Peculiar BP Problem - Or Is It?

| IC_Clearly wrote...
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| ...It seems when I visit the doc my BP will shoot up to the 160/100 range...
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| ...When this problem first occurred a couple of years ago, my primary care doctor suggested...
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| I [followed his suggestions]
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| He called my situation "white coat" and did not see it as a problem...
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| Thanks.
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My suggestion: Listen to your doc. White Coat Syndrome is a documented phenomenon. Talk to him about
strategies to avoid this.

OTC diuretics aren't the answer. Unless of course YOUR doctor feels otherwise.

Regards, Snidely

"IC_Clearly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I am 59 (and a 20 mile a week runner) and have had an several incidents

over

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a couple of years with my BP. It seems when I visit

--snip--- Back in '73 a nurse friend of ours told us her first experience with a meditation
patient... a pilot who was in for his routine physical. He asked her what BP she would like to see.
She, of course, did not believe him, but took up the challenge. Well, he performed as promised and
she dug into the matter, eventually taking a course from Silva Mind Control, and my wife and I later
did the same. I can now sit in the doctor's chair, close my eyes, count from 3 to 1, visualize a
pleasant scene, and my BP drops dramatically. Take up meditation. You will get the double benefit of
accelerated healing while lowering your BP.

Dr. Simonton in Texas is healing cancer with this technique. It's well documented by now, although
it was considered witchcraft back in those days. You see nurses teaching biofeedback to patients
before going into surgery - same reason - accelerated healing and lower BP through meditation.

Every day, in every way, you are getting better, better and better.

Have a great day!

Wayne

IC_Clearly said:

I am 59 (and a 20 mile a week runner) and have had an several incidents over a couple of years with
my BP. It seems when I visit the doc my BP will shoot up to the 160/100 range (not every time but
more often than not). I recently had an insurance physical and it occurred when I went into the
exam room. By the way, the exam was pretty intense. A doc and a paramedic (at the same time) in a 6
X 8 exam room. One stuck me with needles and pasted EKG leads on my chest while the other ran me
through the 100 question routine in the span of 20 minutes. I was pretty uptight (don't like
needles at all). It also occurred within an hour of finishing a meal (if that matters).

In any event, I take my BP on a home machine several times a month. Depending on the time of day,
it will hover around 115/75 and sometimes will spike up to 140/90. The higher readings seem to
occur later in the day through mid afternoon when they do occur (which is a few times a month).
I've also noticed that if I take an Advil I sometimes get a spike for a several hours.

When this problem first occurred a couple of years ago, my primary care doctor suggested I purchase
a home machine and jot down my readings throughout the day for a couple of weeks and then come
back. I did and actually brought the BP machine to compare with his (we were close). He called my
situation "white coat" and did not see it as a problem. He said to keep an eye on it and if it
became a consistent problem come back and we could look at treatment.

I have a couple of questions. One, is this unusual and two will over the counter diuretics have any
effect? I need to get my BP down when I go into the exam room.

Thanks.

IC

Not at all unusual and the figures you offer are entirely within the normal range -- there is no
possible need for diuretics, OTC or otherwise.

Why do you wish to get your BP down before the medical appointment -- is it that you wish to delude
your doctor? -- This would be another entirely unneeded procedure.

ward RN
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Try running in kilometres instead. They are shorter and easier on the system.

"IC_Clearly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I am 59 (and a 20 mile a week runner) and have had an several incidents

over

Quoted message said:

a couple of years with my BP. It seems when I visit the doc my BP will shoot up to the 160/100
range (not every time but more often than not). I recently had an insurance physical and it
occurred when I went into the

exam

Quoted message said:

room. By the way, the exam was pretty intense. A doc and a paramedic (at the same time) in a 6 X 8
exam room. One stuck me with needles and pasted EKG leads on my chest while the other ran me
through the 100 question routine in the span of 20 minutes. I was pretty uptight (don't like

needles

Quoted message said:

at all). It also occurred within an hour of finishing a meal (if that matters).

In any event, I take my BP on a home machine several times a month. Depending on the time of day,
it will hover around 115/75 and sometimes

will

Quoted message said:

spike up to 140/90. The higher readings seem to occur later in the day through mid afternoon when
they do occur (which is a few times a month). I've also noticed that if I take an Advil I
sometimes get a spike for a several hours.

