Pennine Way Fly-Over

Black Hill is a particularly heavily paved part - I had a bit of a rant
about it here

http://www.davidgibbins.btinternet.co.uk/daytwo.htm

Dont forget the Pennine Way's birthday this Sunday!

David

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"Gordon Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just to draw your attention to the May Issue of Country Walking, which
contains a free DVD giving a fly-over of the Pennine Way.

I have watched the 4 minute fly-over, and part of the 45 minute fly-over,
and find it worthwhile for the scenery covered, and an overview of the
route.
You can always turn the commentary/music down!

My first reaction was surprise at seeing just how many of the boggy parts
have been paved, but the scars remain alongside....

I find the magazine much improved of late, but no doubt some will think it
lacks street cred. ;-)
--
Gordon Harris

Pennineway <[email hidden]> writes

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Black Hill is a particularly heavily paved part - I had a bit of a rant
about it here

http://www.davidgibbins.btinternet.co.uk/daytwo.htm

Having once visited Black Hill, up to my knees, I have no objection to
being taken on a magic carpet ride over it!

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Dont forget the Pennine Way's birthday this Sunday!

David

Indeed.
One point was that the DVD commentary mentions Tom Stephenson as the
instigator of the PW, but Wainwright's book gives the impression that AW
devised the route. It left me puzzled.....
--
Gordon Harris

Gordon Harris said:

Pennineway <[email hidden]> writes

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Black Hill is a particularly heavily paved part - I had a bit of a rant
about it here

http://www.davidgibbins.btinternet.co.uk/daytwo.htm

Having once visited Black Hill, up to my knees, I have no objection to
being taken on a magic carpet ride over it!

And it means that the peat is left for the rest of us to enjoy....

Good move, although I was taken aback when I first saw it.... On a
trip to Norway, taking off from Manchester.

Richard Webb

AW did devise some variations on the route, some of which are still in use
today. The route in use today differs quite a lot from Tom Stephensons
original .

Wainwright clearly gives credit to Tom Stephenson in the introduction to his
book, Wainwright on the Pennine Way. He also says of its
opening in 1965 "Tom Stephenson ... was present on the occasion, his
imaginative conception realised at last. He had
served the cause of walkers well. The Pennine Way is his memorial."

Wainwright himself wasn't greatly fond of the Pennine Way. He said in his
Pennine Way Companion "You won't come across me anywhere along the Pennine
Way. I've had enough of it." His own experiences of the walk included
getting stuck in a bog up to his waist on Black Hill - he had to be pulled
out by a passing National Park warden!

Are you thinking of the Coast to Coast walk, which was obviously all AW's
work?

David

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Pennineway <[email hidden]> writes

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Black Hill is a particularly heavily paved part - I had a bit of a rant
about it here

http://www.davidgibbins.btinternet.co.uk/daytwo.htm

Having once visited Black Hill, up to my knees, I have no objection to
being taken on a magic carpet ride over it!

Quoted message said:

Dont forget the Pennine Way's birthday this Sunday!

David

Indeed.
One point was that the DVD commentary mentions Tom Stephenson as the
instigator of the PW, but Wainwright's book gives the impression that AW
devised the route. It left me puzzled.....
--
Gordon Harris

David Gibbins <[email hidden]> writes

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Wainwright himself wasn't greatly fond of the Pennine Way. He said in his
Pennine Way Companion "You won't come across me anywhere along the Pennine
Way. I've had enough of it." His own experiences of the walk included
getting stuck in a bog up to his waist on Black Hill - he had to be pulled
out by a passing National Park warden!

Are you thinking of the Coast to Coast walk, which was obviously all AW's
work?

David

No, it was remembering the first(?) book Wainwright wrote: "A Pennine
Journey" which made me think that he had devised the whole route.
He shambled along that in a mackintosh and a pair of shoes which wore
out!

