Pearl "Attack" shorts

"M Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've got 2 pair of Attack shorts, and 2 other "cheapie" pairs. I had a 3rd
pair of Attacks, but returned them after one ride with a seam that was
opening up above the chamois. Now my other 2 pair have seams that are
opening. I really like the fit & feel, but I'm evidently hard on shorts...
But the cheapies are doing fine (though I don't like the feel).

In the $60 price range, what shorts are y'all using that feel good & stand
up to hard use?

--M. Powell

I have 2 pair of "attack" shorts that I bought last year and use in rotation
with several other pairs of shorts. I was wearing a pair on a ride last
month and someone from behind commented that the fabric in the rear had
become so thin that I was basically mooning the world. For as little as
these have been worn and as much as they cost, that's pretty lousy.

Question about your new attack shorts. Last year they had a very thin
chamois. Now it looks like they've gone to heavy padding like all the other
shorts out there. I hate that. Do yours have a thick pad or a thin
chamois?

Bob C.

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"M Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've got 2 pair of Attack shorts, and 2 other "cheapie" pairs. I had a

3rd

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pair of Attacks, but returned them after one ride with a seam that was
opening up above the chamois. Now my other 2 pair have seams that are
opening. I really like the fit & feel, but I'm evidently hard on

shorts...

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But the cheapies are doing fine (though I don't like the feel).

In the $60 price range, what shorts are y'all using that feel good &

stand

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up to hard use?

--M. Powell

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have 2 pair of "attack" shorts that I bought last year and use in

rotation

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with several other pairs of shorts. I was wearing a pair on a ride last
month and someone from behind commented that the fabric in the rear had
become so thin that I was basically mooning the world. For as little as
these have been worn and as much as they cost, that's pretty lousy.

Question about your new attack shorts. Last year they had a very thin
chamois. Now it looks like they've gone to heavy padding like all the

other

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shorts out there. I hate that. Do yours have a thick pad or a thin
chamois?

Bob C.

A fairly thick blue, sculpted pad.
--M. Powell

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"M Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've got 2 pair of Attack shorts, and 2 other "cheapie" pairs. I had a

3rd

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pair of Attacks, but returned them after one ride with a seam that was
opening up above the chamois. Now my other 2 pair have seams that are
opening. I really like the fit & feel, but I'm evidently hard on

shorts...

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But the cheapies are doing fine (though I don't like the feel).

In the $60 price range, what shorts are y'all using that feel good &

stand

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up to hard use?

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Question about your new attack shorts. Last year they had a very thin
chamois. Now it looks like they've gone to heavy padding like all the

other

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shorts out there. I hate that. Do yours have a thick pad or a thin
chamois?

Bob C.

A fairly thick blue, sculpted pad.
--M. Powell

I have not worn them enough to determine durability yet, but I have a
set of Louis Garneau bibs that have what sounds like a similar blue
sculpted pad. They seem pretty durable, though. These don't get a huge
amount of wear, since they're my only pair of team shorts, so I only
wear them to races and the occasional club ride (usually once a week,
maybe six times a month)

Worth a look, and should be within your price range.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

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Question about your new attack shorts. Last year they had a very thin
chamois. Now it looks like they've gone to heavy padding like all the

other

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shorts out there. I hate that. Do yours have a thick pad or a thin
chamois?

Bob C.

A fairly thick blue, sculpted pad.
--M. Powell

I have not worn them enough to determine durability yet, but I have a
set of Louis Garneau bibs that have what sounds like a similar blue
sculpted pad. They seem pretty durable, though. These don't get a huge
amount of wear, since they're my only pair of team shorts, so I only
wear them to races and the occasional club ride (usually once a week,
maybe six times a month)

Worth a look, and should be within your price range.

