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  1. This letter turned up in today's local rag:
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    In A recent article about men in uniform, Gill Adams refers to three policemen on "smart push-bikes"
    who flew past her when she was walking down a one-way street.

    Most dictionary definitions confirm that "push-bike" is slang for a pedal cycle.

    It would help restore good journalism and good English if slang terms could be avoided. Our
    beautiful English language already suffers from far too many abominations, such as "cuppa" and
    "pinta" - the products of banal advertising.

    "Push-bike" is a most ridiculous expression. You may push a barrow, a handcart or a pram but you do
    not have to "push" a bicycle unless you dismount. You ride it by sitting on its saddle and rotating
    the pedals.

    "Push-bike" is a derogatory phrase resulting from the snobbish attitude of a bygone section of the
    human race who worshipped the internal combustion engine but hated the pedal cycle - and all who
    chose to ride one.

    Harry P Flynn,

    Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East Riding District Association),

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    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.net

  2. Simon Mason must be edykated coz e writed:

    Quoted message said:

    This letter turned up in today's local rag:
    ------------------

    It would help restore good journalism and good English if slang terms could be avoided. Our
    beautiful English language already suffers from far too many abominations, such as "cuppa" and
    "pinta" - the products of banal advertising.

    Harry P Flynn,

    Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East Riding District Association),


    This dude needs the chil.

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    Ian

    catrike.co.ukcatrike.co.uk

  3. Simon Mason wrote: You may push a barrow, a

    Quoted message said:

    handcart or a pram but you do not have to "push" a bicycle unless you dismount. You ride it by
    sitting on its saddle and rotating the pedals.

    <pedantic> Cranks actually, the pedals rotate as a consequence of rotating the cranks. Simply
    sitting on the machine and roating the pedals is not enough. </pedantic>

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    The Reply & From email addresses are checked rarely.

  4. Simon Mason said:

    "Push-bike" is a derogatory phrase resulting from the snobbish attitude of a bygone section of the
    human race who worshipped the internal combustion engine but hated the pedal cycle - and all who
    chose to ride one.

    This sounds awfully like the "joggers Vs runners" thread that pops up regularly in rec.running. I
    think it says more about size of shoulder chips than anything else.

    I'm happy to be called a jogger who rides a push-bike. Makes no odds to me.

    Tim

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    Remove the obvious to reply by email.

  5. Quoted message said:

    In A recent article about men in uniform, Gill Adams refers to three policemen on "smart
    push-bikes" who flew past her when she was walking


    down

    Quoted message said:

    a one-way street.

    Most dictionary definitions confirm that "push-bike" is slang for a pedal cycle.

    It would help restore good journalism and good English if slang terms


    could

    Quoted message said:

    be avoided. Our beautiful English language already suffers from far too


    many

    Quoted message said:

    abominations, such as "cuppa" and "pinta" - the products of banal advertising.

    "Push-bike" is a most ridiculous expression. You may push a barrow, a handcart or a pram but you
    do not have to "push" a bicycle unless you dismount. You ride it by sitting on its saddle and
    rotating the pedals.

    "Push-bike" is a derogatory phrase resulting from the snobbish attitude of


    a

    Quoted message said:

    bygone section of the human race who worshipped the internal combustion engine but hated the pedal
    cycle - and all who chose to ride one.

    Harry P Flynn,

    Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East Riding District Association),

    Imagine going out for a ride with him!

    I wonder if Harry's had an impact on the membership of the Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East
    Riding District Association). I bet he goes to every meet / club night / club ride etc. etc.

  6. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    You ride it by sitting on its saddle and rotating the pedals.

    You ride it by sitting on the saddle and pushing the pedals with your feet. Rotating the pedals
    makes a nice whizzy noise but doesn't produce much motion - on my bike, at least.

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    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

  7. "Drinky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    snipped

    Quoted message said:


    Imagine going out for a ride with him!

    I wonder if Harry's had an impact on the membership of the Cyclists'


    Touring

    Quoted message said:

    Club (Hull & East Riding District Association). I bet he goes to every


    meet

    Quoted message said:

    / club night / club ride etc. etc.

    LOL. He's probably been a member of Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East Riding District Association)
    for half a century or more with the result that he's the only one left.

    Anyway, at the risk of starting a thread about correct pedalling technique, perhaps someone should
    point out to him that the predominant action when pedalling a bike is 'pushing' on the pedals.
    ___
    Michael MacClancy

  8. Simon Mason tried to scribble ...

    Quoted message said:

    "Push-bike" is a derogatory phrase resulting from the snobbish attitude of a bygone section of the
    human race who worshipped the internal combustion engine but hated the pedal cycle - and all who
    chose to ride one.

    Heheheh, I wonder, does he _really_ think it matters ..

    Quoted message said:

    Harry P Flynn,

    Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East Riding District Association),

    Oh dear .. and his influence on the membership of this particular wing of the CTC is adding _how_
    many new members ?

    😉
    --
    Digweed .... 😉

  9. Drinky said:
    Quoted message said:

    Harry P Flynn,

    Cyclists' Touring Club (Hull & East Riding District Association),

    Imagine going out for a ride with him!


    I don't have 🙂 Don't we all have at least one person like that in our own local Cake & Tea Club?

