pedals for toeclips

Sorry for thread Jack but arent toeclips very dangerous for uni?

--
trials_uni

TRIALS 4 LIFE !

Quoted message said:

<>UNICYCLING FOR MYSLELF<><

'Check Out The Newbie Guide' (http://tinyurl.com/99yez)

koebwil said:

I'm too hardcore to type. I just punch the keyboard and delete the
letters I don't want

w00t...i got reply # 60666 in MR
------------------------------------------------------------------------
trials_uni's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10953
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

crank bros egg beater pedals. much safer than straps!

--
onetrack

"People over here have a dangerous habit of adding quotes to signature
lines."
-Klaas Bil
------------------------------------------------------------------------
onetrack's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6374
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

I'm thinking half-clips (without straps), because that's what the riders
I've seen using clips tend to use. Does that make a difference?

Talking to Sam who rides coker with them, and has hit about 28 miles an
hour without falling off, he says that he falls out of the clips in a
crash just fine. They appear to make him very fast, and stop the
'falling off because you're spinning too fast' crashes.

John who I ride with also has toeclips. He isn't dead.

Do 'these ' (http://tinyurl.com/lmsw2)look like the right sort of
thing?

Joe

--
joemarshall

my pics http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albuq44
------------------------------------------------------------------------
joemarshall's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1545
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

it is possible to ride with clips. it is also very stupid because the
best will fall and eat it hard. if you do try clip pedals set them all
the way loose

--
torkerdx
------------------------------------------------------------------------
torkerdx's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12543
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

joemarshall said:

Do 'these ' (http://tinyurl.com/lmsw2)look like the right sort of
thing?

Joe

They look OK, but they don't have much of a hook on the back to help
you to flip the pedal over so you can get your foot into the clip. I'd
try the MKS MT-LUX COMP 'here'
(http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/acatalog/STANDARD_PEDALS.html) they look
very similar to the Tioga Surefoot VI (which you don't seem to get
anymore) that I used to have on my first MTB back in the day, and they
were really easy to flip over if you ended up on the wrong side. Merlin
have the Surefoot 31 which I think has a plastic body and is generally
a bit rubbish because of that.

One thing to bear in mind is that the cages on pedals like these don't
take kindly to being dropped onto so you may end up going through them.
If you can find pedals with replacement cages that might be cheaper in
the long run , but you'll probably find it difficult/expensive as
everyone uses SPDs these days.

Paul

--
paul royle
------------------------------------------------------------------------
paul royle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5572
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

You might be interested in 'these'
(http://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/trk-acc-02.htm)

[image: http://www.thebikebiz.com/photos/TRK-ACC-02-2T.jpg]

--
DK

i unicycle for satan
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DK's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8054
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

I'm not sure what brand mine are, but they have full plastic clips and
straps. I of course ride with the straps fairly loose, and after an
hour or so of practice had no trouble freemounting into them (though I
haven't been able to "flip" them while riding).

I thought about cutting the clips short and removing the straps, but
decided I like the way it "hugs" my foot. However, half clips are
probably sufficient, as the main advantage to clips I see is that you
eliminate forward foot slippage (where your foot slowly moves forward
from ball to heel). Foot slippage can be aggrevating when you're
trying to keep a high cadence and have to slow down to adjust.

In over two years of use, I've only fallen bad twice (both times within
the first several months, once when setting my personal speed record -
17.2 mph on a skinny 700c wheel). After a while, you learn to upd
safely by pointing your toe to the ground and pulling up and out.

They're definately not for everyone, but I also think they're not as
dangerous as a lot of people think.

--
hell-on-wheel

"...or the confluence of rare meteorological phenomena."
-George Peck
------------------------------------------------------------------------
hell-on-wheel's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3425
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

This was taken upon finishing a two-day, 150 miler:
'pic' (http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery/?g2_itemId=193081)

--
hell-on-wheel

"...or the confluence of rare meteorological phenomena."
-George Peck
------------------------------------------------------------------------
hell-on-wheel's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3425
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

Hi Joe - I'm not dead yet either.

I use normal pinned platform pedals (red ones) - the basic ones from
UDC, and 'half' type plastic toe bumpers. About £6 from a bike shop.
They are the same as Leo's - and misleadingly say 'Elite' on the top.

Compared to Leo's blue 'beartrap' (or 'rat trap' as I've also heard
them called, and reasonably too, as they would surely only catch bears
too small to be morally caught), I prefer my platforms. The rat-traps
seem a little shorter, so the ball of my foot was not quite where I
wanted it over the axle. I find my platforms *much* easier to get in
and out of than the rat-traps - they just feel roomier.

Yes, they do seem to let my feet out without the need for a single
brain-cell to engage, even if in a fast UPD. Which was how I found them
from the very first mount on. They're not scary really. In almost a
year I've never ever had a fast road crash, and feel safe.