Hi, I took a look at a pair of the Pearl Izumi Ultrasensor's, which I
think has the same chamios as the Attack short. The blue corduroy is
similar to the material that is used in the Voler Team shorts, the
Performance Elite-L, and others, but it is only the outside layer.
Each of the shorts that I mentioned and the PIs all have different
padding and overall shape. Take a look at PIs website, there are two
somewhat round areas that are quite thick.
http://www.pearlizumi.com/pearlizumi/site/catalog/productList.aspx?iProductTypeSubID=12

After looking at the Ultrasensors, I want pair, but at $80 it will be
a while.
I bought three new pair of shorts this year:
- Performance Century Gel - I like them, but for some, the pad may be
too thick and heavy. I have also had problems with loose threads and
stitching coming apart around the elastic on the left leg.
- Performance Elite Lite - these have the Multi-L Airstripe chamios,
which is not real thick. I like these and when on sale marked down to
$29.99 from $49.99 are a very good deal.
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.cfm?SKU=18665&Store=Bike
- Voler Team shorts from Velowear - these have the Cantara chamios.
These are ok, the short itself is very good, I just don't like the
chamios, the shape and for me, it is too thin. It also has that blue
corduroy cover.

Life is Good!
Jeff

Jeff Starr said:

Hi, I took a look at a pair of the Pearl Izumi Ultrasensor's, which I
think has the same chamios as the Attack short.

I like Ultrasensor shorts, and have acquired enough of them over the
last couple of years (I wait for sales) to last through my laundry
cycle. The oldest pair has probably been machine-washed over 100 times
and is still okay.

On the other hand, my wife bought me a pair of high-priced Pearl Izumi
socks this spring whose dye ran all over the first time they were
washed. I can't remember the last time this happened to me with
athletic clothing, it has been so long that I assumed this was a
problem fully solved long ago. I'm now uncomfortable enough with
Pearl Izumi's apparently variable quality control that I'm questioning
the wisdom of investing a substantial amount of money in their products
so I'll probably look at other brands of shorts when I need a new pair.

Dennis Ferguson

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> Question about your new attack shorts. Last year they had a very

thin

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> chamois. Now it looks like they've gone to heavy padding like all

the

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other

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> shorts out there. I hate that. Do yours have a thick pad or a thin
> chamois?
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> Bob C.

A fairly thick blue, sculpted pad.
--M. Powell

I have not worn them enough to determine durability yet, but I have a
set of Louis Garneau bibs that have what sounds like a similar blue
sculpted pad. They seem pretty durable, though. These don't get a huge
amount of wear, since they're my only pair of team shorts, so I only
wear them to races and the occasional club ride (usually once a week,
maybe six times a month)

Worth a look, and should be within your price range.

Hi, I took a look at a pair of the Pearl Izumi Ultrasensor's, which I
think has the same chamios as the Attack short. The blue corduroy is
similar to the material that is used in the Voler Team shorts, the
Performance Elite-L, and others, but it is only the outside layer.
Each of the shorts that I mentioned and the PIs all have different
padding and overall shape. Take a look at PIs website, there are two
somewhat round areas that are quite thick.

http://www.pearlizumi.com/pearlizumi/site/catalog/productList.aspx?iProductTypeSubID=12

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After looking at the Ultrasensors, I want pair, but at $80 it will be
a while.
I bought three new pair of shorts this year:
- Performance Century Gel - I like them, but for some, the pad may be
too thick and heavy. I have also had problems with loose threads and
stitching coming apart around the elastic on the left leg.
- Performance Elite Lite - these have the Multi-L Airstripe chamios,
which is not real thick. I like these and when on sale marked down to
$29.99 from $49.99 are a very good deal.
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.cfm?SKU=18665&Store=Bike
- Voler Team shorts from Velowear - these have the Cantara chamios.
These are ok, the short itself is very good, I just don't like the
chamios, the shape and for me, it is too thin. It also has that blue
corduroy cover.

Life is Good!
Jeff

So, your vote seems to be Elite Lite (on sale)?
--M. Powell

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"Jeff Starr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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After looking at the Ultrasensors, I want pair, but at $80 it will be
a while.
I bought three new pair of shorts this year:
- Performance Century Gel - I like them, but for some, the pad may be
too thick and heavy. I have also had problems with loose threads and
stitching coming apart around the elastic on the left leg.
- Performance Elite Lite - these have the Multi-L Airstripe chamios,
which is not real thick. I like these and when on sale marked down to
$29.99 from $49.99 are a very good deal.
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.cfm?SKU=18665&Store=Bike
- Voler Team shorts from Velowear - these have the Cantara chamios.
These are ok, the short itself is very good, I just don't like the
chamios, the shape and for me, it is too thin. It also has that blue
corduroy cover.

