jmcquown said:Sheldon said:jmcquown said:Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad
more, right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat
Bryan is part of Sara Lee. Their web site is particularly uninformative.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:It's a regional thing... sounds like streaky back fat, not at all
what most Americans call bacon (side pork)
Ahem, it's called "fat back" not "back fat". But I don't buy it.
Salt pork for soups, yes, and in fact this bacon had more fat than
salt pork.
So much for Shecky's Southern Cooking expertise. Fat back is cheap
stuff, supermarket case stuff, usually unbranded.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:The proportion of fat to lean is the least important indicator of
bacon quality, in fact it's no indicator whatsoever, merely as the
typical American consumer more lean streaks is probably what
you're used to. With the bacon you purchased you paid a premium
[hopefully] for the quality of the fat (the young age of the animal
and from where cut) and their proprietory curing process. If what
you want is lean buy Canadian bacon.
Give it up. It's wet-cured. The only premium worth paying for is
old-fashioned dry-cure bacon.
Quoted message said:Peameal bacon is too darned expensive and it's hard to find down
here. Also too salty for my taste, but you're talking to a woman who
soaks ham to rid it of excess salt.
As do I here in Virginia.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I've found bacon served in the south typically more fatty and
cooked far less than that served in the north, the further south
the fattier and less cooked.
Just curious, how much time have you actually spent south of the
Mason-Dixon line? I've been down here 35 years and I like my bacon
nice and crisp.
Looks like he's been south for maybe 35 minutes. In my Virginia
restaurants since the 70's, we learned that crisp bacon was how it had
to be. People very specifically ate it crisp and that was that. That
chewy bacon was always left over when we ran buffets. Crisp always gone.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:And from cooking for many thousands of southeners found they much
prefered fattier bacon and what I call rare.
Rare means something, not just what you call it. Processed meats like
bacon can't be cooked rare; no blood. And my restaurants over
30-something years have served literally millions of meals. Sheldon's
"many thousands of southeners" were in the Navy, some of which he liked
almost as much as he liked the Italians he grew up with, no doubt. 40
years ago. Very current knowledge.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I don't much care for
that fatty hardly cooked bacon, in fact it won't go down, but from
your post it's apparently still quite the rage in the deep south.
This is out and out nonsense. The very simple fact is that southerners -
especially people in rural areas - tend to like meats cooked more
thoroughly; all meats.
Quoted message said:I never said my bacon was cooked "rare"; in fact, the more fatty it
is the longer I cook it. I can't stand to chew on blubber, which is
why I was so disappointed at paying more for bacon and basically
getting blubber.
Quoted message said:From my personal experience with folks from the deep south the type
of bacon they use is more of a cooking ingredient than a breakfast
meat... they typically eat ham and sausages instead...
Nonsense.
Quoted message said:Huh. Could have fooled me. I like sausage on occasion; sausage
gravy on biscuits, certainly! For the most part, country sausage
patties contain far too much sage and also fat; they shrink up to
nothing. They disappear inside a biscuit, for shame! But bacon in
my neck of the woods is the breakfast meat of choice. Crisp bacon.
Exactly. And what we sold hundreds of pounds of bacon each week;
typically about twice as much raw weight as sausage.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:many thought it weird that northerners cooked bacon to eat. They
render that fatty bacon for frying, it was extremely rare I found a
hillybilly boy who'd eat eggs fried in butter, they'd opt for the
sausages and very soft boiled eggs instead... they only ate wonder
type white toast and never the ate the crust... funniest thing to
watch a hillybilly eat a sammich... the crust is the handle, they
never eat any.... they don't seem to like any baked products well
done, to me what they call baked pie crust is warm raw dough.
[censored]. He never spent any time in the south cooking. Fried eggs in
butter or bacon grease are the breakfast staples. The number of
soft-boiled egg orders we'd get in a week could be counted on one hand.
Homemade breads were the order of the day in all the old timers' houses,
and in restaurants, they've increasingly gone to better quality breads.
I've very rarely ever seen uneaten bread crusts in all the years of
cooking and serving breakfast in many restaurants, mine and the ones I
ran for others.
As for pies, that baked crust comment is just nuts. It's very, very
clear that Sheldon is making it up as he goes or is as insane as suspected.
Quoted message said:Again, huh. I've never seen anyone cut the crust off bread in *any*
part of the USA, from California to New Jersey. That's about as
coast to coast as you can get 🙂 IIRC Wonder Bread originated in
Indiana which is definitely *not* in the South. Toast in this
household is whole wheat or even sourdough bread; I can honestly say
I've never bought Wonder Bread in my life. I use rendered bacon fat
in my cornbread and it's not that sweet northern cake-like [censored]! 😉
Oh, and while I've been known to eat a soft boiled egg on occasion,
the liking for those originated with my parents who are most
definitely *not* southern.
Sheldon is full of [censored]. Shocked? His information from upstate New York
about southern eating habits certainly falls well within his usual level
of knowledge. Unfortunately. Pretender to knowledge...
Pastorio