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  1. Rich said:

    "Jo Anne Slaven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 15 Jun 2006 10:16:01 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"
    <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

    re mushrooms...

    Quoted message said:

    Is this a texture thing (like someone else wrote about), or a flavor
    thing?
    If it's just the texture, you might like Tony Bourdain's recipe for
    mushroom
    soup, where the soup is puréed both to extract the maximum flavor
    and to get
    rid of the rubbery texture. I can type up the recipe if you'd like
    it.

    For me, with mushrooms, it's the *flavour* I can't take. If you
    pureed them it would make whatever you were cooking much, much
    worse. At
    least if they are whole you can pick them out.

    If anybody ever gives you some truffles or truffle oil as a gift,
    e-mail me, and I'll tell you my address. I'll pay the postage.

    ;o) Rich

    Ah, but truffles aren't exactly the same thing. Sure, they are a fungus.
    But definitely not the same as common button mushrooms.

    I am not a big mushroom fan, either, but I was served a wonderful [censored]
    mushroom soup once.

    Jill

  2. The Bubbo said:

    Do you cook with something you don't like because you know it should be there
    or because people like it? Do you avoid at all costs a seemingly normal
    ingredient?

    Quoted message said:

    .:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

    Since food aversions are psycho-social problems, trying to disguise
    certain foods is probably not a good idea unless you know your guests
    are unarmed and non-lethal.

  3. Nancy Young said:

    "MG" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    cannot stand the taste of coriander/cilantro leaves...takes like
    soap to me

    Ditto, this is a cilantro-free household. Other than that, don't even
    think of cooking liver, even next door. Just don't cook that foul
    stuff and we'll all get along. (laugh)

    nancy (lives in a calves liver free neighborhood)

    When my mom still lived in Memphis (a long time ago!) we went to lunch at
    this little place in Bartlett. She was absolutely *thrilled* to see they
    had calves liver and onions on the menu and she ordered it. I don't
    remember what I ordered, I just know it wasn't liver and onions. I can't
    describe the taste; it's like biting into chewy iron. She loved it. I
    wonder if that place is still there? They did have other good food but that
    was 20 years ago 🙂 They probably aren't still there.

    Jill

  4. Rich said:


    "Jo Anne Slaven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 15 Jun 2006 10:16:01 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"
    <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
    For me, with mushrooms, it's the *flavour* I can't take. If you pureed
    them it would make whatever you were cooking much, much worse. At
    least if they are whole you can pick them out.

    If anybody ever gives you some truffles or truffle oil as a gift, e-mail me,
    and I'll tell you my address. I'll pay the postage.

    Uh uh... Truffles are by no means members of the mushroom family...
    (oh, sorry, I shouldn't have said that, there goes your truffle
    load... ;-))

    Nathalie in Switzerland

  5. Kimberly said:
    Quoted message said:

    you might like Tony Bourdain's recipe for mushroom soup, where the soup
    is puréed both to extract the maximum flavor and to get rid of the
    rubbery texture. I can type up the recipe if you'd like it.

    I'd be interested in that. I like the flavor in some instances and with
    some types. I abhor the texture.

    Okay, the following is from _Les Halles Cookbook_:

    Mushroom Soup

    "This is a ridiculously easy soup to make. It's tasty and durable, and it
    gets even better overnight."

    INGREDIENTS
    6 tablespoons butter
    1 small onion, thinly sliced
    12 ounces button mushrooms
    4 cups light chicken stock or broth
    1 sprig of flat parsley
    2 ounces high-quality sherry (don't use the cheap grocery-store variety:
    it's salty and unappetizing and will ruin your soup)

    EQUIPMENT
    medium saucepan
    wooden spoon
    blender

    In the medium saucepan melt 2 tablespoons of the butter over medium heat and
    add the onion. Cook until the onion is soft and translucent, then add the
    mushrooms and the remaining butter. Let the mixture sweat for about 8
    minutes, taking care that the onion doesn't take on any brown color. Stir in
    the chicken stock and the parsley and bring to a boil. Immediately reduce
    the heat and simmer for about an hour.

