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  1. "Today, sadly, Mr. Liggett broke the terms of that agreement. When
    David
    Zabriskie had his unfortunate accident today, Phil failed for 40
    seconds
    to put it in the context of whether this would impact Lance Armstrong
    or
    whether Lance Armstrong would would have fallen, or asking what Lance
    Armstrong must be thinking about this accident right that moment."

    When reached for comment, co-commentator Paul Sherwin said, "I had my
    'Lance Stopwatch' going -- it's what we use to help remind us when
    it's
    time to mention Lance again." Continued Sherwin, "When Zabriskie fell,
    Liggett started actually talking about how disastrous it was for the
    rider, instead of -- as is proper -- talking about this would affect
    Lance and how he would no doubt have words of advice on the proper way
    to ride a bicycle for young Zabriskie. When twenty seconds elapsed, I
    signaled to the timer. Then thirty seconds elapsed -- still no
    mention,
    so I made the sign of the Texas Longhorn, the code we use to signal
    that
    we need to immediately divert the conversation toward Armstrong. Still
    nothing."

    Visibly shaken, Sherwin finished, "After forty-five seconds, Phil
    managed to bring the conversation back round to Armstrong, but by then
    it was too late. OLN Security was knocking at the door, ready to
    escort
    Phil from the premises."

    Interviewed in his hotel room in Paris, Liggett looked like a man who
    has lost his best friend. "I'm a huge fan of Armstrong," said Liggett.
    "I haven't pretended to be impartial for years. But between Bob Roll
    and
    that marionette Al Trautwig, our Armstrong-centricism seemed pretty
    well
    covered, and I suppose I briefly let my guard down. I wonder what
    Lance
    Armstrong thinks about that?" Then, realizing the habit of mentioning
    Armstrong even when completely irrelevant was still with him, Liggett
    briefly looked melancholy -- which is the British equivalent of an
    American having a complete nervous breakdown.

    OLN has moved swiftly to replace Liggett, putting former
    color-commentator Al Trautwig in his spot. Said Trautwig regarding his
    promotion, "Lance Armstrong. Lance Lance Lance Armstrong. Armstrong
    Armstrong Lance Lance Lance Lance. Six-time Tour de France winner.
    Lance
    Armstrong Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong."

    "This is going to work out just fine," said the OLN spokesperson.

  2. "Carl Brewer" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    "Today, sadly, Mr. Liggett broke the terms of that agreement. When
    David
    Zabriskie had his unfortunate accident today, Phil failed for 40
    seconds
    to put it in the context of whether this would impact Lance Armstrong
    or
    whether Lance Armstrong would would have fallen, or asking what Lance
    Armstrong must be thinking about this accident right that moment."

    hahahahahah.. nice.. 😉

    cheers,
    GPL

  3. GPLama said:

    "Carl Brewer" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    "Today, sadly, Mr. Liggett broke the terms of that agreement. When
    David
    Zabriskie had his unfortunate accident today, Phil failed for 40
    seconds
    to put it in the context of whether this would impact Lance Armstrong
    or
    whether Lance Armstrong would would have fallen, or asking what Lance
    Armstrong must be thinking about this accident right that moment."

    hahahahahah.. nice.. 😉

    cheers,
    GPL


    could it be...at the time...Phil was tucking into the huge plate of sauerkraut, sausage, potato and bacon , whilst sampling the dessert wines of the Black Forest..he couldnt open his gob in hommage to Lance and DZ's predicament.....Oh TV frontman-famedom is such a fickle place.....especially with those picky North American networks with ever vigilant red necked security ghouls behind every wait-person

  4. Hey, Guys, that was funny. Point well taken.

    But let me give you a similar point of view...that of an American
    watching the same thing.

    You guys probably don't notice this, but my wife and I have thought for
    a couple of years now that Liggett and Sherwin go out of their way to
    give the status of Robbie McEwen and Stuart O'Grady. Even when they
    are not factors in the race. We just thought that this was a natural
    bias of the British announcers to be interested in English-speaking
    riders. But I surmise from this thread that the OLN version of the
    Tour is broadcast in Australia? So this just shows that the announcers
    are giving their audiences what they want. In the case of the
    Americans (who are paying most of the bill for the broadcast), it's
    Lance and the other US riders. But the (much smaller) Aussie
    viewership is being tossed their fare share of bones as well.

