Pedal Float SPD- SL or Look?

"Brad" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Can somebody please explain to me if there is any difference between
SPD-SL or Look pedals as far as the float?
And which is better to start on?

I am only just starting out and would like to buy some clippless pedals
for my hybrid bike which I only ride on the road and the occasional cement
path..

Is this in the FAQ yet?
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=pedals+group%3Aaus.bicycle

LOOK:
0 degrees float (black cleat)
9 degrees float (red cleat)

SPD-SL:
0 degrees float (red tip cleat)
6 degrees float (yellow tip cleat)

I like SPD-SL which you will know having read the last
20 'which pedal' threads :-P
They are basically an improvement on LOOKs design
with little pontoons to reduce wear from walking on them
and they don't squeak like some LOOKs.
LOOK are almost a road standard but SPD-SL are
gaining lots of popularity, even converting some
LOOKers.

Do you often walk with your cycling shoes on?
Try SPDs instead. MUCH better for more casual riding.
They have a smaller, 'sunken' cleat which doesn't interfere
with walking anywhere near as much as road cleats like
LOOK and SPD-SL. More flexible shoes also help and
they can look just like 'normal' shoes.

hippy

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Quoted message said:

"Brad" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Can somebody please explain to me if there is any difference between
SPD-SL or Look pedals as far as the float?
And which is better to start on?

I am only just starting out and would like to buy some clippless pedals
for my hybrid bike which I only ride on the road and the occasional
cement path..

Is this in the FAQ yet?
http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=pedals+group%3Aaus.bicycle

LOOK:
0 degrees float (black cleat)
9 degrees float (red cleat)

SPD-SL:
0 degrees float (red tip cleat)
6 degrees float (yellow tip cleat)

I like SPD-SL which you will know having read the last
20 'which pedal' threads :-P
They are basically an improvement on LOOKs design
with little pontoons to reduce wear from walking on them
and they don't squeak like some LOOKs.
LOOK are almost a road standard but SPD-SL are
gaining lots of popularity, even converting some
LOOKers.

Do you often walk with your cycling shoes on?
Try SPDs instead. MUCH better for more casual riding.
They have a smaller, 'sunken' cleat which doesn't interfere
with walking anywhere near as much as road cleats like
LOOK and SPD-SL. More flexible shoes also help and
they can look just like 'normal' shoes.

hippy

Do SPDs (not SPD-SL) have float as well?
John

In article <[email hidden]>,

hippy said:

They have a smaller, 'sunken' cleat which doesn't interfere
with walking anywhere near as much as road cleats like
LOOK and SPD-SL.

Minor correction: They have a smaller cleat that are recessed on shoes
specifically designed for them, so they don't interfere with walking
anywhere near as much as road cleats like LOOK and SPD-SL. On shoes that
can take a choice of LOOK, SPD-SL and SPD cleats, the SPD cleats are not
recessed.

--
Shane Stanley

"jsdfsd" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Do SPDs (not SPD-SL) have float as well?

Yes. 6 degrees.

hippy

"Shane Stanley" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

hippy said:

They have a smaller, 'sunken' cleat which doesn't interfere
with walking anywhere near as much as road cleats like
LOOK and SPD-SL.

Minor correction: They have a smaller cleat that are recessed on shoes
specifically designed for them, so they don't interfere with walking
anywhere near as much as road cleats like LOOK and SPD-SL. On shoes that
can take a choice of LOOK, SPD-SL and SPD cleats, the SPD cleats are not
recessed.

SPD is a 2-bolt setup whereas LOOK and SPD-SL are
3-bolt. Will SPD cleats actually fit on LOOK-compatible
shoes?
I never actually considered using road shoes with SPD
cleats. I figure that's the worst of both worlds.

hippy

In article <[email hidden]>,

hippy said:

SPD is a 2-bolt setup whereas LOOK and SPD-SL are
3-bolt. Will SPD cleats actually fit on LOOK-compatible
shoes?

Some shoes have both sets of holes (and more). Have a look at the pic of
the SH-R060 at
http://www.shimano.com.au/publish/content/australia/en/cycling/products/s
hoes_and_pedals/road_shoes.html

It was probably more common when Shimano was still pushing SPD-Rs.