    After an hour, remove the parsley and discard. Let the soup cool for a few
    minutes, then transfer to the blender and CAREFULLY blend at high speed
    until smooth. Do I have to remind you to do this in stages, with the
    blender's lid firmly held DOWN, and with the weight of your body keeping
    that thing from flying off and allowing boiling hot mushroom purée to erupt
    all over your kitchen?

    When blended, return the mix to the pot, season with salt and pepper, and
    bring up to a simmer again. Add the sherry, mix well, and serve immediately.

    Serves 4

    IMPROVISATION:
    To astound your guests with Wild Mushroom Soup, simply replace some of those
    button mushrooms with a few dried cèpes or morels, which have been soaked
    until soft, drained, and squeezed. Not too many; the dried mushrooms will
    have a much stronger taste, and you don't want to overwhelm the soup. Pan
    sear, on high heat, a single small, pretty, chanterelle or morel for each
    portion, and then slice into a cute fan and float on top in each bowl.

    "And if you really want to ratchet your soup into pretentious (but
    delicious), drizzle a few tiny drops of truffle oil over the surface just
    before serving. Why the hell not? Everybody else is doing it."

    Bob

  6. The Bubbo said:


    When I was making my curried potato salad this weekend and I was chopping the
    green onions I had a moment of "what the hell!"

    I hate onions, I always have. As a kid I remember the fierce battles to get me
    to eat them (and mushrooms and olives). I've come to a semi-truce on
    onions...must be green onions, cooked, small quantities. Anyway, I cook with
    onions all the time even though I don't like them. I put them in things
    because they belong or because I know I'm serving it to people who like
    onions.

    I don't like big pieces of cooked onion - it's the texture.
    So when I was a kid my mother used to grate onions by hand to put
    in spaghetti sauce, etc. I love the flavor, it's just the texture
    I hate. Love raw onions. And I like onions that have been cooked
    till they're brown and crisp. Just can't stand the slimy cooked
    ones. Anyway, I never ever put anything I don't like in anything
    I cook no matter who's going to be eating it.

    Oh, and I don't like olives, either. Although I love olive
    oil. How alike are we? Do you think we were separated at
    birth or something? ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    The one thing I can't do is use mushrooms. I just can't. Mushrooms are
    one of the vilest edible substances in this arm of the galaxy.

    I'm with you on that!

    Quoted message said:

    Do you cook with something you don't like because you know it should be there
    or because people like it?

    Nope. No way. Never. Even if I'm not going to actually
    eat any of it myself. But usually I only cook if I'm going to
    eat at least some of it. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Do you avoid at all costs a seemingly normal ingredient?

    Shoot, yeah. I hate pecans. For a number of years after I
    started making my own pecan pie, from which I would pluck
    the pecans and suck any gooey stuff from them and then spit
    them out, I would continue to put in the pecans. Then one day
    I had an epiphany and I said to myself, "Hey, there's no law
    you have to put those nasty things in the pie!" So I started
    making pecanless pie. Yum!!!! (When I was a kid and my mother
    or one of my other relatives would serve pecan pie, they would
    get very upset that I had to suck the goo off each pecan, since
    then none of them could eat the nuts and they would go to waste!
    Well, they could have still eaten the nuts - after all, I did
    not have any communicable diseases - but they chose not, too.
    And I wasn't about to give up the extra goo that clung to the
    nuts. I mean, the whole thing is about the goo, fer cryin' out
    loud!)

    Kate

    --
    Kate Connally
    “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
    Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
    Until you bite their heads off.”
    What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
    [email hidden]

  7. jmcquown said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:
    Kimberly said:

    I don't like the texture of onions, but I love the flavor, so I use
    them alot...as well as green onions and shallots and leeks.

    My ex-girlfriend didn't like the texture of onions, but she liked
    the flavor. So she'd run them through a grinder to get rid of the
    texture.


    Same here. I don't care for the texture of onions (or celery,
    either, for that matter). But I find they don't bother me if I do a
    very fine dice rather than a course chop. They also need to be
    cooked soft.

