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  1. We are planning a trip to Colorado in September 2006. Among other things, we
    would like to bicycle down Pikes Peak.
    At this point, I am looking at Challenges Unlimited and Pikes Peak MTB Tours
    as possible choices.

    http://www.bikithikit.com/pikes-peak-biking.htm and
    http://www.biketours.com/index.cfm

    Any advice, recommendations, suggestions, etc., about this? Any other don't
    miss bike tours in the Colorado Springs or Estes Park areas?
    Always appreciate positive assistance.
    Thanks,
    *Jason. in Indy

  2. I might be interested in this. Keep me posted. I live in Fort
    Collins. Did you post it here?
    http://forums.mtbr.com/forumdisplay.php?f=70

    Jim
    http://home.comcast.net/~oil_free_and_happy/

  3. Jason Settles said:

    We are planning a trip to Colorado in September 2006. Among other things, we
    would like to bicycle down Pikes Peak.
    At this point, I am looking at Challenges Unlimited and Pikes Peak MTB Tours
    as possible choices.

    You do realize it's a van ride up the mountain and then just coast down
    the mountainside, don't you? If you're into scenery without expending
    effort, it's a lot more enjoyable and cheaper and just as scenic to
    take the Cog railway up to the summit of Pikes.

    If you're going with Challenge Unlimited only because it's the only
    option for riding a bike on Pikes Peak, consider Mount Evans. That's
    another Colorado 14er, but bikes are permitted on the road to the top
    of Evans. This is a very *tough* climb; do this only if you're fit.

    The Challenge Unlimited recommends taking the morning trip. I'll
    endorse that recommendation. Afternoon weather in the mountains --
    especially in September -- can get pretty wild in the afternoon. You
    want to be below timberline by noon or so. In September, there's a good
    chance of snow at high altitudes.

    I don't have any experience with the guided MTB tours, but that seems
    like a reasonable way to cover some good trails in a limited amount of
    time. A lot of places in Pike National Forest are also popular with
    4-wheelers and dirt bikers; the tours will probably know which roads to
    avoid and which to take.

    Estes Park and environs is surrounded by National Park and Wilderness
    Area designations. That means mountain bikes aren't aloud in big chunks
    of federal land, so you need to pick your trails carefully. Outside of
    the restricted areas, many of the forest roads I've been on in the area
    are inundated with motorized 4-wheelers and dirt bikes.

    That said, there's plenty of good mountain biking in Roosevelt and
    Arapaho National Forests. The Boulder Area Trails Coalition just
    released a comprehensive Boulder County trails map that you can check
    out if you like, though I think the better mountain biking is in
    Larimer County. Info about this map is here:

    http://bcn.boulder.co.us/batco/batcomap.htm

    If you just want to toodle around the roads in Estes Park, you can do
    that too. You must be comfortable riding in heavy traffic, but other
    than that it's a reasonable thing to do.

    If you want to bike inside Rocky Mountain National Park, again you must
    be comfortable riding in heavy traffic. September is elk bugling
    season, so traffic may be insanely heavy. It's not dangerous, but there
    are no shoulders on most of the park roads and there's lots of RV and
    SUV traffic.

    It's all beautiful country. Whatever you decide to do, it'll take your
    breath away.

    RFM
    http://www.cyclelicio.us/

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Fritz M () said:

    If you're going with Challenge Unlimited only because it's the only
    option for riding a bike on Pikes Peak, consider Mount Evans. That's
    another Colorado 14er, but bikes are permitted on the road to the top
    of Evans. This is a very *tough* climb; do this only if you're fit.

    Though be advised that in both 2004 and 2005, the Mount Evans road was
    only open as far as Summit Lake - 12,830'. Chiz.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Mr. Charles Kennedy (Krankieburgh): Would the Prime Minister care to
    comment on a report in today=3Fs Guardian that he: =3Farrived late for a
    meeting with Jacques Chirac, smelling of alcohol, and with body language
    suggesting a total disregard for the rights of ethnic minorities, lone
    parents and laboratory animals=3F?

