patches on patches

Quoted message said:

How long does it take other people to remove an inner tube, I think
10 min is too long. (mountin bike with slick tyres).

I normally have the tube out, repaired, replaced and inflated in under 10
minutes.

I'm sure ther's faster folk out there.....

Martin Dann <[email hidden]> wrote:

: More recently I had a second puncture adjacent to the first, and put on
: a tip-top patch half covering the first.

Folks, folks. Tubes are £1 a go if bought mail order in bulk (10+).

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Arthur Clune said:

Folks, folks. Tubes are £1 a go if bought mail order in bulk (10+).

FSVO "tubes". I've yet to find ones suitable for 406 wheels at much under
four quid a go...

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Dave Larrington said:

Arthur Clune said:

Folks, folks. Tubes are £1 a go if bought mail order in bulk

(10+).

Quoted message said:

FSVO "tubes". I've yet to find ones suitable for 406 wheels at much

under

Quoted message said:

four quid a go...

I was almost getting excited for a minute there. 🙂

Quoted message said:

How long does it take other people to remove an inner tube, I think
10 min is too long. (mountin bike with slick tyres).

Yeah. There's a secret, cunning method of doing it.

Fully deflate tyre (the P*ncture fairy normally does this for you) and
remove it from bike

Stick a tyre lever under the bead and lift the bead over the rim. Lock the
tyre lever onto a spoke.

About 2-3 inches further round do the same with the second tyre lever

Take the third lever and hook it under the bead then slide it round.

This site has some instructions on patching the thing.

<URL:http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQGP2.shtml>

Arthur Clune said:

Martin Dann <[email hidden]> wrote:

: More recently I had a second puncture adjacent to the first, and

put on

Quoted message said:

: a tip-top patch half covering the first.

Folks, folks. Tubes are £1 a go if bought mail order in bulk (10+).

At my current rate of punctures, that would still be about 4 quid a
week if I didn't patch my tubes.

--
Dave...

Martin Dann said:

I have not posted here for a long time, so sorry if this has been
covered.

I repaired an inner tube a while back with a totally black patch. (I
don't know the make of the patch.)
More recently I had a second puncture adjacent to the first, and put
on
a tip-top patch half covering the first.
Yesterday I had another puncture, upon removal of both patches I found
that the first patch had become unglued from the tube, completely and
only where the two patches overlapped. The two patches are glued
together solidly.

Did the application of the second, screw up the first, and if so,
is it stupid to put one patch on another?

Overlapping patches usually work ok. Probably just unlucky that the first
one didn't stick well enough. It helps to: sand well, leave cement to dry
completely before applying patch, not testing before fitting in tyre,
leave patch to cure for at least 5 mins (pref 5 hours!).

Quoted message said:

How long does it take other people to remove an inner tube, I think
10 min is too long. (mountin bike with slick tyres).

I've been known to spend longer than 10 mins on the whole job: includes:
examining tyre for damage, pumping it up again, smoking a [censored], etc, etc,
etc.

~PB

ps. I'm joking about the [censored]!

Pete Biggs said:

I've been known to spend longer than 10 mins on the whole job:
includes: examining tyre for damage, pumping it up again, smoking a
[censored], etc, etc, etc.

[...]

Quoted message said:

ps. I'm joking about the [censored]!

I'm not... Well, up until the latter part of 2001, anyway.

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World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

Pete Biggs said:

It helps to: sand well, leave cement to dry
completely before applying patch, not testing before fitting in tyre,
leave patch to cure for at least 5 mins (pref 5 hours!).

That isn't what the Lidl toolkit says.

You must "teasel the cover to to be easy to be vulcanised".

That could be where you're going wrong. ;-)

HTH
Judith

Judith said:

Quoted message said:

It helps to: sand well, leave cement to dry
completely before applying patch, not testing before fitting in tyre,
leave patch to cure for at least 5 mins (pref 5 hours!).

That isn't what the Lidl toolkit says.

You must "teasel the cover to to be easy to be vulcanised".

That could be where you're going wrong. ;-)

I'll have to brush up on my teaseling :-)

~PB

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:35:04 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

FSVO "tubes". I've yet to find ones suitable for 406 wheels at much under
four quid a go...

Indeed. Hence the repeated patching of ragged old 406 tubes, while
622 and 559 tubes go straight in the bin.

Guy
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"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:10:16 +0100, "vernon levy" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How long does it take other people to remove an inner tube, I think
10 min is too long. (mountin bike with slick tyres).

I normally have the tube out, repaired, replaced and inflated in under 10
minutes.

I'm sure ther's faster folk out there.....

I had my first puncture in years today. Well, the puncture happened
last Sunday (a thorn) but I only found it today when I wanted to use
the bike.

It took about an hour and a half to fix! That included chucking my
pump in the bin because the plunger thingy had rotted away. I always
use my car pump, so it was just as well I decided to use my bike pump
...... or I'd have only found out it was rubbish when I needed it for
real.

I don't have quick release wheels, and this was a back wheel with a
Sturmey Archer hub, and it was only after I'd repaired the inner tube
that I decided there was no way I could get the tyre back on with the
wheel still on the bike. (It was at this point that I was looking for
something to kick. It had started raining by now, too.)

However, I'm glad that I've now had the chance to practise puncture
repair at home with no time constraints and with access to soapy water
(for hole finding and hand cleaning.) It refreshed my memory and
should mean that I can cut the time down to an hour next time!

Judith

In article <[email hidden]>, Judith

Quoted message said:

I had my first puncture in years today. Well, the puncture
happened last Sunday (a thorn) but I only found it today when I
wanted to use the bike.

Quoted message said:

It took about an hour and a half to fix!

An SA puncture should take about 11 minuets - including a tea break:-)

I can get an ordinary puncture down to under 3 minuets easily - but I
don't fix punctures - just replace the tube.

--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.millport.net

Response to Sandy Morton:

Quoted message said:

An SA puncture should take about 11 minuets - including a tea break:-)

I can get an ordinary puncture down to under 3 minuets easily

<J.S.Bach> Unfortunately all my punctures seem to take at least a couple
of minuets, five gavottes, and a sarabande :-( </J.S.Bach>

--
Mark, UK.

"Education is the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty."