Paths around Buttermere

Steve said:

Hi,

I'm a bit of a novice but want to do some peak walking.
Heading out this weekend, probably on my own and was hoping to get up some
peaks around Buttermere,
weather permitting that is...

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

Steve

From Buttermere to Bleaberry is nice and not too hard. The view from Dodd
excellent on a summers day. The path up to Red Pike (I think it's called
the Saddle) used to be a horrible dirty scramble of a path. It's reddish
dust used to get everywhere, the path crumbled underfoot and it was on
the wrong side of seep. It might have changed in the last 7 odd years but
- Yuk.

However, it's really unavoidable, and it isn't the longest so it's best to
get up it as fast as possible, about 10 minutes I think.

The rest of the path is great and fairly easy.

Jhimmy

Steve said:

Hi,

I'm a bit of a novice but want to do some peak walking.
Heading out this weekend, probably on my own and was hoping to get up some
peaks around Buttermere,
weather permitting that is...

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

Steve

From Buttermere to Bleaberry is nice and not too hard. The view from Dodd
excellent on a summers day. The path up to Red Pike (I think it's called
the Saddle) used to be a horrible dirty scramble of a path. It's reddish
dust used to get everywhere, the path crumbled underfoot and it was on
the wrong side of seep. It might have changed in the last 7 odd years but
- Yuk.

However, it's really unavoidable, and it isn't the longest so it's best to
get up it as fast as possible, about 10 minutes I think.

The rest of the path is great and fairly easy.

Jhimmy

Steve said:

Hi,

I'm a bit of a novice but want to do some peak walking.
Heading out this weekend, probably on my own and was hoping to get up some
peaks around Buttermere,
weather permitting that is...

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

Steve

From Buttermere to Bleaberry is nice and not too hard. The view from Dodd
excellent on a summers day. The path up to Red Pike (I think it's called
the Saddle) used to be a horrible dirty scramble of a path. It's reddish
dust used to get everywhere, the path crumbled underfoot and it was on
the wrong side of seep. It might have changed in the last 7 odd years but
- Yuk.

However, it's really unavoidable, and it isn't the longest so it's best to
get up it as fast as possible, about 10 minutes I think.

The rest of the path is great and fairly easy.

Jhimmy

Steve said:

Hi,

I'm a bit of a novice but want to do some peak walking.
Heading out this weekend, probably on my own and was hoping to get up some
peaks around Buttermere,
weather permitting that is...

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

Steve

From Buttermere to Bleaberry is nice and not too hard. The view from Dodd
excellent on a summers day. The path up to Red Pike (I think it's called
the Saddle) used to be a horrible dirty scramble of a path. It's reddish
dust used to get everywhere, the path crumbled underfoot and it was on
the wrong side of seep. It might have changed in the last 7 odd years but
- Yuk.

However, it's really unavoidable, and it isn't the longest so it's best to
get up it as fast as possible, about 10 minutes I think.

The rest of the path is great and fairly easy.

Jhimmy

Steve said:

Hi,

I'm a bit of a novice but want to do some peak walking.
Heading out this weekend, probably on my own and was hoping to get up some
peaks around Buttermere,
weather permitting that is...

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

Steve

From Buttermere to Bleaberry is nice and not too hard. The view from Dodd
excellent on a summers day. The path up to Red Pike (I think it's called
the Saddle) used to be a horrible dirty scramble of a path. It's reddish
dust used to get everywhere, the path crumbled underfoot and it was on
the wrong side of seep. It might have changed in the last 7 odd years but
- Yuk.

However, it's really unavoidable, and it isn't the longest so it's best to
get up it as fast as possible, about 10 minutes I think.

The rest of the path is great and fairly easy.

Jhimmy

Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

It's a broad ridge, so while it's above cliffs in places there's nothing
that requires more experience than any other hill walk in the Lake
District. Some of the paths have been pitched/repaired where required.
There are one or two very slightly scrambly bits on the main path up
Haystacks from Scarth Gap, but they are not difficult or technical so I
don't think lack of experience should be a problem.

The last little bit of the ascent of Red Pike (above the saddle with
Dodd) is steep and eroded, but again don't let Jhimmy's description put
you off. As he says, it's soon over.

Don't try to go *directly* down from Blackbeck Tarn - the path continues
a little further on before you start to head down.

For more information (including a route which avoids Bleaberry Tarn and
the steep eroded path) see my reply to Jimmy Mullen's post here last
week (18th July) entitled "Red Pike & High Stile, advice sought..."
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Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

It's a broad ridge, so while it's above cliffs in places there's nothing
that requires more experience than any other hill walk in the Lake
District. Some of the paths have been pitched/repaired where required.
There are one or two very slightly scrambly bits on the main path up
Haystacks from Scarth Gap, but they are not difficult or technical so I
don't think lack of experience should be a problem.

