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  1. There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Photography is a perfectly valid topic for the newsgroup but there are a
    lot of us who simply don't know what a UV filter is and, quite frankly,
    aren't interested. Any chance? Come on Paul - set an example - get it
    established.

    --
    Michael Farthing
    Aardvark Ltd

  2. Michael Farthing <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Photography is a perfectly valid topic for the newsgroup but there are a
    lot of us who simply don't know what a UV filter is and, quite frankly,
    aren't interested. Any chance? Come on Paul - set an example - get it
    established.


    Yes, it's a nuisance having to read a couple of posts before killing a
    thread...
    --
    Gordon

  3. In Article <[email hidden]>,Michael Farthing

    Quoted message said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Fine idea and one I'm sure has been suggested in the past. Even as a
    photographer I find some of the photographic discussion boring at times, but
    the problem is the threads that start on-topic and drift into photography or
    something else somewhere along the way, instead of new threads being
    started.

    Having said that I just posted to a thread entitled "Cameras Again", so I do
    think people are trying.

    Regards,
    Richard G.

  4. Michael Farthing said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Photography is a perfectly valid topic for the newsgroup but there are a
    lot of us who simply don't know what a UV filter is and, quite frankly,
    aren't interested. Any chance? Come on Paul - set an example - get it
    established.

    I posted a photo topic the other week and put PHOTO. It's even more
    obvious what that is about, no chance of confusion with Public House.
    Although I'm in the photography group I can see that not everybody is
    happy to discus ad infinitum the merits of f stops, Photoshop, Nikon
    vs Canon sensors et al, and would happily comply if it became the
    norm.

    Perhaps we should have a GEAR section too, so we can tell Martin to
    filter all those threads relating to buying stuff.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  5. "Michael Farthing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports have
    TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of those who
    do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Photography is a perfectly valid topic for the newsgroup but there are a
    lot of us who simply don't know what a UV filter is and, quite frankly,
    aren't interested. Any chance? Come on Paul - set an example - get it
    established.

    --
    Michael Farthing
    Aardvark Ltd

    But surely in a very busy newsgroup, there are a lot of topics discussed
    that don't interest everybody, and if I find one, I just mark it as read and
    move onto the next one. Perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone could
    include the general subject matter in the title of their new topics, then we
    could all make an informed choice on whether to read it or not - oh, hang
    on... they do already!

    By the way, you may find the following link useful ;-)

    http://www.photo.net/equipment/filters/

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Michael Farthing
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Photography is a perfectly valid topic for the newsgroup but there are
    a lot of us who simply don't know what a UV filter is and, quite
    frankly, aren't interested. Any chance? Come on Paul - set an example
    - get it established.

    It is often remarked about the frequency of Photography threads drifted
    or otherwise and in similar vein GPS threads.

    The membership of the NG is not static and as far as GPS is concerned
    new users frequently need to ask questions which may be boring to the
    "experts". We have to put up with these threads so perhaps "Novice GPS
    "could be included in the title -- or something like that.
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  7. In message <[email hidden]>, Woollyzone
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    But surely in a very busy newsgroup, there are a lot of topics discussed
    that don't interest everybody, and if I find one, I just mark it as read and
    move onto the next one. Perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone could
    include the general subject matter in the title of their new topics, then we
    could all make an informed choice on whether to read it or not - oh, hang
    on... they do already!

    Indeed, but the problem is training the machine to do all that work for
    you.
    That's the purpose of the convention.

    --
    Michael Farthing
    Aardvark Ltd

  8. In Article <[email hidden]>,"W. D. Grey"

    Quoted message said:


    It is often remarked about the frequency of Photography threads drifted
    or otherwise and in similar vein GPS threads.

    I'm now wondering how long it will take for this thread to drift into a
    discussion about photography!! I think we all know it's inevitable 😉

    Regards,
    Richard G.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Richard G.

    URL: said:

    In Article <[email hidden]>,"W. D. Grey"

    Quoted message said:


    It is often remarked about the frequency of Photography threads
    drifted or otherwise and in similar vein GPS threads.