  5. You might consider the paved bicycle paths in Summit County and Eagle
    County.

    This is gorgeous country. You can bicycle over Vail Pass, Keystone,
    Breckenridge, Frisco, Dillon, Vail, Copper Mountain, Avon, Edwards,
    etc.

    Expect lots of company.

    http://tinyurl.com/9qcue

  6. Also, you can bicycle up from Copper Mountain to Leadville via CO 91
    and 24 - a most challenging and beautiful ride. Goes over Fremont Pass
    at about 11,000 feet.

    http://www.topoftherockiesbyway.org/map.htm

  7. Fritz M said:

    You do realize it's a van ride up the mountain and then just coast down
    the mountainside, don't you? If you're into scenery without expending
    effort, it's a lot more enjoyable and cheaper and just as scenic to
    take the Cog railway up to the summit of Pikes.

    If you're going with Challenge Unlimited only because it's the only
    option for riding a bike on Pikes Peak, consider Mount Evans. That's
    another Colorado 14er, but bikes are permitted on the road to the top
    of Evans. This is a very *tough* climb; do this only if you're fit.

    The Challenge Unlimited recommends taking the morning trip. I'll
    endorse that recommendation. Afternoon weather in the mountains --
    especially in September -- can get pretty wild in the afternoon. You
    want to be below timberline by noon or so. In September, there's a good
    chance of snow at high altitudes.

    Interesting...When did they open up the
    Pikes Peak toll road to bikes? That's
    my home mountain, and as far as I can
    remember the road's been off-limits.

    I'll be riding it ASAP.

    Coasting down Pikes Peak will be much more
    of a physical chore than people will expect.

    Robert

  8. Quoted message said:

    Interesting...When did they open up the
    Pikes Peak toll road to bikes?

    The Pikes Peak toll road is only open to that tour company. If you just
    want to ride up and down that's still prohibited. Bike are allowed on
    the Barr Trail, I think.

    RFM

  9. Fritz M said:
    Quoted message said:

    Interesting...When did they open up the
    Pikes Peak toll road to bikes?

    The Pikes Peak toll road is only open to that tour company. If you just
    want to ride up and down that's still prohibited.

    That seems like a total crock. Am I missing
    something, do you think? Help me out Fritz.
    If it's safe enough for the tourgroup, it's safe
    enough for me and others. If it's fine to
    ride Mt. Evans and Fall River Road and all
    the roads in the state and national parks
    it should be okay to ride Pikes Peak.

    Quoted message said:

    Bike are allowed on
    the Barr Trail, I think.

    Yeah. That's a real tough summit on a
    mtn bike though. I've only made it to around
    timberline on a bike. I've hiked it four or
    five times so I know that cyclists would
    be carryin the last mile at least, as the trail
    winds up the 'golden staircase' and other
    features. I plan on completing that some
    day. But I've always wanted to ride the road
    as well. It would be a fantastic, incredible climb.
    More fun than Evans I bet. The road has been
    grated into submission for the most part
    and even tarred in large measure last
    I saw it. I do believe I would make the
    attempt on a road bike.

    What do you think the rationale is for
    opening it up for some and not others?
    The road is publically owned.

    I'll be making some calls on Monday.

    Robert

  10. A good "singletrack" road goes over Corona pass (AKA Rollins Pass, AKA
    Moffit Hill Route). I've seen subarus on this road, but I wouldn't take
    my car up here. It is just fine for hardtails or cruser bikes with big
    tires.

    http://www.mountainlake.com/mlp/perm/corona10.htm

    There's a ton of mountian bike trails in Grand County, and quite a few
    forest service roads that are in good enough shape for a road bike with
    bigger tires.

  11. Quoted message said:

    That seems like a total crock.

    Well, yeah, I agree. I think it results from the general
    anti-road-cyclist vibe in El Paso County in general .

    I'd love to hear how your phone call goes.

    RFM
    http://www.cyclelicio.us/

  12. Dave Larrington said:

    Though be advised that in both 2004 and 2005, the Mount Evans road was
    only open as far as Summit Lake - 12,830'. Chiz.