    --
    Iain Norman | teknohippy.comteknohippy.com

  10. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You ride it by sitting on its saddle and rotating the pedals.

    You ride it by sitting on the saddle and pushing the pedals with your


    feet.

    Quoted message said:

    Rotating the pedals makes a nice whizzy noise but doesn't produce much motion - on my bike,
    at least.

    I was going to point this out, but thinking about it, the pedals *revolve* around the bottom
    bracket and a lot of people don't know the differently between rotate and revolve. Planets rotate
    on their axes, but revolve around the sun.

    Simon

  11. teknohippy said:


    I don't have 🙂 Don't we all have at least one person like that in our own local Cake & Tea Club?

    I would just like to point out that your comments about our own local Cake and Tea Club are just
    another example of the poor standards of English usage in this new fangled internet medium. In the
    first instance the CTC, to use its popular abbrieviated name form, is a national as well as a local
    club and during my participation in their activities I have partaken in addition of both coffee and
    biscuits. I therefore suggest that henceforth it should be known as the multi-regional
    Confectionaries and Beverages Club.

    Yours

    Mrs Trellis North Wales

  12. Snip Snip

    Quoted message said:

    I was going to point this out, but thinking about it, the pedals


    *revolve*

    Quoted message said:

    around the bottom bracket and a lot of people don't know the differently between rotate and
    revolve. Planets rotate on their axes, but revolve


    around

    Quoted message said:

    the sun.

    Simon

    Simon, did Harry tell you to write that? :-)

  13. MSeries said:

    Simon Mason wrote: You may push a barrow, a

    Quoted message said:

    handcart or a pram but you do not have to "push" a bicycle unless you dismount. You ride it by
    sitting on its saddle and rotating the pedals.

    <pedantic> Cranks actually, the pedals rotate as a consequence of rotating the cranks. Simply
    sitting on the machine and roating the pedals is not enough. </pedantic>

    I wonder what he would have to say about the term "Clipless Pedals" ?

    --
    Sig got lost during a reinstall

  14. Simon Mason said:


    I was going to point this out, but thinking about it, the pedals *revolve* around the bottom
    bracket and a lot of people don't know the differently between rotate and revolve. Planets rotate
    on their axes, but revolve around the sun.

    In fact pedals do not rotate at all while pedalling and therefore present continuously one face
    towards the road below. What a revolutionary concept ;-)

    Tony

  15. Tony Raven said:
    teknohippy said:


    I don't have 🙂 Don't we all have at least one person like that in our own local Cake & Tea Club?

    I would just like to point out that your comments about our own local Cake and Tea Club are just
    another example of the poor standards of English usage in this new fangled internet medium. In the
    first instance the CTC, to use its popular abbrieviated name form, is a national as well as a local
    club and during my participation in their activities I have partaken in addition of both coffee and
    biscuits. I therefore suggest that henceforth it should be known as the multi-regional
    Confectionaries and Beverages Club.

    Yours

    Mrs Trellis North Wales


    Crazy foo'! 🙂

    --
    Iain Norman | teknohippy.comteknohippy.com

  16. MSeries said:

    <pedantic> Cranks actually, the pedals rotate as a consequence of rotating the cranks. Simply
    sitting on the machine and roating the pedals is not enough. </pedantic>

    Err, my pedals don't rotate when I ride. They are always oriented the same way.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  17. Quoted message said:

    Heheheh, I wonder, does he _really_ think it matters ..

    As passionately as the chap who posted his objections to the term hybrid being used to
    describe hybrid bikes. Some folk have too much time or their hands or jobs that don't fully
    occupy their minds.

    Besides, Mr. Flynn did not see me and fellow C2C'ers on Crawleyside bank in Stanley - push bike was
    definitely the correct term for us all

  18. Ian Smith said:
    MSeries said:

    <pedantic> Cranks actually, the pedals rotate as a consequence of rotating the cranks. Simply
    sitting on the machine and roating the pedals is not enough. </pedantic>

    Err, my pedals don't rotate when I ride. They are always oriented the same way.

    regards, Ian SMith

    but don't they do rotate 'relative to the cranks' ?

  19. MSeries said:
    Ian Smith said:
    MSeries said:

    <pedantic> Cranks actually, the pedals rotate as a consequence of rotating the cranks. Simply
    sitting on the machine and roating the pedals is not enough. </pedantic>

    Err, my pedals don't rotate when I ride. They are always oriented the same way.

    but don't they do rotate 'relative to the cranks' ?

    If you pick a daft enough frame of reference everything rotates. Windsor Castle rotrates relative to
    teh cranjks, but I wouldn't describe riding the bike as a process of rotating Windsor Castle about
    teh cranks.

    regards, Ian SMith
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    |o o|
    |/ \|

  20. Ian Smith said:


    If you pick a daft enough frame of reference everything rotates. Windsor Castle rotrates relative
    to teh cranjks, but I wouldn't describe riding the bike as a process of rotating Windsor Castle
    about teh cranks.

    I quite like the concept of the Royal Family revolving around my cranks at my behest.

    Unfortunately though there is an absolute reference frame for rotation so you can't really just
    chose any frame of reference.

    Tony

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