Perhaps he went a bit too far.....

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188

"It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
time – it could have been a lot worse."

I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
home because their bikes had been crushed.

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188

"It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
time - it could have been a lot worse."

I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
home because their bikes had been crushed.

They could have gone home on the bus. :o)

Tom Crispin said:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188

"It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
time – it could have been a lot worse."

I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
home because their bikes had been crushed.

They're only students. Don't worry about them, they breed worse than
rabbits.

Tom Crispin said:

I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
home because their bikes had been crushed.

worse they are to walk to a police station, collect the mangled metal
& carry it away :

"All the damaged bikes were taken to Fratton Police Station where the
owners can go to claim them."

but I'm not sure about the headline :

"Lorry careers out of control in city centre"
surely it's the driving jobs that are out of control & not the careers

Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote:
| On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>
| wrote:
|
| >http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188
|
| "It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
| time \266 it could have been a lot worse."
|
| I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
| Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
| home because their bikes had been crushed.

It seems that Tom Crispin of indeterminate age thinks traffic is
motorists, not a thought for the cyclists who were caught up in the
"chaos".

A bit of chaos would be fun occasionally; it's never quite that bad.
In fact it's almost always confined to two-plus-epsilon dimensions,
which makes it very ordered indeed.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:11:43 +0000 (UTC),
[email hidden] (Geraint Jones)

Quoted message said:

Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote:
| On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>
| wrote:
|
| >http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188
|
| "It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
| time \266 it could have been a lot worse."
|
| I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
| Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
| home because their bikes had been crushed.

It seems that Tom Crispin of indeterminate age thinks traffic is
motorists, not a thought for the cyclists who were caught up in the
"chaos".

Tom Crispin doesn't believe that Lucy Haley (50) had cyclists in mind
when she expressed sympathy for those caught in traffic. He considers
one of the joys of cycling to be the ability to avoid traffic chaos,
even if that requires a short dismount and push around the obstruction
while fuming motorists look enviously on.

Quoted message said:

A bit of chaos would be fun occasionally; it's never quite that bad.
In fact it's almost always confined to two-plus-epsilon dimensions,
which makes it very ordered indeed.

Tom Crispin said:

Tom Crispin doesn't believe that Lucy Haley (50) had cyclists in mind
when she expressed sympathy for those caught in traffic. He considers
one of the joys of cycling to be the ability to avoid traffic chaos,
even if that requires a short dismount and push around the obstruction
while fuming motorists look enviously on.

Tom Crispin is sounding very much like a Harry Potter house elf.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:11:43 +0000 (UTC),
[email hidden] (Geraint Jones)

Quoted message said:

Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote:
| On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>
| wrote:
|
| >http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188
|
| "It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
| time \266 it could have been a lot worse."
|
| I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
| Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
| home because their bikes had been crushed.

It seems that Tom Crispin of indeterminate age thinks traffic is
motorists, not a thought for the cyclists who were caught up in the
"chaos".

Tom Crispin doesn't believe that Lucy Haley (50) had cyclists in mind
when she expressed sympathy for those caught in traffic. He considers
one of the joys of cycling to be the ability to avoid traffic chaos,
even if that requires a short dismount and push around the obstruction
while fuming motorists look enviously on.

Which just goes to say that we cyclists do not need her (allegedly)
unproffered sympathy. So why worry about it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A bit of chaos would be fun occasionally; it's never quite that bad.
In fact it's almost always confined to two-plus-epsilon dimensions,
which makes it very ordered indeed.

I certainly had fun during the fuel protect, whilst everyone else was
fretting about running out of petrol.

David Lloyd

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:11:43 +0000 (UTC),
[email hidden] (Geraint Jones)

Quoted message said:

Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> wrote:
| On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:28:34 GMT, "Ian D Henden" <[email hidden]>
| wrote:
|
| >http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth-and-southsea?articleid=3126188
|
| "It was causing chaos for the traffic, but at least it wasn't peak
| time \266 it could have been a lot worse."
|
| I note that it's the motorist who gets the sympathy of fifty year old
| Lucy Haley, not a thought for the poor cyclists who would have to walk
| home because their bikes had been crushed.

It seems that Tom Crispin of indeterminate age thinks traffic is
motorists, not a thought for the cyclists who were caught up in the
"chaos".

Tom Crispin doesn't believe that Lucy Haley (50) had cyclists in mind
when she expressed sympathy for those caught in traffic. He considers
one of the joys of cycling to be the ability to avoid traffic chaos,

Surely the cyclists would avoid the traffic chaos if the cyclists were on
cycle paths?

Quoted message said:

even if that requires a short dismount and push around the obstruction
while fuming motorists look enviously on.

Quoted message said:

A bit of chaos would be fun occasionally; it's never quite that bad.
In fact it's almost always confined to two-plus-epsilon dimensions,
which makes it very ordered indeed.

Ian D Henden said:

Surely the cyclists would avoid the traffic chaos if the cyclists were
on cycle paths?

Yebbut we prefer using the bus lanes to p**s off the bus drivers ;-)

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

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Quoted message said:

Ian D Henden said:

Surely the cyclists would avoid the traffic chaos if the cyclists were
on cycle paths?

Yebbut we prefer using the bus lanes to p**s off the bus drivers ;-)

^
You omitted an "ab".

Ian D Henden said:

Quoted message said:

Yebbut we prefer using the bus lanes to p**s off the bus drivers ;-)

^
You omitted an "ab".

No I didn't - they are nearly all cycle lanes too so use is the correct
word.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

David Lloyd said:

I certainly had fun during the fuel protect, whilst everyone else was
fretting about running out of petrol.

But the fuel crisis affects cyclists too!
I was worried about how the lorrys would get the jaffa cakes to the
supermarket.

...d

David Martin said:

David Lloyd said:

I certainly had fun during the fuel protect, whilst everyone else was
fretting about running out of petrol.

But the fuel crisis affects cyclists too! I was worried about how
the lorrys would get the jaffa cakes to the supermarket.

By rail as freight should be carried.

Chris
--
Chris Eilbeck