The Coat to Coast would be a much pleasanter prospect for me, if I had
thought about it when I was younger, or the Dales Way, much of which I
have walked as circular day walks.

In fact, I think that the best way to enjoy the Pennine Way is in this
manner, much of it is dreary and too boggy to be enjoyable. (IMO, of
course).
--
Gordon Harris

"Gordon Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The Coat to Coast would be a much pleasanter prospect for me, if I had
thought about it when I was younger, or the Dales Way, much of which I
have walked as circular day walks.

In fact, I think that the best way to enjoy the Pennine Way is in this
manner, much of it is dreary and too boggy to be enjoyable. (IMO, of
course).

Just got the DVD - looks good. The boggy bits were the challenge! Now it all
seems to be paved.....Eeeee, in my day, etc. I preferred the West Highland
Way. Shorter, more dramatic and not so macho. The Pennine Way just HAS to go
over every high point there is, which is not good if you're carrying a tent,
a Zenit E and a zoom lens about a foot long made out of lead (which all
cameras were of course when I were a lad).

Graham

Graham Seed said:

"Gordon Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The Coat to Coast would be a much pleasanter prospect for me, if I had
thought about it when I was younger, or the Dales Way, much of which I
have walked as circular day walks.

In fact, I think that the best way to enjoy the Pennine Way is in this
manner, much of it is dreary and too boggy to be enjoyable. (IMO, of
course).

Just got the DVD - looks good. The boggy bits were the challenge! Now it all
seems to be paved.....Eeeee, in my day, etc. I preferred the West Highland
Way. Shorter, more dramatic and not so macho. The Pennine Way just HAS to go
over every high point there is, which is not good if you're carrying a tent,
a Zenit E and a zoom lens about a foot long made out of lead (which all
cameras were of course when I were a lad).

Graham

Graham Seed <[email hidden]> writes

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Just got the DVD - looks good. The boggy bits were the challenge! Now it all
seems to be paved.....Eeeee, in my day, etc. I preferred the West Highland
Way. Shorter, more dramatic and not so macho. The Pennine Way just HAS to go
over every high point there is, which is not good if you're carrying a tent,
a Zenit E and a zoom lens about a foot long made out of lead (which all
cameras were of course when I were a lad).

Graham

I had one of those Zeniths I think, with the Leica lens thread....
--
Gordon Harris

Gordon Harris said:

David Gibbins <[email hidden]> writes

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Wainwright himself wasn't greatly fond of the Pennine Way. He said in his
Pennine Way Companion "You won't come across me anywhere along the Pennine
Way. I've had enough of it." His own experiences of the walk included
getting stuck in a bog up to his waist on Black Hill - he had to be pulled
out by a passing National Park warden!

Are you thinking of the Coast to Coast walk, which was obviously all AW's
work?

David

No, it was remembering the first(?) book Wainwright wrote: "A Pennine
Journey" which made me think that he had devised the whole route.

"A Pennine Journey" is a very different route from the PW though.

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Simon Caldwell <[email hidden]> writes

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Gordon Harris said:

David Gibbins <[email hidden]> writes

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Wainwright himself wasn't greatly fond of the Pennine Way. He said in his
Pennine Way Companion "You won't come across me anywhere along the Pennine
Way. I've had enough of it." His own experiences of the walk included
getting stuck in a bog up to his waist on Black Hill - he had to be pulled
out by a passing National Park warden!

Are you thinking of the Coast to Coast walk, which was obviously all AW's
work?

David

No, it was remembering the first(?) book Wainwright wrote: "A Pennine
Journey" which made me think that he had devised the whole route.

"A Pennine Journey" is a very different route from the PW though.

I'll see if the book is still in the local library. :-)
My daughters bought me his PW guide some years back, saying that: "we
thought you ought to do it". I was unsure of their motives, getting
me off their backs for a few weeks, perhaps.
--
Gordon Harris

A Pennine Journey is a completely different walk to the Pennine Way and was
'devised' by Wainwright
in 1938 (it was really just a description of a circular walk he had done) -
you can read a bit about it here:-

http://www.wainwright.org.uk/events/2005/pennine_journey.html

Some of it did become incorporated into the Pennine Way at a later date,
though, I dont know whether by coincidence or design.