    I rode to the top of Mt. Evans in 2005 without a problem.
    --
    terry morse - Undiscovered Country Tours - http://udctours.com

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, Terry Morse

    () said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    Though be advised that in both 2004 and 2005, the Mount Evans road was
    only open as far as Summit Lake - 12,830'. Chiz.

    I rode to the top of Mt. Evans in 2005 without a problem.

    Bah!

    When I was in the neighbourhood in September last year there were signs
    out saying that the road was only open to Summit Lake, so I didn't
    bother to investigate further. Someone should tell 'em to get their
    signs in :-(

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Murdock's Gardening Law: If it's green, the paving isn't finished yet.

  14. Fritz M said:
    Quoted message said:

    That seems like a total crock.

    Well, yeah, I agree. I think it results from the general
    anti-road-cyclist vibe in El Paso County in general .

    I'd love to hear how your phone call goes.

    Well, the lady at Pikes Peak America's Mountain
    confirmed what you wrote--that the only way you
    can enjoy the Pikes Peak toll road on a bicycle is
    as part of a tour group (an expensive tourgroup no
    less) that drops off at the summit. Those of us
    who would like to climb the hill are simply SOL...
    unless, she wondered aloud, if perhaps a group of
    private citizens could apply for a permit as an
    escorted group to the manager of Pikes Peak,
    who would designate it a 'special event' and thus
    require all sorts of special event America's Mountain
    insurance and permits.

    Isn't the road a public road? No, she assures
    me, then explains that it's operated by a special
    authority through a deal with the city of colorado
    springs and the US Forest Service. Hold on a second,
    sounds pretty public to me. Turns out she doesn't
    really know who or what exactly is responsible for
    the toll road. A call to the city government gets redirected
    back to the nice lady at Pikes Peak America's Mountain.
    So, it's a mystery wrapped in an enigma. I
    will send a request to the manager for
    a change in his majesty's arbitrary law, I doubt it will
    be well received..

    In the meantime there are city police patrolling
    this quasi-non-public road.

    A traffic sargeant at the relevant police station,
    that which cleans up accidents on the toll road,
    agreed that it was pretty silly to ban cyclists for
    safety reasons while allowing groups of newbies
    to ride down from the top in varying states of
    altitude-induced inebriation. He hadn't heard of
    any actual law concerning cyclists on the mtn.
    but he promised to find someone who knew more.
    I'm still waiting for a call back on that. I'm sure
    they have nothing better to do over there.

    The mission statement for America's Mountain
    says they are dedicated to helping people enjoy
    the mountain in an environmentally friendly
    manner.

    Robert

  15. Quoted message said:

    Well, the lady at Pikes Peak America's Mountain
    confirmed what you wrote--that the only way you
    can enjoy the Pikes Peak toll road on a bicycle is
    as part of a tour group (an expensive tourgroup no
    less) that drops off at the summit. Those of us
    who would like to climb the hill are simply SOL...
    unless, she wondered aloud, if perhaps a group of
    private citizens could apply for a permit as an
    escorted group to the manager of Pikes Peak,
    who would designate it a 'special event' and thus
    require all sorts of special event America's Mountain
    insurance and permits.

    You would still essentially be rolling down the hill with one of these
    expensive tour groups, right? I am sure it would be a scenic ride, but
    I would not personally want to do it.

  16. catzz66 said:

    You would still essentially be rolling down the hill with one of these
    expensive tour groups, right? I am sure it would be a scenic ride, but
    I would not personally want to do it.

    I'm much more interested in riding up.

  17. Quoted message said:
    catzz66 said:

    You would still essentially be rolling down the hill with one of these
    expensive tour groups, right? I am sure it would be a scenic ride, but
    I would not personally want to do it.

    I'm much more interested in riding up.

    I am not at all opposed to coasting, if I have put some pain before the
    pleasure. =]

  18. Quoted message said:

    The mission statement for America's Mountain
    says they are dedicated to helping people enjoy
    the mountain in an environmentally friendly
    manner.

    Heh.

    Thanks for the update.

    RFM

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