    I'd go so far as to say that the coverage given McEwen and O'Grady,
    relative to their relative importance in most of the stages (certainly
    the non-sprint stages) is every bit as proportional to that of
    Armstrong, given Armstrong's newsworthiness and the interests of the
    OLN viewership.

    Cheers!

    - Larry W
    Huntington Beach, CA

  5. [email hidden said:

    "]Hey, Guys, that was funny. Point well taken.

    But I surmise from this thread that the OLN version of the
    Tour is broadcast in Australia?

    - Larry W
    Huntington Beach, CA


    Interesting point, is it badge engineering on Phil Liggetts shirt?, have we lost him to commercialism and the multi-networked mega giants of media control...did we ever have him?...oh I am shattered...so there is a hand up his shirt(s)...

    sniff...and we see him at the start of the broadcast (pre-recorded) in our SBS network's garb (nicely ironed too), then we get our own annoying commentator until Phil and Paul take over 2/3rds into the race....it is all so comfy.....such shocking revelation to my naivety ... or is that "evian"ity........you mean we DO GET OLN down under ? , can we sell our annoying commentator to them?

    Just when I thought we had no idea what Phil was saying to the rest of the world about Stuey and Robbie, and Brad, and Mathew, and Alan, and Baden, and Simon, and Cadel, and Luke and Michael, he is shown to be a stooge for the multi-networks...darn our secret self promo business is out....😉

  6. rooman said:

    Interesting point, is it badge engineering on Phil Liggetts shirt?, have we lost him to commercialism and the multi-networked mega giants of media control...did we ever have him?...oh I am shattered...so there is a hand up his shirt(s)...

    sniff...and we see him at the start of the broadcast (pre-recorded) in our SBS network's garb (nicely ironed too), then we get our own annoying commentator until Phil and Paul take over 2/3rds into the race....it is all so comfy.....such shocking revelation to my naivety ... or is that "evian"ity........you mean we DO GET OLN down under ? , can we sell our annoying commentator to them?

    Just when I thought we had no idea what Phil was saying to the rest of the world about Stuey and Robbie, and Brad, and Mathew, and Alan, and Baden, and Simon, and Cadel, and Luke and Michael, he is shown to be a stooge for the multi-networks...darn our secret self promo business is out....😉

    has anyone noticed the canned cheering, horn tooting etc? It's particularly noticeable in the long open sections of road where the spectators are thinner on the ground (ie none!!)- it's an audio loop!

    I have also noticed Phil's voice in the background providing "other" commentary when Paul Sherwin is on the SBS mike.

  7. rooman said:

    Interesting point, is it badge engineering on Phil Liggetts shirt?, have we lost him to commercialism and the multi-networked mega giants of media control...did we ever have him?...oh I am shattered...so there is a hand up his shirt(s)...

    sniff...and we see him at the start of the broadcast (pre-recorded) in our SBS network's garb (nicely ironed too), then we get our own annoying commentator until Phil and Paul take over 2/3rds into the race....it is all so comfy.....such shocking revelation to my naivety ... or is that "evian"ity........you mean we DO GET OLN down under ? , can we sell our annoying commentator to them?

    Just when I thought we had no idea what Phil was saying to the rest of the world about Stuey and Robbie, and Brad, and Mathew, and Alan, and Baden, and Simon, and Cadel, and Luke and Michael, he is shown to be a stooge for the multi-networks...darn our secret self promo business is out....😉

    How about we all keep quiet, just in case they decide it's time to bring back Hodgo for 3 hours of mispronunciations and self indulgence every night.

  8. Quoted message said:

    Hey, Guys, that was funny. Point well taken.

    But let me give you a similar point of view...that of an American
    watching the same thing.

