Perth cyclist killed after being hit by a car.

[cyclist2]

cyclist2 wrote:

>
> Whats the rule when crossing a intersection to continue on a bike path
> with a cross walk?.
> Do cyclist have right of way or have to dismount and walk with bike
> accross the cross walk to rejoin cycle path? hope this makes sence

As I understand the law, shared paths end at all intersections. Unless
the crosswalk or pedestrian crossing has a bicycles light as well as a
pedestrian light, cyclists must dismount before crossing *between the
dashed lines*. They must also wait for the light to turn green before
walking across.

That's what we all do.
;-)

--
BrettS

T Thanks

 

[hemyd]

"Theo Bekkers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jono L wrote:
>> Another 4WD, another death.
>
> Another stupid statement. The 82 year old guy was walking his bike across
> Tonkin Hwy against the red light.
>
> Theo
>
Completely unrelated to the fact he was a cyclist or who hit him, I feel
sorry for the old buggers.

Henry.

 

[Tamyka Bell]

BrettS wrote:
>
> Marty wrote:
> > Heard on the ABC radio today that an elderly male cyclist was killed
> > today whilst crossing a road with his bike. Only details known are that
> > it was a four wheel drive and the police don't think it was speeding.
> >
> > Marty
>
> I saw it on the news. According to an eyewitness the 'cyclist' (who was
> apparently an 89 y.o. man) was attempting to push his bike across Tonkin
> Highway despite facing a red light. According to the witness, he
> started walking across, then realized he had to hurry and started to
> 'run'.
>
> The skid marks from the 4WD (A Nissan Patrol) started about where the
> stop line is and went all the way across the intersection, veering from
> the left lane into the right lane where it collided with the cyclist
> (who will be classified as a pedestrian)
>
> A rather fatal error in judgment.
>
> --
> BrettS

A bit OT, but...

In the past week I have had four incidents of having to stop at a green
light while some ****** drove through his/her red light into my path.
(No, I am not talking about trucks that entered the intersection on
orange but took a long time to get through, I'm talking dickheads that
deliberately ran red lights.)

On one occasion, I had to honk, because the guy in the car next to me
went to take off as soon as it was green - didn't check the intersection
was clear.

How are these people getting licences? No wonder there's so many deaths
on the road.

Tam

 

[cyclist2]

BrettS wrote:
>
> Marty wrote:
> > Heard on the ABC radio today that an elderly male cyclist was killed
> > today whilst crossing a road with his bike. Only details known are that
> > it was a four wheel drive and the police don't think it was speeding.
> >
> > Marty
>
> I saw it on the news. According to an eyewitness the 'cyclist' (who was
> apparently an 89 y.o. man) was attempting to push his bike across Tonkin
> Highway despite facing a red light. According to the witness, he
> started walking across, then realized he had to hurry and started to
> 'run'.
>
> The skid marks from the 4WD (A Nissan Patrol) started about where the
> stop line is and went all the way across the intersection, veering from
> the left lane into the right lane where it collided with the cyclist
> (who will be classified as a pedestrian)
>
> A rather fatal error in judgment.
>
> --
> BrettS

A bit OT, but...

In the past week I have had four incidents of having to stop at a green
light while some ****** drove through his/her red light into my path.
(No, I am not talking about trucks that entered the intersection on
orange but took a long time to get through, I'm talking dickheads that
deliberately ran red lights.)

On one occasion, I had to honk, because the guy in the car next to me
went to take off as soon as it was green - didn't check the intersection
was clear.

How are these people getting licences? No wonder there's so many deaths
on the road.

Tam

Tam pretty much sums up allot of drivers and more often than not there texting/talking on the mobile phone and its geting worse every day

 

[dave]

Tamyka Bell wrote:
> BrettS wrote:
>
>>Marty wrote:
>>
>>>Heard on the ABC radio today that an elderly male cyclist was killed
>>>today whilst crossing a road with his bike. Only details known are that
>>>it was a four wheel drive and the police don't think it was speeding.
>>>
>>>Marty
>>
>>I saw it on the news. According to an eyewitness the 'cyclist' (who was
>>apparently an 89 y.o. man) was attempting to push his bike across Tonkin
>>Highway despite facing a red light. According to the witness, he
>>started walking across, then realized he had to hurry and started to
>>'run'.
>>
>>The skid marks from the 4WD (A Nissan Patrol) started about where the
>>stop line is and went all the way across the intersection, veering from
>>the left lane into the right lane where it collided with the cyclist
>>(who will be classified as a pedestrian)
>>
>>A rather fatal error in judgment.
>>
>>--
>>BrettS
>
>
> A bit OT, but...
>
> In the past week I have had four incidents of having to stop at a green
> light while some ****** drove through his/her red light into my path.
> (No, I am not talking about trucks that entered the intersection on
> orange but took a long time to get through, I'm talking dickheads that
> deliberately ran red lights.)
>
> On one occasion, I had to honk, because the guy in the car next to me
> went to take off as soon as it was green - didn't check the intersection
> was clear.
>
> How are these people getting licences? No wonder there's so many deaths
> on the road.
>
> Tam

