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  1. Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

  2. Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    The 1000 free points one?

    What I find interesting is that according to the summary at the top of
    the message I somehow seem to have a negative balance. Not sure how
    that's possible.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    There is a rumor that the company is being packaged for sale to... the same
    folk who just purchased Cannondale. Rumor only at this stage.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

  4. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain.  Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11?  Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines.  Are they having cash flow problems?  Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    There is a rumor that the company is being packaged for sale to... the same
    folk who just purchased Cannondale.

    With Cannondale and Schwinn as "house brands" . Wow.......

    Quoted message said:

    Rumor only at this stage.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.
    --
    "The road to hell is paved with convenient shortcuts."
    --Peter da Silva

  6. "Ben Pfaff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.
    --
    "The road to hell is paved with convenient shortcuts."
    --Peter da Silva

    Where us that???

    Bruce

  7. Ben Pfaff said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.
    --
    "The road to hell is paved with convenient shortcuts."
    --Peter da Silva

    OTOH, they just opened one a few miles from me (in Dublin, Calif.).

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.
    --
    "The road to hell is paved with convenient shortcuts."
    --Peter da Silva

    Where us that???

    We're losing one here in Redwood City. Not real happy about that. I'd rather
    see them stay in town, and keep more cycling money "local." My first choice
    would be to have a store as close as possible to one. Could always be one of
    those "be careful what you wish for" things though! :>😉

    So far, we've outlasted quite a number of bike shops in the area. That's
    unfortunate; well-run bike shops support cycling and increase the popularity
    of the activity. If enough shops close, support could fall below the level
    where cycling is something convenient, and then even the remaining stores
    see declines in sales.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

    "Bruce Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Ben Pfaff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.
    --
    "The road to hell is paved with convenient shortcuts."
    --Peter da Silva

    Where us that???

    Bruce

  9. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    There is a rumor that the company is being packaged for sale to... the same
    folk who just purchased Cannondale. Rumor only at this stage.

    Eurrgh...

    Su-perf-bar-go-dale? [1]

    Sounds like a new yuppie candy bar, I mean, energy bar.

    Pat

    [1] Sugoi, Performance, Nashbar, Supergo, Cannondale

  10. "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    We're losing one here in Redwood City. Not real happy about that. I'd
    rather see them stay in town, and keep more cycling money "local." My
    first choice would be to have a store as close as possible to one. Could
    always be one of those "be careful what you wish for" things though!
    :>😉

    The Redwood City Performance store has been terrible for 10 years or more.
    If it was an independent store, it would have gone out of business long ago.
    Their stock is terrible; only a fraction of what is in the catalog or most
    independent shops. Stuff in their sale fliers was rarely in stock at the
    store. The Performance store down the street in Mountain View is much
    better, though that one has gone sharply downhill since Performance took it
    over from Supergo.

    To me, Performance stores in general don't make a lot of sense. Their
    catalog might work because of the wide variety of products they sell.
    However, if the stores carry only a fraction of the selection, what's the
    point? If I want a part today, I'll just go to an indepent store that is
    more likely to have it in stock.

  11. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.

    Where us that???

    We're losing one here in Redwood City. Not real happy about that. I'd rather
    see them stay in town, and keep more cycling money "local."
    [...]

    It's not all bad for you, Mike: now that the Performance Bike is
    gone, your Redwood City store is the closest bike shop to me, so
    you'll get at some minor boost in business. Not that I spend a
    whole lot, but...
    --
    "To the engineer, the world is a toy box full of sub-optimized and
    feature-poor toys."
    --Scott Adams

  12. Quoted message said:

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    We're losing one here in Redwood City. Not real happy about that. I'd
    rather see them stay in town, and keep more cycling money "local." My
    first choice would be to have a store as close as possible to one. Could
    always be one of those "be careful what you wish for" things though!
    :>😉

    The Redwood City Performance store has been terrible for 10 years or more.
    If it was an independent store, it would have gone out of business long
    ago.
    Their stock is terrible; only a fraction of what is in the catalog or most
    independent shops. Stuff in their sale fliers was rarely in stock at the
    store. The Performance store down the street in Mountain View is much
    better, though that one has gone sharply downhill since Performance took
    it
    over from Supergo.

    To me, Performance stores in general don't make a lot of sense. Their
    catalog might work because of the wide variety of products they sell.
    However, if the stores carry only a fraction of the selection, what's the
    point? If I want a part today, I'll just go to an indepent store that is
    more likely to have it in stock.

    I couldn't understand why they kept Performance and got rid of the Supergo
    name. The Supergo customers were looking for cheap stuff and didn't expect
    service. Their expectations were generally met, and some of the Supergo
    stores were even staffed fairly well. Performance, on the other hand, has
    always pushed their service as one of the big attractions, and has generally
    failed in that regard. Thus their customer's expectations weren't being met.
    I think Supergo really could have taken off. How this opportunity was missed
    might be an interesting story.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Wouldn't surprise me if they're having cash flow problems:
    they're closing my local store.
    --
    "The road to hell is paved with convenient shortcuts."
    --Peter da Silva

    OTOH, they just opened one a few miles from me (in Dublin, Calif.).

