Picking Krypto locks with Bic pens

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:03:34 +0100, Colin Boyd <""coboyd\"@(none)>

Quoted message said:

http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=66128

So what;s the news ? It's a Krypto - they've all (except the New
York) always been rubbish. The lock barrels are bottom-end stuff and
_very_ easy to pick, and the hook-foot models are one of the few bike
locks that still succumb to a screw jack.

Get a Squire, ideally a Paramount. Tough as a badger's [censored] and
British made too.

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"Colin Boyd" <""coboyd\"@(none)> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

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I haven't verified this myself, but many apparently have.

I've just tried this on my Kryptonite Evolution 2000. Once I'd found the
right type of biro ( 5 mins ) it took about 20 secs to open using a free
charity biro. i.e Fairly thin walled to get into cylinder. Only bought the
thing about a month ago to protect my Bianchi San Remo.
The annoying thing is that I use to have a Squire Gold? Paramount but that
was recently stolen with my unlocked Marin from our back garden.
Toby

Toby Sleigh ([email hidden]) wrote:
: I've just tried this on my Kryptonite Evolution 2000. Once I'd found the
: right type of biro ( 5 mins ) it took about 20 secs to open using a free
: charity biro. i.e Fairly thin walled to get into cylinder. Only bought the
: thing about a month ago to protect my Bianchi San Remo.
: The annoying thing is that I use to have a Squire Gold? Paramount but that
: was recently stolen with my unlocked Marin from our back garden.

I've got a Kryptonite EV disk lock for my motorbike which is meant to be
'Sold Secure' approved but I've heard it can be opened as mentioned above.
Not a happy bunny.
Blair.

On 14 Sep 2004 14:27:07 +0100, [email hidden] (B.G. Finlay

IT Services) said:

'Sold Secure' approved

"Sold Secure" is rubbish as a recommendation. I don't know how they
actually do test things, but it's clearly not adequate.

"Colin Boyd" <""coboyd\"@(none)> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=66128

I haven't verified this myself, but many apparently have.

There is an interesting article on lockpicking on howstuffworks.com
Apologies if this appears twice as I am having problems since changing isp.
cheers
Graham

Toby Sleigh said:

Quoted message said:

I've just tried this on my Kryptonite Evolution 2000. Once I'd found the
right type of biro ( 5 mins ) it took about 20 secs to open using a free
charity biro. i.e Fairly thin walled to get into cylinder. Only bought the
thing about a month ago to protect my Bianchi San Remo.

If it's only a month old I'd take it back to the shop and demand a
refund. If you can open it with a biro then it's clearly not fit for
purpose.
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Andy Dingley said:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:03:34 +0100, Colin Boyd <""coboyd\"@(none)>

Quoted message said:

http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=66128

So what;s the news ? It's a Krypto - they've all (except the New
York) always been rubbish. The lock barrels are bottom-end stuff and
_very_ easy to pick, and the hook-foot models are one of the few bike
locks that still succumb to a screw jack.

Is this good enough reason to return said lock to either shop or
manufacturer? Ie, not fit for purpose?

Quoted message said:

Is this good enough reason to return said lock to either shop or
manufacturer? Ie, not fit for purpose?

Yes! But return it to the retailer if you've got the receipt, the bag it
came in, or a witness who saw you buy it. Absolutely no need to return it
to the manufacturer.

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If it's only a month old I'd take it back to the shop and demand a
refund. If you can open it with a biro then it's clearly not fit for
purpose.
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I intend to.

Toby

Toby Sleigh said:

Quoted message said:

If it's only a month old I'd take it back to the shop and demand a
refund. If you can open it with a biro then it's clearly not fit for
purpose.
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I intend to.

I'd like to be in the shop when you return it. No doubt they won't
believe you when you tell them it's been discovered you can open those
locks with a Biro - the look on their faces when you give them the
demo will be interesting.
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Quoted message said:

Toby Sleigh said:

Quoted message said:

If it's only a month old I'd take it back to the shop and demand a
refund. If you can open it with a biro then it's clearly not fit for
purpose.

I used to be able to open a Citadel (in the days when they cost a fortune
and came with a guarantee) with a plastic test tube.