans machines. And it's supposed to be a great core
strengthener. I'm guessing if you joined a Pilates class that they would
have all the fancy equipment for you and you wouldn't need to buy anything.

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From what I understand a lot of the Pilates stuff - particularly the

novice

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stuff - can be done sans machines. And it's supposed to be a great core
strengthener. I'm guessing if you joined a Pilates class that they would
have all the fancy equipment for you and you wouldn't need to buy

anything.

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The class I do is about 95% floor exercises on a mat, and the other 5% is
using some springs on vertical piping that you are used for a few types of
resistance exercises. I can free squat over 600 pounds, and bench 325, in
other words, I'm not doing Pilates in some pitiful attempt to get strong via
some nonsense equipment from TV that does the workout for you. Pilates
concentrates the work you do in places most people working out at the gym
have not concentrated on--though the ones doing allot of work on those big
inflatable balls get many similar benefits.

Its pretty easy to do a situp without engaging your core muscles
properly--you can still get strong abs, but you can get them without helping
the postural components of a healthy back. And I have found that
concentrating on the core abdominal "stabilizer muscles" which you use in
Pilates, while riding my bike, keeps better power transfer to the pedals,
without wasting oxygen on the upper body muscles which don't have to
be--should not really be, heavily engaged in this ( doing the Pilates
workouts allows me to figure out what muscles in the core area "should" be
contacting and stabilizing the work coming from pedaling). I end up riding
faster with less effort, I don't get numb hands the way I used to from
gripping to tight, and my back always feels awesome after a ride, instead of
trashed.
I can't say this will be true for everyone---it makes sense to me that it
would, but I have no facts other than personal experience with this to
offer.

Dan V