The last little bit of the ascent of Red Pike (above the saddle with
Dodd) is steep and eroded, but again don't let Jhimmy's description put
you off. As he says, it's soon over.

Don't try to go *directly* down from Blackbeck Tarn - the path continues
a little further on before you start to head down.

For more information (including a route which avoids Bleaberry Tarn and
the steep eroded path) see my reply to Jimmy Mullen's post here last
week (18th July) entitled "Red Pike & High Stile, advice sought..."
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Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

It's a broad ridge, so while it's above cliffs in places there's nothing
that requires more experience than any other hill walk in the Lake
District. Some of the paths have been pitched/repaired where required.
There are one or two very slightly scrambly bits on the main path up
Haystacks from Scarth Gap, but they are not difficult or technical so I
don't think lack of experience should be a problem.

The last little bit of the ascent of Red Pike (above the saddle with
Dodd) is steep and eroded, but again don't let Jhimmy's description put
you off. As he says, it's soon over.

Don't try to go *directly* down from Blackbeck Tarn - the path continues
a little further on before you start to head down.

For more information (including a route which avoids Bleaberry Tarn and
the steep eroded path) see my reply to Jimmy Mullen's post here last
week (18th July) entitled "Red Pike & High Stile, advice sought..."
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Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

It's a broad ridge, so while it's above cliffs in places there's nothing
that requires more experience than any other hill walk in the Lake
District. Some of the paths have been pitched/repaired where required.
There are one or two very slightly scrambly bits on the main path up
Haystacks from Scarth Gap, but they are not difficult or technical so I
don't think lack of experience should be a problem.

The last little bit of the ascent of Red Pike (above the saddle with
Dodd) is steep and eroded, but again don't let Jhimmy's description put
you off. As he says, it's soon over.

Don't try to go *directly* down from Blackbeck Tarn - the path continues
a little further on before you start to head down.

For more information (including a route which avoids Bleaberry Tarn and
the steep eroded path) see my reply to Jimmy Mullen's post here last
week (18th July) entitled "Red Pike & High Stile, advice sought..."
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Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular
I want to stay clear of?

It's a broad ridge, so while it's above cliffs in places there's nothing
that requires more experience than any other hill walk in the Lake
District. Some of the paths have been pitched/repaired where required.
There are one or two very slightly scrambly bits on the main path up
Haystacks from Scarth Gap, but they are not difficult or technical so I
don't think lack of experience should be a problem.

The last little bit of the ascent of Red Pike (above the saddle with
Dodd) is steep and eroded, but again don't let Jhimmy's description put
you off. As he says, it's soon over.

Don't try to go *directly* down from Blackbeck Tarn - the path continues
a little further on before you start to head down.

For more information (including a route which avoids Bleaberry Tarn and
the steep eroded path) see my reply to Jimmy Mullen's post here last
week (18th July) entitled "Red Pike & High Stile, advice sought..."
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Tim Jackson said:

Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Robert
royall at which net

Tim Jackson said:

Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Robert
royall at which net

Tim Jackson said:

Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Robert
royall at which net

Tim Jackson said:

Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Robert
royall at which net

Tim Jackson said:

Steve wrote on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:51:03 GMT....

Quoted message said:

Was thinking of taking footpath from buttermere up to Bleaberry tarn/Red
pike and then follow footpath,
down thourgh high crag >> hay stacks and down by Blackberry tarn...

I was wondering what the conditions of the paths are up that way?
I'm capable of a hard walk but ain't got much experience at height on
riddges etc... is there any in particular

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Robert
royall at which net

[email hidden] wrote on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:56:16 +0100....

Quoted message said:

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Going round by Scale Force does increase the time needed, but avoids the
steep eroded path near the top of Red Pike.

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[email hidden] wrote on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:56:16 +0100....

Quoted message said:

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Going round by Scale Force does increase the time needed, but avoids the
steep eroded path near the top of Red Pike.

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[email hidden] wrote on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:56:16 +0100....

Quoted message said:

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Going round by Scale Force does increase the time needed, but avoids the
steep eroded path near the top of Red Pike.

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[email hidden] wrote on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:56:16 +0100....

Quoted message said:

Having recently done the round - Haystacks -High Crag - High STile
-Red Pike - SCale Force

I would agree that none of the paths are difficult or have exposure.
However I found them quite uncomfortable to walk on in many places and
thus slower going than expected .( made the bus back with 1 minute to
spare !)
So allow yourself plenty of time.

Going round by Scale Force does increase the time needed, but avoids the
steep eroded path near the top of Red Pike.

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