    But they're not opening the 80-100/year they said they'd be doing when they
    obtained all that VC money a few years back. The plan (at that time) was to
    open enough that they would attain a sort of critical mass, at which point,
    when people would think of a bike shop, they'd think of Performance, not the
    IBD (independent bicycle dealer) down the road. That would give them the
    muscle they need to obtain a strong bike line, or perhaps even develop their
    own, with credibility simply due to high visibility. It would also allow
    them to market more efficiently through non-enthusiast channels (newspapers,
    non-cycling magazines etc), something that's beyond the capabilities of the
    IBD or even the bike companies themselves.

    But it never happened. Something changed, and rather quietly. There's very
    little buzz about Performance on the various IBD e-lists.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  14. Quoted message said:

    Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Fiscal year just ended $14mil shy of the business plan and that probably
    doesn't make the new investors happy. The old Supergo stores are failing.
    Gary is out as CEO.

  15. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Fiscal year just ended $14mil shy of the business plan and that probably
    doesn't make the new investors happy. The old Supergo stores are failing.
    Gary is out as CEO.

    Where does this information come from? Is there something on the 'net?

    Thanks-

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  16. "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?

    Fiscal year just ended $14mil shy of the business plan and that probably
    doesn't make the new investors happy. The old Supergo stores are


    failing.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Gary is out as CEO.

    Where does this information come from? Is there something on the 'net?

    Thanks-

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    Uh, "Someone I know" works at the Chapel Hill office

  17. The benefit of a Performance store is that you can order catalog items
    at the sale price and save on shipping. Most LBS's stock very little
    and o course can order things but at the inflated prices they normally
    charge!!!! If there were more Nashbar ,Performance, Supergo' esque
    stores I bet more people would enjoy cycling

    sally said:

    ">
    The Redwood City Performance store has been terrible for 10 years or more. 
    If it was  an independent store, it would have gone out of business longago.  
    Their stock is terrible; only a fraction of what is in the catalog or most
    independent shops.  Stuff in their sale fliers was rarely in stock at the
    store.  The Performance store down the street in Mountain View is much
    better, though that one has gone sharply downhill since Performance took it
    over from Supergo.

    To me, Performance stores in general don't make a lot of sense.  Their
    catalog might work because of the wide variety of products they sell.  
    However, if the stores carry only a fraction of the selection, what's the
    point?  If I want a part today, I'll just go to an indepent store that is
    more likely to have it in stock.

  18. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Last night's "Special!" email from PerfBike tickled something in my
    brain. Why are they so desperately seeking business that has to hit
    the bank by February 11? Not exactly one of the traditional financial
    deadlines. Are they having cash flow problems? Anyone here know the
    inside skinny on Performance?


    I have been buying from them online for a couple years. The Internet has
    changed everything, and some businesses have been slow to focus on the new
    consumer reality. My own buying habits have changed over the years, to the
    point that I would rather buy online, than in brick and mortar retail
    stores. I can find exactly what I need online. I will pay shipping if
    necessary, and I often save sales tax, which here in Chicago is I think
    8.25%, not a small amount on a large purchase.

    There is a new PerfBike retail store in my area. Their bike mechanics are
    OK. Their sales floor staff is mostly clueless, but I expect that from
    retail stores these days. But they have leased a lot of footage.

    The challenge for PerfBike, is to meld their online business, with their
    retail stores. This is not a simple task. And they need to first figure out,
    who their target customer is. I don't think they have a clear view of who
    their target customer is, and how best to serve him.

    All I need from a LBS is bike repair. Stores which devote a great deal of
    floor space to showing and selling bikes, are doomed.

    I

  19. Jay said:

    The challenge for PerfBike, is to meld their online business, with their
    retail stores. This is not a simple task....

    They've made at least one good move on that front in the last few
    months, offering free ship-to-store service (which I've found nice at
    REI for a years now).

    This helps alleviate the problem of the store not having the same
    stuff the web site offers, as well as the shipping cost thing.

  20. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Jay said:

    The challenge for PerfBike, is to meld their online business, with their
    retail stores. This is not a simple task....

    They've made at least one good move on that front in the last few
    months, offering free ship-to-store service (which I've found nice at
    REI for a years now).

    This helps alleviate the problem of the store not having the same
    stuff the web site offers, as well as the shipping cost thing.


    Yes, I have also used ship-to-store. I bought my Sidi shoes like that. They
    need to do more of that kind of thing.

    REI has also opened a new retail store in my area. I made a $100 purchase
    at their grand opening, mostly OR stuff. It was raining that winter day, so
    I had all my rain / cold weather bike gear on. The sales people knew right
    away, I was not just browsing.

    J.

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