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  1. Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  2. "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    In the slo-mo replay, it looks like the hand.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael said:

    "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    In the slo-mo replay, it looks like the hand.

    I dunno. The ones I saw didn't show the nearby PMU hands moving at all,
    and contact with 200 pounds of rider and bike at 70 km/h should move it
    a lot.

    Hushovd himself says it was probably a camera.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  4. Ryan Cousineau said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object
    embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting to hit
    the thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_pm&prov=getty

  5. "WeaselPoopPower" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand
    in front of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting
    to hit the thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_pm&prov=getty

    He already has blood on his leg. I'd say he was cut before
    this pic was taken.

  6. Michael said:

    "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    In the slo-mo replay, it looks like the hand.

    Dumbass -

    In the blow up slow mo replay you can see his arm hit a blurry silver
    object and the blurry silver object goes flying. His arm hits the hand
    after that.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  7. WeaselPoopPower said:


    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object
    embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting to hit
    the thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_pm&prov=getty

    No way. He'd already been struck. What you think is a metal object is
    far too obscure to identify. It looks like blurred backround colors to
    me.

    How on earth does a piece of foam slash one's arm like that? The only
    foam THAT dangerous is on the space shuttle.

  8. Kurgan Gringioni a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    Michael said:

    "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?


    In the slo-mo replay, it looks like the hand.

    Dumbass -

    In the blow up slow mo replay you can see his arm hit a blurry silver
    object and the blurry silver object goes flying. His arm hits the hand
    after that.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.


    WOW !
    What a discovery !!
    You figure it changed something ?
    more electrons floating wildly ?
    How is the mirror doing ?

  9. "WeaselPoopPower" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object
    embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting to hit the
    thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_pm&prov=getty

    You're probably correct.

    What really stands out to me, though, is the number of people in the crowd
    using digital cameras held out in the path of the oncoming riders. They're
    staring at the LCD screens, which are probably just a bit less than usable
    in the bright sunlight, hoping for what -- a blurry snapshot? And why, to
    prove they were there? They have no idea how close the object in their LCD
    screen actually is and they have absolutely no situational awareness.

    Bunch of goddamned idiotsl

  10. Quoted message said:
    WeaselPoopPower said:

    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object
    embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting to hit
    the thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_pm&prov=getty

    No way. He'd already been struck.

    Could be... I'm not CSI certified in the affects of 40mph arm gashes
    during full on 200% physical effort.

    Quoted message said:

    What you think is a metal object is
    far too obscure to identify. It looks like blurred backround colors to
    me.

    Not the background as it's reflecting a highlight. The arm is showing a
    shadow directly relation to the object. The hand is very much in a
    holding position relative to the object.

    Quoted message said:


    How on earth does a piece of foam slash one's arm like that? The only
    foam THAT dangerous is on the space shuttle.

    Speaking of reading press releases... PMU hand = not foam
    The tour banned the hands from the final 200k because they are cardboard
    and plastic, are dangerous and have been complained about by sprinters
    for several years.

    Any better Videos or pics online yet?

    Was Zapruder there and the UCI has already buried the tape because it
    revealed a blood pump?

  11. Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Michael said:

    "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    In the slo-mo replay, it looks like the hand.

    Dumbass -

    In the blow up slow mo replay you can see his arm hit a blurry silver
    object and the blurry silver object goes flying. His arm hits the hand
    after that.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

    Whatever it is, do you think the Tour requires HIV tests?
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tour06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/tour06/tour061/DCS_4677

    EEEEEW.

  12. On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:13:11 -0500, WeaselPoopPower <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Speaking of reading press releases... PMU hand = not foam
    The tour banned the hands from the final 200k because they are cardboard
    and plastic, are dangerous and have been complained about by sprinters
    for several years.

    Any better Videos or pics online yet?

    Was Zapruder there and the UCI has already buried the tape because it
    revealed a blood pump?

    When you have the Dutch Mafia and their hooks into televised European
    bicycle racing and all things Jeff Jones, who needs Zapruder? It was a
    Shaeffer Touchdown fountain pen, fully extended, cleverly disguised by
    a camera that turned into a Green Hand.

    Details have already been snapped up by some Brit writing for Mystery
    Theater, so you'll have to wait for the complete story, to be shown in
    2007 on MPT. Unless Jeff climbs out from under the thumb of the DM.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  13. Curtis L. Russell said:

    Unless Jeff climbs out from under the thumb of the DM.

    I categorically deny any ownership of CN or the hacks who write for it.

    DM

  14. Ryan Cousineau said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael said:

    "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed
    Hushovd reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand in front
    of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    In the slo-mo replay, it looks like the hand.

    I dunno. The ones I saw didn't show the nearby PMU hands moving at all,
    and contact with 200 pounds of rider and bike at 70 km/h should move it
    a lot.

    Hushovd himself says it was probably a camera.

    I normally try to avoid pissing matches, but what the heck, this is RBR!

    In the slow-motion enlarged view, it looked like something (camera?)
    struck Hushovd's *helmet* as his head clearly (to me) bounced aside a
    bit, *followed* by the hand striking his arm (when we see his arm glance
    aside).

    Just another point of view.

    Mark

  15. Sandy said:

    How is the mirror doing ?

    Dumbass -

    Yep.

    Pantani = loser

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  16. Mark said:


    In the slow-motion enlarged view, it looked like something (camera?)
    struck Hushovd's *helmet* as his head clearly (to me) bounced aside a
    bit, *followed* by the hand striking his arm (when we see his arm glance
    aside).

    My view was pretty much the same. You can definitely see the camera (?)
    getting knocked loose but it looked like it hit his helmet, not his arm.

    Thor himself seems to think it was a PMU hand and has accepted an
    apology and a gift from PMU officials. Also the wound was described as
    a 5cm slash, in contrast to the "hole" mentioned earlier.

    Outside of RBR there doesn't seem to be much interest in any detective
    work about this.

  17. On 07/03/2006 12:54 PM, in article
    [email hidden],

    Quoted post said:


    WeaselPoopPower said:


    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object
    embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting to hit
    the thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_p
    m&prov=getty

    No way. He'd already been struck. What you think is a metal object is
    far too obscure to identify. It looks like blurred backround colors to
    me.

    How on earth does a piece of foam slash one's arm like that? The only
    foam THAT dangerous is on the space shuttle.

    Cardboard, not foam. Have you not been paying attention to Bob and Al?

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael said:

    "WeaselPoopPower" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Why is the reliable Mr. Liggett claiming on OLN just now that the mighty
    Thor was laid low by a PMU hand?

    The worst part was that he was talking over a replay which showed Hushovd
    reacting to some fairly firm blow, while the PMU hand
    in front of him moves _not at all_.

    Didn't you get the overnight press releases, Phil?

    This shot almost looks like the exact point of impact: green object
    embedded firmly in bicep, blood streaking on arm just starting
    to hit the thigh, and appears to be turning away from boards.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-hushovd_1_54_52_
    pm&prov=getty

    He already has blood on his leg. I'd say he was cut before
    this pic was taken.

    Agreed. And I don't see the "green object embedded firmly in bicep"
    either.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  19. Who cares what he hit, move those people back & no one will have to
    wonder.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MyPostingID said:

    Who cares what he hit, move those people back & no one will have to
    wonder.

    Dumbass: the rbr knitting circle and kaffeklatsch has nothing better to
    occupy itself with. We've already solved the doping problem in this
    sport, and Les Earnest got USPRO fixed.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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