Petrol Price Gloat

PiledHigher said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a winge about it.

That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago.

Glad I live within cycling distance of work and in an area with public transport.

I think we will see some significant upheavels in the next 5 to 10 years.

Good to hear I'm not the only one feeling a little smug!

Gee, an unrenewable fossil fuel costing almost as much as bottled water or milk? heaven forbid.... 🙄

It's a pity all we're hearing is [censored] and demands for removal of taxes. The only positive thing I've seen is an automotive column starting to talk about more fuel efficient cars - 'bout bloody time after guzzling 4wds, falcons and rx8s...

While acknowledging that increased prices always bite (be that at the bowser or passed on in product price increases), I'm kind of enjoying the challenge it puts to me, and looking forward to running more errands by bike. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that there'll be muchly [censored] and weasling out of it before people/business starts to be creative and find new solutions... But I must admit it's been an interesting critical mass in the last few weeks with fuel prices combined with media around CBD congestion in Melbourne. One day they'll connect the dots and come up with a little pedal machine...

PiledHigher <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a
winge about it.

That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from
the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday
morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no
public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago.

Glad I live within cycling distance of work and in an area with public
transport.

I think we will see some significant upheavels in the next 5 to 10
years.

I agree but spare a thought for those in regional areas that do not have
access to particlularly effective (read any) public transport. I
doesn't help that in those same areas councils and others are only just
waking up to the need to plan for active (peds and cyclists) and public
transport access to new development. And guess what -- it's too late in
a lot of place (thank goodness for river banks).

Cheers

Brett, Gavin etc

"PiledHigher" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a
winge about it.

That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from
the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday
morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no
public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago.

Glad I live within cycling distance of work and in an area with public
transport.

I think we will see some significant upheavels in the next 5 to 10
years.

--
PiledHigher

I was thinking that myself. One story was about how a guy and his wife were
gaving a child and as they were becoming a family, thought that a 4WD would
the be "perfect vehicle", because it does, of course, take a 2600kg vehicle
to adequately carry a newborn child. Now due to the outrageous petrol price
rises, the poor darlings have been forced to consider a conventional car.
(pause for gasps of horror)

Won't somebody think of the children?

eddiec said:

Good to hear I'm not the only one feeling a little smug!

Gee, an unrenewable fossil fuel costing almost as much as bottled water or milk? heaven forbid.... 🙄

It's a pity all we're hearing is [censored] and demands for removal of taxes. The only positive thing I've seen is an automotive column starting to talk about more fuel efficient cars - 'bout bloody time after guzzling 4wds, falcons and rx8s...

While acknowledging that increased prices always bite (be that at the bowser or passed on in product price increases), I'm kind of enjoying the challenge it puts to me, and looking forward to running more errands by bike. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that there'll be muchly [censored] and weasling out of it before people/business starts to be creative and find new solutions... But I must admit it's been an interesting critical mass in the last few weeks with fuel prices combined with media around CBD congestion in Melbourne. One day they'll connect the dots and come up with a little pedal machine...

The sad reality is that people will [censored] and moan about fuel prices but will still fill up the Landcruiser and still drive to the shop in the next street.

SteveA

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 at 10:09 GMT, PiledHigher (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a
winge about it.

My talk back commetary
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/journal/index.cgi?050412.001113301944

🙂

I don't think I am cynical enough 🙂

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 at 10:28 GMT, Resound (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

I was thinking that myself. One story was about how a guy and his wife were
gaving a child and as they were becoming a family, thought that a 4WD would
the be "perfect vehicle", because it does, of course, take a 2600kg vehicle
to adequately carry a newborn child. Now due to the outrageous petrol price
rises, the poor darlings have been forced to consider a conventional car.
(pause for gasps of horror)

Won't somebody think of the children?

I found a tabloid rag on the floor of the men's room today (fitting
place for it, really?). The front page headline read something like
"But who will look after the kids?".

I don't know why that line came into my head.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Just don't create a file called -rf. :-)
-- Larry Wall in <[email hidden]>

Brett????? said:

I agree but spare a thought for those in regional areas that do not have
access to particlularly effective (read any) public transport. I
doesn't help that in those same areas councils and others are only just
waking up to the need to plan for active (peds and cyclists) and public
transport access to new development.

Waking Up?
Wow, you must live in an enlightened area. Here in Campbelltown, NSW and
surrounds we have so much of what the first poster spoke of, that I
thought he might have been a local ([censored] {:-) - about the facitlities).

Given an offer to help fund a bicycle track beside the railway line to
join the Liverpool to Parramatta cycle path, our twits competed to see
who could laugh and make the silliest statement for the newspapers.

OTH, they were also recently funded for line making (add a bike stencil
every 500 metres and it is a bicycle lane) and bridge widening for a
"bicycle path" on the DOWNHILL side only.

TimC said:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 at 10:09 GMT, PiledHigher (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a
winge about it.

My talk back commetary
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/journal/index.cgi?050412.001113301944

🙂

I don't think I am cynical enough 🙂

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.

I hadn't seen that "$220 to fill up the Prado" figure (how big is the bloody tank???), but I had heard the fear-inducing claim that "it will cost the average family an extra $40 a week for petrol"... $40?? That's pretty much our entire fuel budget for the week! Someone out there is using my quota clearly...

