Pedal and Shoe Question

In article <[email hidden]>, Ken Jude
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I've just bought the Shimano pedals that are SPD on one side and conventional pedal on the other,
together with a pair of SH-M020 shoes as my first venture into the SPD arena after deciding I hated
the straps on the original pedals on my bike.

The leaflet with the shoes says they cannot be used with SPD pedals for road riding. Can someone
explain to me why not? They are comfortable. I am sure with practice they will be a huge
improvement on my trainers/old pedals combination which managed London - Windsor last weekend (my
first ever "event"😉.

I can't see why the Shimano shoes won't cope with similar distances on the road.

Well so far I've done about 3,500 miles road riding in a pair...

--
Roger Barker [email hidden] Boston, UK

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Quoted message said:

I've just bought the Shimano pedals that are SPD on one side and conventional pedal on the other,
together with a pair of SH-M020 shoes as my first venture into the SPD arena after deciding I
hated the straps on the original pedals on my bike.

The leaflet with the shoes says they cannot be used with SPD pedals for road riding. Can someone
explain to me why not? They are comfortable. I am sure with practice they will be a huge
improvement on my trainers/old pedals combination which managed London - Windsor last weekend (my
first ever "event"😉.

I can't see why the Shimano shoes won't cope with similar distances on the road.

Are you sure that you read that right ?

I am a recent convert to SPD and have got M037 shoes and my bikes are now equipped with various
models of Shimano pedals (515 and 424, I think - both double sided, one sort has a cage to enable
you to ride with no SPD shoes)

No problems riding on the road, that's all I do (I don't like all that silly stuff on muddy tracks!)
I'm not certain but I believe that Shimano also market a slightly different type of SPD pedal and
shoe for racing (rather than tootling cycling) ... perhaps that's where the confusion is

RG

Roger Barker said:

Well so far I've done about 3,500 miles road riding in a pair...

Thanks Roger, enough said :-).

"Ken Jude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've just bought the Shimano pedals that are SPD on one side and conventional pedal on the other,
together with a pair of SH-M020 shoes as my first venture into the SPD arena after deciding I
hated the straps on the original pedals on my bike.

The leaflet with the shoes says they cannot be used with SPD pedals for road riding. Can someone
explain to me why not?

Moonshine. There is no reason why not. I use (hmm scratches chin, can't remember no) some double
sided Shimano pedals that are sold as MTB & off road Sidi shoes.

The tread on the shoes makes them much better to walk in and save my wooden floors.

--
Andrew

"Look laddie, if you're in the penalty area and aren't quite sure what to do with the ball, just
stick it in the net and we'll discuss all your options afterwards."

I believe there is another type of Shimano clipless pedals called SPD-R. My guess is your shoes will
not accept SPD-R cleats.

"Ken Jude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've just bought the Shimano pedals that are SPD on one side and conventional pedal on the other,
together with a pair of SH-M020 shoes as my first venture into the SPD arena after deciding I
hated the straps on the original pedals on my bike.

The leaflet with the shoes says they cannot be used with SPD pedals for road riding. Can someone
explain to me why not? They are comfortable. I am sure with practice they will be a huge
improvement on my trainers/old pedals combination which managed London - Windsor last weekend (my
first ever "event"😉.

I can't see why the Shimano shoes won't cope with similar distances on the road.

RG said:

Are you sure that you read that right ?

Yup. To quote: "NOTE: These SPD shoes cannot be used with SPD/SPD-R pedals for road riding".

I wonder if it's something that got lost in the translation? Although the French, German and Dutch
tranlations also appear to have the appropriate words in them to imply a negative statement as well.

Ken Jude said:

I've just bought the Shimano pedals that are SPD on one side and conventional pedal on the other,
together with a pair of SH-M020 shoes as my first venture into the SPD arena after deciding I
hated the straps on the original pedals on my bike.

Yes, my partner uses these. They're very nice and practical, and make a good half-way step.

Quoted message said:

The leaflet with the shoes says they cannot be used with SPD pedals for road riding. Can someone
explain to me why not? They are comfortable. I am sure with practice they will be a huge
improvement on my trainers/old pedals combination which managed London - Windsor last weekend (my
first ever "event"😉.

This is a bunch of [censored], intended to get you to buy more shoes.

'Road' SPDs and 'off-road' SPDs are allegedly incompatible. Everyone you talk to in every bike shop
will tell you this, so Shimano must have drummed it into them hard with lots of awful warnings. In
point of fact it just isn't true. I use the cleats which came with my 'off-road' SPD pedals on my
cycling shoes, whichever bike I'm riding, and they work just fine. Whether 'road' cleats work with
'off-road' pedals I don't know, because I haven't tried it, but 'off-road' cleats can certainly be
used with 'road' pedals.

It's possible that the 'road' SPD cleats are flatter to the shoe, so that if you fit them to
'off-road' shoes the tread of the shoe will foul the pedal; but if you fit 'off-road' cleats they
don't foul the pedal and all is well.

Mind you, I can't guarantee this - I'm only reporting my own experience. Suck it and see.

--
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;; when in the [censored], the wise man plants courgettes

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Quoted message said:

This is a bunch of [censored], intended to get you to buy more shoes.

'Road' SPDs and 'off-road' SPDs are allegedly incompatible. Everyone you talk to in every bike
shop will tell you this, so Shimano must have drummed it into them hard with lots of awful
warnings. In point of fact it just isn't true. I use the cleats which came with my 'off-road' SPD
pedals on my cycling shoes, whichever bike I'm riding, and they work just fine. Whether 'road'
cleats work with 'off-road' pedals I don't know, because I haven't tried it, but 'off-road' cleats
can certainly be used with 'road' pedals.

It's possible that the 'road' SPD cleats are flatter to the shoe, so that if you fit them to
'off-road' shoes the tread of the shoe will foul the pedal; but if you fit 'off-road' cleats they
don't foul the pedal and all is well.

Mind you, I can't guarantee this - I'm only reporting my own experience. Suck it and see.

IIRC you can't use SPD-cleats on SPD-R/SPD-SL pedals and vice versa. There are, however, SPD-pedals
(no R or SL added) for road bikes. They're not too practical however since they're one-sided.

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Regards, Marten