--
Shane Stanley

Speedplay have far more float and I wouldn't go back to Look or Time.

Speedplay pedals are poor too walk on.

Are speedplay worse than Look or time to walk on or just as bad.

Brad

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Quoted message said:

Speedplay have far more float and I wouldn't go back to Look or Time.

Speedplay pedals are poor too walk on.

--
xbgs351

Brad said:

Can somebody please explain to me if there is any difference between SPD-SL
or Look pedals as far as the float?
And which is better to start on?

I am only just starting out and would like to buy some clippless pedals for
my hybrid bike which I only ride on the road and the occasional cement
path..

Apologies if the question is a bit lame.

Thanks
Brad

I ride xc and a little jumping and I find
eggbeaters(http://www.crankbrothers.com/) to be really good because of
the extra float 15 or 20 degrees depending on the orientation of the
cleat. Phantom had them on sale for a while but it looks like they are
back to the normal price http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/home.php?cat=28
$199.00

Brad said:

Can somebody please explain to me if there is any difference between SPD-SL
or Look pedals as far as the float?
And which is better to start on?

I am only just starting out and would like to buy some clippless pedals for
my hybrid bike which I only ride on the road and the occasional cement
path..

Apologies if the question is a bit lame.

Thanks
Brad

I ride xc and a little jumping and I find
eggbeaters(http://www.crankbrothers.com/) to be really good because of
the extra float 15 or 20 degrees depending on the orientation of the
cleat. Phantom had them on sale for a while but it looks like they are
back to the normal price http://www.phantomcycles.com.au/home.php?cat=28
$199.00

"hippy" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

I like SPD-SL which you will know having read the last
20 'which pedal' threads :-P
They are basically an improvement on LOOKs design
with little pontoons to reduce wear from walking on them
and they don't squeak like some LOOKs.
LOOK are almost a road standard but SPD-SL are
gaining lots of popularity, even converting some
LOOKers.

Hi Hippy,

Are the holes for mounting SPD-SL the same as LOOK? I have an older
Time shoes and I wouldn't mind checking out the SPD-SL.

Quoted message said:

Do you often walk with your cycling shoes on?
Try SPDs instead. MUCH better for more casual riding.
They have a smaller, 'sunken' cleat which doesn't interfere
with walking anywhere near as much as road cleats like
LOOK and SPD-SL. More flexible shoes also help and
they can look just like 'normal' shoes.

It is not just the issue of recessed cleats. I have a pair
of road shoes and I used the older style SPD (sm-sh71 cleats)
with platoons. I found they don't slip anywhere near as much
as the LOOK cleats. But the problem with the SPDs, I think,
it is because they are narrower, they are probably aren't
as stable. The question is whether you can ride as long with
walkable SPD shoes as opposed to hard sole road shoes.

Quoted message said:

hippy

"The Doctor" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Are the holes for mounting SPD-SL the same as LOOK? I have an older
Time shoes and I wouldn't mind checking out the SPD-SL.

Yes, LOOK and SPD-SL use the same 3-bolt pattern.

Quoted message said:

It is not just the issue of recessed cleats. I have a pair
of road shoes and I used the older style SPD (sm-sh71 cleats)
with platoons. I found they don't slip anywhere near as much
as the LOOK cleats. But the problem with the SPDs, I think,
it is because they are narrower, they are probably aren't
as stable. The question is whether you can ride as long with
walkable SPD shoes as opposed to hard sole road shoes.

I've done two Around the Bay's using and SPD setup
and I've raced and trained and commuted for a few
years using SPDs. I only changed to SPD-SL in the
last couple of months because the cleats (or maybe
the pedals?) on the SPDs were getting too easy to
clip out of (they were never near max tenson though).
I also figured I would make the change to road
shoes because I was looking for any power transfer
advantage I could get. I don't think I have a higher
pain threshold than anyone else but I did LOTS of
kays in SPDs and it was only when they were brand
new that I had occasional sore feet. I _was_ using
$50 Nike shoes too.. cheap cheap! ;-)

hippy