Pedal suggestions, please.

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.

So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?

MKS Sylvan Tour. $25. Light, wide, handsome, classic. Top up with
grease first thing and dial in the bearings. I ride them without
straps on a city bike as they look so nice, but they really pair up
nicely with some chrome clips.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPPDNCMKS/PD4010

Alternately, just get some big pinned bear trap platforms and dispense
with clips and straps. With a Crank Bros 50/50, you'll have support
like standing on an escalator.

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor (quill) pedal nowadays?

I'm having a lot of fun with some excellent low-cost MKS Pedals :

(a) MKS Sylvan Superleggera-style road pedals, from bensbike, at 1/5th
the cost ($21.99). bens is the only shop that offers it in black,
and their vendio storefront has a lower price than their regular web
site. I recommend you buy a lot of these because who knows how much
longer bens will be sourcing these beauties from MKS ??

http://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/item/848441766/index.html

(b) MKS Sylvan 'Lite' pedals with the same weight as campy
super-record or RX-1, but only 1/10th of the cost ($19.99) :

http://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/item/848441972/index.html

This is what I have on my 'weight weenie' asian steel bike which is
< 20 lbs.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA, USA

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
Ron
I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

In article <[email hidden]>,
Hobbes@spnb&s.com says...

Quoted message said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some

experience.

Quoted message said:

UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with

mustache

Quoted message said:

bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.

So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?

Ron
I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

[email hidden] or ebay same guy.

A Muzi said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
Ron
I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
80s. -- Jay Beattie.

Jay Beattie said:

A Muzi said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up withmustache
bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips andstraps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
Ron
I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

Quoted message said:

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
80s. -- Jay Beattie.

All good choices, however; if you plan to run without toe clips, at
all, only the first of the suggestions, the Silvan touring pedal is
symetrical. Why ride a one-sided pedal if you're not going to be
running clips? The bottom side is not particularly comfortable or
safe. YMMV

Phil B

Phil B said:

Jay Beattie said:

On Mar 20, 9:19 pm, A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
> I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
> UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
> bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
> make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
> So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
> Ron
> I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
> So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

Quoted message said:

O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
80s. -- Jay Beattie.

All good choices, however; if you plan to run without toe clips, at
all, only the first of the suggestions, the Silvan touring pedal is
symetrical. Why ride a one-sided pedal if you're not going to be
running clips? The bottom side is not particularly comfortable or
safe. YMMV

Indeed. Also worth considering, is that while the Sylvan Touring is a
fantastic pedal, it does have a limitation of not having support on
the side, so if you want a double sided cage pedal, something like one
of the various "mountain" style Wellgo or Dimension pedals that can
be used with or w/o clips that have a wraparound cage offer more
support. This style used to be be the ubiquitous OEM style that came
on most bikes--at least a cheaper version.

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?

I guess you wouldn't like the ones I use. Union brand, no clip, no
strap, plastic pedals.

vey said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?

I guess you wouldn't like the ones I use. Union brand, no clip, no
strap, plastic pedals.

Well, they don't make suede bucks with spd drillings last I checked.

every artist with a lathe makes pedals. here's part of UV's selection.
I use Nashbar bear traps at $12 with plywood covers for big feeet.
round ends work real good against the road's surface

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=114

RIGHT. over on the bike rack at the superduper here at Terminal
Over the years, MKS occasionally appear on small framed and quite old
'racing bikes'
cream of the crop so to speak. sadly always running on a last gasp of
lube but still tight as a drum.

Universal's supply ahs me stumped. How to tell what from what size
wise. I guess yagotta hunt each one down via the web. I bought a set
with cartridge bearings and quality seals but the dang things were
tiny and went back across. I shuda seen that from the listed weight.

A Muzi said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some
experience.
UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with
mustache
bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and
straps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
Ron
I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me, So, what'd you
expect from a tiger.