We did a toy run this morning. I watched a p plater in a wrx.. stop
for the red light at a set of ped lights.. wait for the 2 peds to cross
then drive off thru the red light. This in very heavy traffic

Dave

 

[cyclist2]

Tamyka Bell wrote:
> BrettS wrote:
>
>>Marty wrote:
>>
>>>Heard on the ABC radio today that an elderly male cyclist was killed
>>>today whilst crossing a road with his bike. Only details known are that
>>>it was a four wheel drive and the police don't think it was speeding.
>>>
>>>Marty
>>
>>I saw it on the news. According to an eyewitness the 'cyclist' (who was
>>apparently an 89 y.o. man) was attempting to push his bike across Tonkin
>>Highway despite facing a red light. According to the witness, he
>>started walking across, then realized he had to hurry and started to
>>'run'.
>>
>>The skid marks from the 4WD (A Nissan Patrol) started about where the
>>stop line is and went all the way across the intersection, veering from
>>the left lane into the right lane where it collided with the cyclist
>>(who will be classified as a pedestrian)
>>
>>A rather fatal error in judgment.
>>
>>--
>>BrettS
>
>
> A bit OT, but...
>
> In the past week I have had four incidents of having to stop at a green
> light while some ****** drove through his/her red light into my path.
> (No, I am not talking about trucks that entered the intersection on
> orange but took a long time to get through, I'm talking dickheads that
> deliberately ran red lights.)
>
> On one occasion, I had to honk, because the guy in the car next to me
> went to take off as soon as it was green - didn't check the intersection
> was clear.
>
> How are these people getting licences? No wonder there's so many deaths
> on the road.
>
> Tam

We did a toy run this morning. I watched a p plater in a wrx.. stop
for the red light at a set of ped lights.. wait for the 2 peds to cross
then drive off thru the red light. This in very heavy traffic

Dave

Dave i am not supprised at this type of behavour!
With the amount of coppers set to leave the service, and a small recuting number,things will get scarier on the cycling journey

 

[Marty]

dave wrote:
> Tamyka Bell wrote:
>
>> BrettS wrote:
>>
>>> Marty wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heard on the ABC radio today that an elderly male cyclist was killed
>>>> today whilst crossing a road with his bike. Only details known are that
>>>> it was a four wheel drive and the police don't think it was speeding.
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>> I saw it on the news. According to an eyewitness the 'cyclist' (who was
>>> apparently an 89 y.o. man) was attempting to push his bike across Tonkin
>>> Highway despite facing a red light. According to the witness, he
>>> started walking across, then realized he had to hurry and started to
>>> 'run'.
>>>
>>> The skid marks from the 4WD (A Nissan Patrol) started about where the
>>> stop line is and went all the way across the intersection, veering from
>>> the left lane into the right lane where it collided with the cyclist
>>> (who will be classified as a pedestrian)
>>>
>>> A rather fatal error in judgment.
>>>
>>> --
>>> BrettS
>>
>>
>>
>> A bit OT, but...
>>
>> In the past week I have had four incidents of having to stop at a green
>> light while some ****** drove through his/her red light into my path.
>> (No, I am not talking about trucks that entered the intersection on
>> orange but took a long time to get through, I'm talking dickheads that
>> deliberately ran red lights.)
>>
>> On one occasion, I had to honk, because the guy in the car next to me
>> went to take off as soon as it was green - didn't check the intersection
>> was clear.
>>
>> How are these people getting licences? No wonder there's so many deaths
>> on the road.
>>
>> Tam
>
>
> We did a toy run this morning. I watched a p plater in a wrx.. stop
> for the red light at a set of ped lights.. wait for the 2 peds to cross
> then drive off thru the red light. This in very heavy traffic
>
> Dave

I remember a few years ago someone poured some oil at the stop lights
(we only have one set of stoplights in my town) and someone spun their
wheels up to the stop lights, stopped, and then continued spinning their
wheels throught the lights.
The police charged them with wreckless driving, but because they had
demonstrated that they had paused at the traffic lights it showed they
were in control of the vehicle and they escaped punishment.

Marty

 

[DD]

Marty wrote:
>
> I remember a few years ago someone poured some oil at the stop lights
> (we only have one set of stoplights in my town) and someone spun their
> wheels up to the stop lights, stopped, and then continued spinning their
> wheels throught the lights.
> The police charged them with wreckless driving, but because they had
> demonstrated that they had paused at the traffic lights it showed they
> were in control of the vehicle and they escaped punishment.
>
> Marty

Slightly off topic but re traffic lights. I don't know if Collie really
needed those traffic lights or they're just there for Christmas
decorations but it is a shame that the country towns are getting big
enough out here, or the traffic heavy enough, that it justifies signals.
Fifteen years ago you could leave Perth and not have to cycle through
another traffic light until halfway through South Australia, then first
Northam then Kalgoorlie broke the magic.