When this problem first occurred a couple of years ago, my primary care doctor suggested I
purchase a home machine and jot down my readings throughout the day for a couple of weeks and then
come back. I did and actually brought the BP machine to compare with his (we were close). He
called my situation "white coat" and did not see it as a problem. He said to keep an eye on it and
if it became a consistent problem come back and

we

Quoted message said:

could look at treatment.

I have a couple of questions. One, is this unusual and two will over the counter diuretics have
any effect? I need to get my BP down when I go

into

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the exam room.

Thanks.

IC

"Wayne Lundberg" <[email hidden]>

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Dr. Simonton in Texas is healing cancer with this technique.

That is far too important a claim for too many people to be made so lightly.

Peter Moran

"Wayne Lundberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Dr. Simonton in Texas is healing cancer with this technique.

Things sounded OK until you got to the cancer part.

r

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is my own."

"I am not a number. I am a free man." No. 6

| > IC_Clearly wrote... I am 59 (and a 20 mile a week runner) and have had an several incidents over
| > a couple of years with my BP. It seems when I visit--snip---
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| Wayne Lundberg responded...
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| Back in '73 a nurse friend of ours told us her first experience with a meditation patient...
| -------------<snippidy do dah>---------------- Take up meditation. You will get the double benefit
| of accelerated healing while lowering your BP.
|
| Dr. Simonton in Texas is healing cancer with this technique. It's well documented by now, although
| it was considered witchcraft back in those days.... -------------<snippidy do
| dah>----------------
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You had me there Wayne. I was thinking "yeah, this is a perfectly good way to reduce anxiety and
thus blood pressure."

Then you had to go and toss in that little snippet about "healing cancer" with "this technique." The
implication, though you may not mean it, SEEMS to be that Dr. Simonton is healing cancer with
meditation alone.

A short Google search reveals the following:

C. Thomas Simonton, M.D. Texas Colon And Rectal Surgeons Woodhill Clinic 8315 Walnut Hill Lane, #110
Dallas, TX 75231

Would this be the Dr. Simonton to whom you are referring? If so, then I would hazard a guess
(without having contacted him or the clinic) that meditation is being used in conjunction with other
more conventional therapies.

Please forgive me if I sound a little snippy. That's not my intent. However, in this forum
especially one must be careful about the description of any treatments for cancer.

Kindest Regards, Snidely

Snidely F Whiplash said:

| IC_Clearly wrote...
|
| ...It seems when I visit the doc my BP will shoot up to the 160/100 range...
|
| ...When this problem first occurred a couple of years ago, my primary care doctor suggested...
|
| I [followed his suggestions]
|
| He called my situation "white coat" and did not see it as a problem...
|
| Thanks.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My suggestion: Listen to your doc. White Coat Syndrome is a documented phenomenon. Talk to him
about strategies to avoid this.

OTC diuretics aren't the answer. Unless of course YOUR doctor feels otherwise.

Regards, Snidely

Sphygmomanometers (blood pressure cuffs) are easily and cheaply obtained from any large pharmacy --
a series of a weeks readings is of enormously more significance than a single reading, "white coat
syndrome " or not.

ward
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"The Constitution just sets minimums. Most of the rights that you enjoy go way beyond what the
Constitution requires."
-- "Justice" Antonin Scalia
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"Snidely F Whiplash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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-stuff snipped. See previous post-

| Please forgive me if I sound a little snippy. That's not my intent. However, in this forum
| especially one must be careful about the description of any treatments for cancer.
|
| Kindest Regards, Snidely

It's snide. You are supposed to be snide. You are Snidely Whiplash, after all.

Say hello to Dudley & Nell!

| "Snidely F Whiplash" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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| -stuff snipped. See previous post-
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| | Please forgive me if I sound a little snippy. That's not my intent. However, in this forum
| | especially one must be careful about the description of any treatments for cancer.
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| | Kindest Regards, Snidely
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| "Bill Heyman" wrote in message It's snide. You are supposed to be snide. You are Snidely Whiplash,
| after all.
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| Say hello to Dudley & Nell!
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Yes, well... I do have a reputation to uphold...

Regards, Snidely