    I'm now wondering how long it will take for this thread to drift into a
    discussion about photography!! I think we all know it's inevitable 😉

    The simplest solution is to encourage people who regularly read this
    newsgroup to use newsreaders that support proper threading and
    filtering. That way you can simply ignore all those threads you don't
    want to follow.

    Mike <URL:http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~mrc7/>
    --
    o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark
    <\__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing,
    "> || _`\<,_ |__\ \> | immunology lecturer, antibody engineer and
    ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user"

  10. Phil Cook said:

    I posted a photo topic the other week and put PHOTO. It's even more
    obvious what that is about, no chance of confusion with Public House.

    Absolutely. The abbreviation PH is already allotted, and is sacred!
    --
    R
    o
    o
    n
    e
    y

  11. Quoted message said:

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Or PS ?

    Note "this is a public forum and posts are not directed at any specific
    individual". Usually.

    Always assume a smiley :-)

    --
    Boo

  12. Quoted message said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    I thought it was for the benefit of people who only wanted to read the
    on-topic stuff instead of the uk.shopping posts ? :-)

    --
    Boo

  13. Boo said:
    Quoted message said:

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Or PS ?

    Note "this is a public forum and posts are not directed at any
    specific individual". Usually.

    Always assume a smiley :-)

    For "Photo Shop" obviously 🙂

    --

    Don`t Worry, Be Happy

    Sandy
    --

    E-Mail:- [email hidden]
    Website:- http://www.ftscotland.co.uk
    Looking for a webhost? Try http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=2966019

  14. Following up to Michael Farthing

    Quoted message said:

    Photography is a perfectly valid topic for the newsgroup but there are a
    lot of us who simply don't know what a UV filter is and, quite frankly,
    aren't interested.

    Cant say i'm much interested either, although I tend to rely on
    what gets said here to keep me up to date, such things get
    discussed a lot on photography groups, (cameras). The chat here
    is sometimes of landscape photography, which I do find
    interesting.

    Quoted message said:

    Any chance? Come on Paul - set an example - get it
    established.

    sounds like good idea to me.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  15. Sandy Birrell said:
    Boo said:
    Quoted message said:

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Or PS ?

    Note "this is a public forum and posts are not directed at any
    specific individual". Usually.

    Always assume a smiley :-)

    For "Photo Shop" obviously 🙂

    We decided a while back that PS should /really/ stand for Paul
    Saunders. Photoshop being one of his favourite topics. :-)
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  16. "Michael Farthing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In message <[email hidden]>, Woollyzone
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    But surely in a very busy newsgroup, there are a lot of topics discussed
    that don't interest everybody, and if I find one, I just mark it as read
    and
    move onto the next one. Perhaps it would be a good idea if everyone could
    include the general subject matter in the title of their new topics, then
    we
    could all make an informed choice on whether to read it or not - oh, hang
    on... they do already!

    Indeed, but the problem is training the machine to do all that work for
    you.
    That's the purpose of the convention.

    --
    Michael Farthing
    Aardvark Ltd

    Ok, great idea!

    Just to be clear though, what prefix do the conventions state that I should
    I use if I wish to discuss, say, porridge? I need to be clear on this to
    avoid any newsgroup faux-pas-ery.

  17. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    There is a widely observed custom in this newsgroup that Trip Reports
    have TR included at the start of the subject line for the benefit of
    those who do not want to read these.

    What chance of a similar custom for photography? I'm suggesting PH.

    Seconded.

    --
    "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is
    probably the day that they start making vacuum cleaners."
    --Doc in alt.privacy

  18. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    I do
    think people are trying.


    Aren't they just...
    --
    "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is
    probably the day that they start making vacuum cleaners."
    --Doc in alt.privacy

  19. In article <[email hidden]>, Richard G.
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I'm now wondering how long it will take for this thread to drift into a
    discussion about photography!! I think we all know it's inevitable 😉

    Let's "snap" out of it at once.
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  20. I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
    from Phil Cook contained the following:

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps we should have a GEAR section too, so we can tell Martin to
    filter all those threads relating to buying stuff.

    Not sure about that, but GPS might be a good idea.

    --
    Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
    It's only Usenet, no one dies.
    My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
    Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

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