I use trainers with very smooth flat soles, without any tread at all -
they are easiest to slip in to the second pedal when doing the little
flipping-over routine on the fly.
I mount with one foot already in, and just let the second foot find the
pedal as normal - it always comes flat side up. Then a few rotations
later, when I'm happy, I take the left foot off for a fraction of a
second (though longer than I first thought) and the weight of the clip
swings the pedal around so I can pop in to the clipped side. It took
hundreds of mounts (most of the way from End to End!) to really get the
knack of that. There were many embraced lampposts along the way. The
remaining flat side of the pedal is still quite ridable on, but mine
overlap the back pins, so don't feel right until I flip them over.

And they still work fine with normal walking sandals. 🙂

Sam

--
redwelly
------------------------------------------------------------------------
redwelly's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4518
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

I put clipless pedals on my Muni once. I didn't really ride any trails
because it was a bit scary, but they were fun to just ride around on. I
wouldn't recomedn doing Muni or trials on them though because you would
probably hurt youself.

--
smcmorrow

\"It's knot gonna make it!\" -snuffiluffigus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
smcmorrow's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10881
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

redwelly said:

Compared to Leo's blue 'beartrap' (or 'rat trap' as I've also heard
them called, and reasonably too, as they would surely only catch bears
too small to be morally caught),

In my day, young man... rat trap pedals were the fairly small light
aluminium pedals used by road cyclists. They were designed to take toe
clips and straps. The name bear trap was then used for the larger,
squarer pedals of similar general construction used by mountainbikers.
The idea being that bears are bigger than rats, presumably.🙂

--
Mikefule

"No one likes circus skills, juggling is dire, and clowns are on
registers at most police stations."
(The late and sadly-missed Linda Smith)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mikefule's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/879
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

DK said:

You might be interested in 'these'
(http://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/trk-acc-02.htm)

[image: http://www.thebikebiz.com/photos/TRK-ACC-02-2T.jpg]

yes they was what i was thinking as soon as someone mentioned clips,
the older style used on racers.

--
zippy

*'Muni time trial weekend.' (http://tinyurl.com/q5z7m) 1st-3rd
September. (NOT 8th - 10th)*
------------------------------------------------------------------------
zippy's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11885
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

I've always been intrigued by the use of toe clips for the uni. There's
something almost perfect about riding when I've got my feet in EXACTLY
the right position on the pedals. But, I'm much to afraid to try it.
I still UPD way to often. Maybe some of the 'clipless' pedals that
require special shoes w/ cleats and set the release tension as loose as
possible? The other option would be platform pedals with all the pins
removed. I was looking for pedals for my mountain bike recently that
would accept toe clips and straps and the LBS told me that the old
style rat-trap pedals are getting hard to find. They did tell me that
the platform pedals will accept the old style toe clips and straps. I
ended up just buying the pinned pedals for my mtn. bike and I kind of
like 'em so that's what I've been riding with.

--
underdog

'I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody
tell you different' - Kurt Vonnegut
------------------------------------------------------------------------
underdog's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6197
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

hi,

i use toe clips like the metal ones above but they are plastic. They
serve me well. i am a pretty good unicyclist and although i am only 16
i have been doing it for some years and have got pretty good. i can do
the basics, stay in one place by moving backwards and forwards, or
jumping, i can move all directions by jumping, easily jump up/down
curbs even twisting 180 degrees going up them.

I also do a lot of bike racing (with 2 wheels), so i have clipless
pedals and shoes for mountain biking (spd). i was wondering if anyone
uses these sorts of pedals and wether or not to try it.

Thanks for reading.

Will Hare

--
will--hare
------------------------------------------------------------------------
will--hare's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12689
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

one of my friends(mango) tolad me that some trialsur was using clipless
pedals and was doing really high hops without his hands. I'm not sure
how they would work for distance riding, they seem kinda dangerous.

--
mornish

Quoted message said:

<>UNICYCLING FOR MYSLELF TOO<><

"LX seats are as comfortable as bricks." lildude2
"CX seats are bricks."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
mornish's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11658
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

in the cycling community unicyclists get a lot of respect, although i
have noticed that elsewhere you do not get so much respect.

As i am a small 16 year old i have many people come and try to make me
fall off, some even resorting to physical violence.

therefore, as i can only train in public places, i think i am going to
stay with open clips and not move to clipless.

does anyone else have these problems of people giving you very little
respect?

--
will--hare
------------------------------------------------------------------------
will--hare's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12689
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

having clips on a bike (i have the "look" cleats) makes it really easy
to bunny hop. i can only imagine what it could do for hopping on a uni
(think jump rope), but it wouldn't be very safe for hopping around in,
I don't think.

--
onelesscar

mmm...i love my qu-ax...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
onelesscar's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11127
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

i also have the "look" but as they only come in single sided pedals and
the cleats are plastic i do not believe that this is as good a system.

by the way top respect for trying with clipless pedals

--
will--hare
------------------------------------------------------------------------
will--hare's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12689
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875

I did some downhill MUni several years ago with a guy who rode with
clips. I never saw the guy fall with his feet stuck to the pedals. I
think I did more watching than riding because it was a long (several
miles) and very rocky trail. He could also jump rope on a giraffe with
his feet clipped in. I don't know what kind of clips he used.

--
Wheel Rider

A man can fail many times but he isn't a failure until he begins to
blame someone else. - Waite Phillips
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wheel Rider's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10656
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/50875