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

The MKS pedals are great. I bought some from Sheldon's shop a few years
ago (AR2 quick release). Now Dahon has them as standard equipment on
some models.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
Ron
I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

Quoted message said:

A Muzi said:

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

Jay Beattie said:

O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
80s.

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

A Muzi said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
> I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
> UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
> bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
> make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
> So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
> Ron
> I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
> So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

Quoted message said:

A Muzi said:

MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

Jay Beattie said:

O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
80s.

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

This about the closest thing to a consensus answer I've ever seen around here.
Thanks guys and MKS thanks you all.

Ron

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

A Muzi said:

Quoted message said:

> Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
>> I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
>> UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
>> bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
>> make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
>> So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
>> Ron
>> I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
>> So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
> MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
> wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

Quoted message said:

Jay Beattie said:

O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
80s.

Quoted message said:

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

This about the closest thing to a consensus answer I've ever seen around here.
Thanks guys and MKS thanks you all.

Mind that the POV comes from a wrenching mindset on r.b.t more than
anything else--the MKS are quality, you may or may not find them
practical or comfy.

A Muzi said:

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

Which brings up a question. Lately, the MKS pedals i've bought have
come in plastic baggies, one with a red label for left side, one with
a blue label for right side. No box. But those pictures from Andrew
Muzi show purple boxes. Who determines who gets a purple box, and who
gets a plastic baggie ?? Just curious, thanx.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA, USA

(Donald Gillies) said:

A Muzi said:

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

Which brings up a question.  Lately, the MKS pedals i've bought have
come in plastic baggies, one with a red label for left side, one with
a blue label for right side.  No box.  But those pictures from Andrew
Muzi show purple boxes.  Who determines who gets a purple box, and who
gets a plastic baggie ?

You got *colored* bags?? My Sylvan tours came in disturbingly clear
plastic. I just don't feel speshul any more.

Quoted message said:

A Muzi said:

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

Donald Gillies said:

Which brings up a question. Lately, the MKS pedals i've bought have
come in plastic baggies, one with a red label for left side, one with
a blue label for right side. No box. But those pictures from Andrew
Muzi show purple boxes. Who determines who gets a purple box, and who
gets a plastic baggie ?? Just curious, thanx.

New MKS pedals, like everything else, had to be either in less package
or at a much higher price. MKS chose well I think.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

landotter said:

Hobbes@spnb&s.com said:

A Muzi said:

>> Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
>>> I haven't bought a flat pedal in decades and could benefit from some experience.
>>> UPS is bringing a single speed IRO cross frame I'll be setting up with mustache
>>> bars for mild trails and bad roads and otherwise having fun. Clips and straps
>>> make sense unless I race it and that I'm equipped for that.
>>> So, what's a good, solid, nonexpensive, non-boat-achor pedal nowadays?
>>> Ron
>>> I'm sure Christophe will still have straps for me,
>>> So, what'd you expect from a tiger.

Quoted message said:

>  A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> MKS Sylvan in Road (looks like a 1037) Track (looks like a 1038) or the
>> wider Tour. Tough and cheap.

Quoted message said:

Jay Beattie wrote:
> O.K., those are not Campy quality, but gawdamighty, the MKS are cheap.
> I think I was paying that much for plausible SR knock-offs back in the
> 80s.

Quoted message said:

They're quality too, last seemingly forever under the most abusive
riders/conditions. Still made in Japan, first rate.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSRNEW.JPG
http://www.yellowjersey.org/MKSPNEW.JPG

This about the closest thing to a consensus answer I've ever seen around here.
Thanks guys and MKS thanks you all.

Mind that the POV comes from a wrenching mindset on r.b.t more than
anything else--the MKS are quality, you may or may not find them
practical or comfy.

It's a pedal, if it spins smooth without bending or breakiing when I stand on
it, it's good. Comfy? If it isn't I need a harder shoe.

Quality at a good price is all I can ask in a flat pedal.

You're right to remind that mileage will vary, but a needless precaution in this
case.

Ron