(OT - What ever happened to LPG? I've made a mental note of looking for the little red stickers the last few days and I've seen bugger all vehicles (excluding taxis) that use them anymore - Even most vans and trade vehicles seem to be petrol.... You'd think with the bargain basement price of LPG people would be going that way... )

Eddie(riding's free - so now can I buy that roadie?)c

TimC said:

My talk back commetary
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/journal/index.cgi?050412.001113301944

I hope you watched the first part of Grumpy Old Men at 8pm on ABC TV
tonight {:-).

eddiec said:

I hadn't seen that "$220 to fill up the Prado" figure (how big is the bloody tank???), but I had heard the fear-inducing claim that "it will cost the average family an extra $40 a week for petrol"... $40?? That's pretty much our entire fuel budget for the week! Someone out there is using my quota clearly...

Mine too, my car has a 42 litre tank! petrol prices will have to double for it to cost me another $40.

$40 per week, that's my monthly fuel budget!

Terry Collins said:

I hope you watched the first part of Grumpy Old Men at 8pm on ABC TV
tonight {:-).

Taped it by accident! Gold!

Say it loud & proud, I'm a grumpy old man!

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Quoted message said:

Waking Up?
Wow, you must live in an enlightened area. Here in Campbelltown, NSW
and surrounds we have so much of what the first poster spoke of, that
I thought he might have been a local ([censored] {:-) - about the
facitlities).

Given an offer to help fund a bicycle track beside the railway line to
join the Liverpool to Parramatta cycle path, our twits competed to see
who could laugh and make the silliest statement for the newspapers.

OTH, they were also recently funded for line making (add a bike
stencil every 500 metres and it is a bicycle lane) and bridge widening
for a "bicycle path" on the DOWNHILL side only.

Waking up does not equal "doing".

Somebody probably said that once.

Pathetic isn't.

Cheers

Brett

SteveA said:

The sad reality is that people will [censored] and moan about fuel prices but will still fill up the Landcruiser and still drive to the shop in the next street.

I cycle commute 200km/week but drive my car 1km to the shops.
Too close to ride for the hassle of helmet & lock, too heavy to walk.
I need a shopping stroller?

That said, if I don't have interstate bike races a tank lasts for weeks.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 at 13:34 GMT, aeek (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

SteveA said:

The sad reality is that people will [censored] and moan about fuel prices but
will still fill up the Landcruiser and still drive to the shop in the
next street.

I cycle commute 200km/week but drive my car 1km to the shops.
Too close to ride for the hassle of helmet & lock, too heavy to walk.

What?! But not too slow to unlock the doors, start the engine,
navigate out through your gates, find a car parking spot on the other
side of the parking lot compared to the shop doors, walk to the
entrance, and then repeat in reverse?

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
All theoretical chemistry is really physics; and all theoretical
chemists know it.
-- Richard P. Feynman

TimC said:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 at 13:34 GMT, aeek (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

What?! But not too slow to unlock the doors, start the engine,
navigate out through your gates, find a car parking spot on the other
side of the parking lot compared to the shop doors, walk to the
entrance, and then repeat in reverse?

precisely, no gates, easy parking. And late all the bike locking entrances are shut; oh, and I wouldn't want to leave my lights on the bike, more hassle.
Come to that, the car is just a car. The bike is irreplaceable.

PiledHigher said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a winge about it.

That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago.

Glad I live within cycling distance of work and in an area with public transport.

I think we will see some significant upheavels in the next 5 to 10 years.

'Petrol prices to hit $5". Now there is a headline i shall savour 😄

remember during the second bombing of Irag (Clinton's one) how the bike storage at work almost doubled in the space of a week. perhaps BV should start buying stealth bombers 😄 😄

PiledHigher said:

So petrol is hitting a $1.20 a litre, every second ACA & TT story is a
winge about it.

That 'bargain' house and land package just 30 minutes (& 50k's) from
the city on the freeway (at 3am monday morning & 90min's weekeday
morning) is not sounding like such a bargain. And of course there's no
public transport, it was a farm 5 years ago.

Glad I live within cycling distance of work and in an area with public
transport.

I think we will see some significant upheavels in the next 5 to 10
years.

It isn't just cars that use fuel. Think of aircraft, ships, trucks, trains. They all use fuel.

So when the price of fuel goes up, everyone pays because the cost of just about everything goes up to
compensate.

aeek said:

precisely, no gates, easy parking. And late all the bike locking
entrances are shut; oh, and I wouldn't want to leave my
lights on the bike, more hassle.
Come to that, the car is just a car. The bike is irreplaceable.

First shag?

Seriously, that is why you have a second, third, fourth.... bike. You
always need one old the clunker that you can ride to the shops or leave
locked to the railway station fence, etc.

Dave said:

It isn't just cars that use fuel. Think of aircraft, ships, trucks, trains. They all use fuel.

So when the price of fuel goes up, everyone pays because the cost of just about everything goes up to
compensate.

Planes could use a rubberband like my balsawood model when i was a kid 😄 ( images of hippy going OS on the 'tricksta-assassin )
ships can use solar/sails like the new scandinavian shipping liners

Trucks, well...

Trains are 'relatively' efficient and would negate the need for much longdistance trucking

and we could stop importing so much and thus reliant on so much transport and return to the village model we left behind and negate the need for 'sea-changing' as it would be in our backyard already!

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