    Ugh, that would be the worst for me. Too small to eat around, too big
    not notice.

    I hate onions.

    Brian
    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  8. Eggs ! I hate eggs and don't know the reason why. I will happily cook
    them for others but the only thing I regularly cook for myself that uses
    them is Yorkshire Pud.

    Steve

  9. jmcquown wrote on 16 Jun 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nancy (lives in a calves liver free neighborhood)


    Sigh...I loves liver...

    --
    -Alan

  10. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    When I stirfry quartered almost tender crisp onions are a must

    Which is why I don't tend to stir-fry 🙂

    I use green onions when I stir-fry. I find they suit the flavors much better than
    regular onions.

    kimberly

  11. -L. said:


    The Bubbo said:

    When I was making my curried potato salad this weekend and I was chopping


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    green onions I had a moment of "what the hell!"

    I hate onions, I always have. As a kid I remember the fierce battles to get


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to eat them (and mushrooms and olives). I've come to a semi-truce on
    onions...must be green onions, cooked, small quantities. Anyway, I cook


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    onions all the time even though I don't like them. I put them in things
    because they belong or because I know I'm serving it to people who like
    onions. The one thing I can't do is use mushrooms. I just can't. Mushrooms


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    one of the vilest edible substances in this arm of the galaxy.

    Do you cook with something you don't like because you know it should be


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    or because people like it? Do you avoid at all costs a seemingly normal
    ingredient?

    Nope. The only 2 things I don't like are lima beans and okra - and I
    don't ever need to cook with them.

    We don't eat certain foods for differing reasons, though.

    BTW....not liking mushrooms and olives is just....evil! I could eat
    olives 24/7.

    -L.

    David has a pack of mushrooms in the fridge, if he doesn't eat them before he
    takes off for the summer I will send them to you. When you see the midgety
    person in the hazmat suit show up with a lead lined box of mushrooms...that's
    me.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  12. Andy said:

    The Bubbo <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The one thing I can't do is use mushrooms. I just can't. Mushrooms are
    one of the vilest edible substances in this arm of the galaxy.

    Say that AFTER you've tried the magic variety and I'll eat my weight in
    [censored]!

    Andy

    I gagged the first time. Just KNOWING what they were made it terrible.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  13. jmcquown said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:
    Kimberly said:

    I don't like the texture of onions, but I love the flavor, so I use
    them alot...as well as green onions and shallots and leeks.

    My ex-girlfriend didn't like the texture of onions, but she liked the
    flavor. So she'd run them through a grinder to get rid of the texture.


    Same here. I don't care for the texture of onions (or celery, either, for
    that matter). But I find they don't bother me if I do a very fine dice
    rather than a course chop. They also need to be cooked soft.

    Jill

    I get paranoid of celery in tuna or chicken or pasta salads that other people
    make because I'm always trying to eat around the onions and I don't mind the
    celery but I hate the onions. Every bite of celery makes me pause waiting for
    the inevitable onion rudeness.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  14. Default User said:
    jmcquown said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:

    Kimberly wrote:

    > I don't like the texture of onions, but I love the flavor, so I use
    > them alot...as well as green onions and shallots and leeks.

    My ex-girlfriend didn't like the texture of onions, but she liked
    the flavor. So she'd run them through a grinder to get rid of the
    texture.


    Same here. I don't care for the texture of onions (or celery,
    either, for that matter). But I find they don't bother me if I do a
    very fine dice rather than a course chop. They also need to be
    cooked soft.

    Ugh, that would be the worst for me. Too small to eat around, too big
    not notice.

    I hate onions.

    Brian

    dude, exactly. If I hae to cook something with onions I leave them in big
    chunks to pick them out later.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  15. "Mr Libido Incognito" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    jmcquown wrote on 16 Jun 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nancy (lives in a calves liver free neighborhood)


    Sigh...I loves liver...

    Me too! Yum!