    You guys probably don't notice this, but my wife and I have thought for
    a couple of years now that Liggett and Sherwin go out of their way to
    give the status of Robbie McEwen and Stuart O'Grady. Even when they
    are not factors in the race. We just thought that this was a natural
    bias of the British announcers to be interested in English-speaking
    riders. But I surmise from this thread that the OLN version of the
    Tour is broadcast in Australia? So this just shows that the announcers
    are giving their audiences what they want. In the case of the
    Americans (who are paying most of the bill for the broadcast), it's
    Lance and the other US riders. But the (much smaller) Aussie
    viewership is being tossed their fare share of bones as well.

    I'd go so far as to say that the coverage given McEwen and O'Grady,
    relative to their relative importance in most of the stages (certainly
    the non-sprint stages) is every bit as proportional to that of
    Armstrong, given Armstrong's newsworthiness and the interests of the
    OLN viewership.

    Larry, you're almost on the money!

    But ... P&P talk up anyone English speaking, in the following
    order - Anyone British (Today, David Millar finished 176th!),
    and then Lance, and then anyone else colonial.

    The great saving grace is that Miller got busted so at least they
    talk about other riders - although Sherwin still tries to
    get a Miller Angle into every stage at some point.

    For what it's worth, that piece wasn't a complaint, just a
    bit of humour about it. They say a lot of funny and
    clever and well informed things, and they let fly with a lot
    of clangers too. Live TV is like that, that's what makes it
    good.

    Remember there's 10 Australian riders in this year's
    tour, and 8 yanks, that's a very significant percentage of
    the field, especially when many of those riders are
    having real impact on the race. O'Grady's worn yellow,
    and been *so* close to winning the green it's not funny,
    and he remains a chance for stage wins in the hillier
    stages, McEwen's obviously a serious contender, Cooke
    is basically the only one who's almost completely AWOL.
    McGee's won stages and is a possible stage winner,
    Mick Rogers, as world ITT champion 2 years in a row is
    also a significant rider, Cadel Evans has come close to winning
    the Giro, he held the leaders jersey there for a few days at the
    sharp end of the race in 2003 I think? They're all genuine
    riders with real chances of winning stages and jerseys either now
    or in the near future. And .. they speak English, which helps a
    bit 🙂

  9. Shabby said:

    How about we all keep quiet, just in case they decide it's time to bring back Hodgo for 3 hours of mispronunciations and self indulgence every night.


    you're right...at first I thought it WAS Hodgo doing the intro commentary, but no, they managed to find another one at/for SBS to do like mispronunciations and disjointed bits......

    shhhhhhhhhhhh!

  10. Shabby said:

    How about we all keep quiet, just in case they decide it's time to bring back Hodgo for 3 hours of mispronunciations and self indulgence every night.

    Maybe next year we need to get a group together to do commentary and stream it live to the web,

  11. Shabby said:


    How about we all keep quiet, just in case they decide it's time to
    bring back Hodgo for 3 hours of mispronunciations and self indulgence
    every night.

    I reckon Hodge was pretty hard done by. He's actually not a bad
    speaker. I went to the BV Tour breakfast last year where he was
    the guest speaker, and he was good. The problem he had
    with the last few year's coverage was that he had nothing to
    talk about except to answer dumb questions from that
    clueless soccer bloke to fill time in. It didn't work,
    but that wasn't really his fault. It was funny early on when
    there were some Greek hooligans letting off smoke
    flares beside the race and Hodge expressed displeasure at
    it and the soccer idiot called it 'passion', as if being a
    [censored] was somehow a feature! I was hoping Hodge would
    punch him at that stage, no such luck, alas ...

    As to mispronunciations, has anyone kept tabs on P&P?
    very creative at times, I'm waiting for Robbie to be pronounced
    Rhooobyer or something!

  12. warrwych said:


    I have also noticed Phil's voice in the background providing "other" commentary when Paul Sherwin is on the SBS mike.

    i think that may be the usual mobbie conversations or Phil 'feeding' Paul the usual stats, etc as you cant be looking/reading everything at once

  13. PiledHigher said:

    Maybe next year we need to get a group together to do commentary and stream it live to the web,

    hehe. Roy&HJ-style

    we could start a campaign to have a stage go thru Bonbeach 😄

    or a regualr segment of food eaten 'on the hoof'

    Sponsored by GOAT, of course 🙄

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