David

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Gordon Harris said:

David Gibbins <[email hidden]> writes

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Wainwright himself wasn't greatly fond of the Pennine Way. He said in his
Pennine Way Companion "You won't come across me anywhere along the
Pennine
Way. I've had enough of it." His own experiences of the walk included
getting stuck in a bog up to his waist on Black Hill - he had to be
pulled
out by a passing National Park warden!

Are you thinking of the Coast to Coast walk, which was obviously all AW's
work?

David

No, it was remembering the first(?) book Wainwright wrote: "A Pennine
Journey" which made me think that he had devised the whole route.

"A Pennine Journey" is a very different route from the PW though.

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I had one of those Zeniths I think, with the Leica lens thread....
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Yep, that was the one. Taught me all I don't know about photography! I think
I took a variety of lens, one of which was this humongous 210mm zoom. I had
to drop it off half way through the walk due to exhaustion.

Graham

Graham Seed <[email hidden]> writes

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"Gordon Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I had one of those Zeniths I think, with the Leica lens thread....
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Yep, that was the one. Taught me all I don't know about photography! I think
I took a variety of lens, one of which was this humongous 210mm zoom. I had
to drop it off half way through the walk due to exhaustion.

Graham

I think mine was a 130mm, and what a brilliant idea making a camera out
of shiny silver stuff! I see that most digi cameras seem to be
silver, but I curse mine every time I try to photograph birds just
outside the window, and get the camera reflected. :-(
--
Gordon Harris

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I see that most digi cameras seem to be silver, but I curse mine every
time I try to photograph birds just outside the window, and get the
camera reflected. :-(

Invite them in for the photo shoot ;-)

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Dominic Sexton

Dominic Sexton <[email hidden]> writes

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In article <[email hidden]>, Gordon Harris
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I see that most digi cameras seem to be silver, but I curse mine every
time I try to photograph birds just outside the window, and get the
camera reflected. :-(

Invite them in for the photo shoot ;-)

Wrong kind of birds. ;-)
--
Gordon Harris

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Just got the DVD - looks good. The boggy bits were the challenge! Now it all
seems to be paved.....Eeeee, in my day, etc. I preferred the West Highland
Way. Shorter, more dramatic and not so macho.

Yes, and its psychotic section, which Pre WHW days had a Reputation is
well and truely tamed.. As my other half said yesterday - I like paths
like this you can look at th e scenery rather than your footing.

I refer to Loch Lomondside.... Glorious yesterday, primroses out, tree
pipits and a cuckoo as new arrivals and of course there were the
sodding jetskis.

The path was very well done, narrow and comfortable on the feet. There
are still a few square miles of jungle out there for the macho. Try
Beinn Uamha from Loch Arklet, or a wee wander off the road near
Trossachs Pier.

Richard Webb
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Richard Webb said:

I refer to Loch Lomondside.... Glorious yesterday, primroses out, tree
pipits and a cuckoo as new arrivals and of course there were the
sodding jetskis.

If they can put a 10mph limit on Windermere they can bung one on
Lomond.

Primroses out in ELD too. Didn't take any pictures though...

No cuckoos to be heard at Sykeside, but on the way home I saw a pair
of Buzzards using a thermal over the M6 to gain height.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

"Richard Webb" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Yes, and its psychotic section, which Pre WHW days had a Reputation is
well and truely tamed.. As my other half said yesterday - I like paths
like this you can look at th e scenery rather than your footing.

I forgot all about that bit! Ah well, some things are better with a *proper*
path. We had a glorious skinny dipping session at the top end of the loch.
No midges either! Got clobbered at Kingshouse though <shudder.....>

Graham