    I will never forget the first time I cooked liver and onions for DH. We were
    just dating at the time, and I said I was going to make liver and onions,
    and he gave me an odd look, but said okay, fine. We were dating...he wasn't
    going to make a fuss.

    When he started cutting into the liver, he was amazed...what is this stuff?
    I can cut it!! I can chew it!!! I don't even need a knife, I can cut it with
    a fork!!!

    Apparently, he'd only had the shoe-leather version of liver (and I'd never
    had it cooked that badly) and he was quite impressed.

    Donna

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mr Libido Incognito said:

    jmcquown wrote on 16 Jun 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nancy (lives in a calves liver free neighborhood)


    Sigh...I loves liver...

    I like certain types of liver. :-)

    Rabbit, duck and goose liver being the most delicious IMHO, chicken
    liver being the worst. Calves liver is ok if it's served medium rare and
    not over-cooked. Marinade also helps. Deer liver is good if it's fresh,
    as is emu liver.

    Oh man, the best liver I've ever had (except rabbit which is my #1
    favorite) is fresh emu liver! Killed and dressed out earlier in the day,
    then sliced up and fried fresh without even chilling right after getting
    home with the rest of the meat.

    <sigh>

    Deer liver cooked fresh harvested is also better than thawed frozen.
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

  17. In article <3vHkg.14179$Jk2.13542@fed1read03>, "Nexis" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    When I stirfry quartered almost tender crisp onions are a must

    Which is why I don't tend to stir-fry 🙂

    I use green onions when I stir-fry. I find they suit the flavors much better
    than
    regular onions.

    kimberly

    Try leeks in stir fry. ;-d
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:
    Andy said:

    The Bubbo <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    The one thing I can't do is use mushrooms. I just can't. Mushrooms are
    one of the vilest edible substances in this arm of the galaxy.

    Say that AFTER you've tried the magic variety and I'll eat my weight in
    [censored]!

    Andy

    I gagged the first time. Just KNOWING what they were made it terrible.

    <lol> Most people solve that in two ways.
    Dry them and powder them, then load them into gel caps, or make mushroom
    tea with a little vodka, filter and toss the solids. ;-)
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:
    jmcquown said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:

    Kimberly wrote:

    > I don't like the texture of onions, but I love the flavor, so I use
    > them alot...as well as green onions and shallots and leeks.

    My ex-girlfriend didn't like the texture of onions, but she liked the
    flavor. So she'd run them through a grinder to get rid of the texture.


    Same here. I don't care for the texture of onions (or celery, either, for
    that matter). But I find they don't bother me if I do a very fine dice
    rather than a course chop. They also need to be cooked soft.

    Jill

    I get paranoid of celery in tuna or chicken or pasta salads that other people
    make because I'm always trying to eat around the onions and I don't mind the
    celery but I hate the onions. Every bite of celery makes me pause waiting for
    the inevitable onion rudeness.

    I don't put onions into cold meat salads, but I do put celery. :-)
    I cannot stand raw onions. They must be well cooked. I hated them as a
    kid but have learned to enjoy them to the point of really liking a good
    french onion soup.
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    D.Currie said:

    "Mr Libido Incognito" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    jmcquown wrote on 16 Jun 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    > nancy (lives in a calves liver free neighborhood)

    Sigh...I loves liver...

    Me too! Yum!

    I will never forget the first time I cooked liver and onions for DH. We were
    just dating at the time, and I said I was going to make liver and onions,
    and he gave me an odd look, but said okay, fine. We were dating...he wasn't
    going to make a fuss.

    When he started cutting into the liver, he was amazed...what is this stuff?
    I can cut it!! I can chew it!!! I don't even need a knife, I can cut it with
    a fork!!!

    Apparently, he'd only had the shoe-leather version of liver (and I'd never
    had it cooked that badly) and he was quite impressed.

    Donna

    <lol> Overcooked liver is one of the nastiest foods on earth!

    That's one reason (with a few exceptions) that I won't refuse to try
    foods I've not liked historically. There are proper ways to prepare some
    foods and preparation makes all the difference in the world!
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

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