Life is Good!
Jeff

So, your vote seems to be Elite Lite (on sale)?
--M. Powell

Sure, I don't think you can go wrong with them at $29.95. I honestly
have a hard time believing any of the cycling shorts are worth more
than about $50. What could possibly make some of the PIs worth $199?
Can they be a $119 better than the Ultrasensor? This is an honest
question and unfortunately I am not financially able to find out for
myself.
But otherwise -
Life is Good!
Jeff

I have a pair that I rotate in that are quite new. I really like my
Canari's a little better. Not sure which Canari's they are however. They
were $60 USD though, that I do remember. They seem to be holding up okay.

Curt

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I've got 2 pair of Attack shorts, and 2 other "cheapie" pairs. I had a 3rd
pair of Attacks, but returned them after one ride with a seam that was
opening up above the chamois. Now my other 2 pair have seams that are
opening. I really like the fit & feel, but I'm evidently hard on shorts...
But the cheapies are doing fine (though I don't like the feel).

In the $60 price range, what shorts are y'all using that feel good & stand
up to hard use?

--M. Powell

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I've got 2 pair of Attack shorts, and 2 other "cheapie" pairs. I had a 3rd
pair of Attacks, but returned them after one ride with a seam that was
opening up above the chamois.

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I had recent problems with pearlizumi attacks as well. front seams
splitting after only a couple uses, and I also found I hated the "new"
blue pad. Besides being a little too bulky (felt like a diaper), I
found that on longer rides, the "flat seam stitching" between the blue
and black side pads always started chafing after about 2-3 hours.

I've gone back to the plain old Performance Century short, drawstring,
one-piece synthetic chamois, and fairly sturdy fabric... $35

d

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I had recent problems with pearlizumi attacks as well. front seams
splitting after only a couple uses, and I also found I hated the "new"
blue pad. Besides being a little too bulky (felt like a diaper), I
found that on longer rides, the "flat seam stitching" between the blue
and black side pads always started chafing after about 2-3 hours.

I like the PI blue chamois and have not had any problems with durability.
I've used mine on a half dozen centuries this year, plus lots of shorter
training rides.

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I've got 2 pair of Attack shorts, and 2 other "cheapie" pairs. I had a 3rd
pair of Attacks, but returned them after one ride with a seam that was
opening up above the chamois. Now my other 2 pair have seams that are
opening. I really like the fit & feel, but I'm evidently hard on shorts...
But the cheapies are doing fine (though I don't like the feel).

In the $60 price range, what shorts are y'all using that feel good & stand
up to hard use?

--M. Powell

I had a pair of the Attack shorts and couldn't get along with the
chamois. My wife tried them and loves them. Different strokes..... My
vote for best buy in a short is the Nashbar bib with the regular pad
(the less expensive bibs). I've had a pair of these for 3 years,
washed them a bunch, and they're still going strong. Also still my
most comfortable shorts. The other short that I really like is the
Volers. They're a bit more expensive than the Nashbars, but also very
reasonably priced and comfortable. Haven't tried any of the more
expensive ones, I just don't see spending $100+ for shorts.
Smokey

My son has a couple pairs of Performance shorts that have the look of
transparency you mention. I told him about the same thing; "Hey, you
can see right through your shorts." He already knew about it and told
me the base layer fabric in them is what we were seeing. It's a
"nude" color. When he's bent over in the drops the shorts stretch a
little more and open up the top fabric to reveal the base layer, hence
the appearance of transparency. Could this be what is happening to
your pair? You know, he always has more women following his backside
than I do, dang kid! On the other hand, they prefer "my" beefy quads
to his. Life is good!

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I have 2 pair of "attack" shorts that I bought last year and use in rotation
with several other pairs of shorts. I was wearing a pair on a ride last
month and someone from behind commented that the fabric in the rear had
become so thin that I was basically mooning the world. For as little as
these have been worn and as much as they cost, that's pretty lousy.

Question about your new attack shorts. Last year they had a very thin
chamois. Now it looks like they've gone to heavy padding like all the other
shorts out there. I hate that. Do yours have a thick pad or a thin
chamois?

Bob C.