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  1. This week's food section from the Houston Chronicle
    newspaper.

    chron.comfood

    Becca

  2. turmeric matzo balls!

    I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)

    "Becca" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This week's food section from the Houston Chronicle
    newspaper.

    chron.comfood

    Becca

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dan Levy said:

    turmeric matzo balls!

    I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)

    'cept that mustard isn't kosher for Passover (except for
    Sephardim).

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  4. "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Dan

    Levy said:

    turmeric matzo balls!

    I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)

    'cept that mustard isn't kosher for Passover (except for
    Sephardim).

    --


    Where did you get that information!!?? The plant mustard and
    vinegar are both kosher l'pesach (Sephardim and Ashkenazi
    notwithstanding ).

  5. tuppy said:


    "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:heimdall-F53E36.23062501042004@news4-
    ge1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Dan

    Levy said:

    turmeric matzo balls!

    I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)

    'cept that mustard isn't kosher for Passover (except for
    Sephardim).

    --


    Where did you get that information!!?? The plant mustard
    and vinegar are both kosher l'pesach (Sephardim and
    Ashkenazi notwithstanding ).

    Try this: tzemachdovid.orgtaubes.html

    and there are other references along the same lines. It has
    to do with legumes (and certain other plants) *not* being
    kosher for Pesach. Certainly some mustard powders contain
    wheat, so those would be forbidden.

  6. "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    tuppy said:


    "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:heimdall-F53E36.23062501042004@news4-
    ge1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Dan
    Levy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > turmeric matzo balls!
    >
    > I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)

    'cept that mustard isn't kosher for Passover (except
    for Sephardim).

    --


    Where did you get that information!!?? The plant mustard
    and vinegar


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    both kosher l'pesach (Sephardim and Ashkenazi
    notwithstanding ).

    Try this: tzemachdovid.orgtaubes.html

    and there are other references along the same lines. It
    has to do with legumes (and certain other plants) *not*
    being kosher for Pesach. Certainly some mustard powders
    contain wheat, so those would be forbidden.

    This is crazy. Mustard is NOT of the legume family, nor are
    mustard seed. True the addition of wheat would make it not
    Pessach appropriate. Why it is included among kitanyot is
    beyond my grasp since it really isn't a grain either.

  7. tuppy said:


    "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    tuppy said:


    "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:heimdall-F53E36.23062501042004@news4-
    ge1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Dan Levy" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > > turmeric matzo balls!
    > >
    > > I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)
    >
    > 'cept that mustard isn't kosher for Passover (except
    > for Sephardim).
    >
    > --
    Where did you get that information!!?? The plant
    mustard and vinegar


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    both kosher l'pesach (Sephardim and Ashkenazi
    notwithstanding ).

    Try this: tzemachdovid.orgtaubes.html

    and there are other references along the same lines. It
    has to do with legumes (and certain other plants) *not*
    being kosher for Pesach. Certainly some mustard powders
    contain wheat, so those would be forbidden.

    This is crazy. Mustard is NOT of the legume family, nor
    are mustard seed. True the addition of wheat would make it
    not Pessach appropriate. Why it is included among kitanyot
    is beyond my grasp since it really isn't a grain either.

    I think you would have to take that up with the Rabbis LOL!
    No idea, but certainly all sorts of things including certain
    pharmaceuticals are deemed unkosher for Pesach, even if they
    contain no grain.

  8. "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    tuppy said:


    "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    tuppy wrote:
    >
    > "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:heimdall-F53E36.23062501042004@news4-
    > ge1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "Dan Levy" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > turmeric matzo balls!
    > > >
    > > > I bet a MUSTARD matzo ball would be good too :-)
    > >
    > > 'cept that mustard isn't kosher for Passover
    > > (except for


    Sephardim).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >
    > > --
    > Where did you get that information!!?? The plant
    > mustard and


    vinegar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are

    Quoted message said:

    > both kosher l'pesach (Sephardim and Ashkenazi
    > notwithstanding ).

    Try this: tzemachdovid.orgtaubes.html

    and there are other references along the same lines.
    It has to do with legumes (and certain other plants)
    *not* being kosher for Pesach. Certainly some mustard
    powders contain wheat, so those would be forbidden.

    This is crazy. Mustard is NOT of the legume family, nor
    are mustard


    seed.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    True the addition of wheat would make it not Pessach
    appropriate. Why it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    included among kitanyot is beyond my grasp since it
    really isn't a grain either.

    I think you would have to take that up with the Rabbis
    LOL! No idea, but certainly all sorts of things including
    certain pharmaceuticals are deemed unkosher for Pesach,
    even if they contain no grain.

    Halachic law says that anything taken for the necessary
    health of someone overrules rabbinic decrees on whether
    something is kosher or not. I wonder if these rabbis are the
    same clowns who say that gelatin (jello) made from swine
    tenet is still kosher.

  9. tuppy said:


    "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Try this:
    > tzemachdovid.orgtaubes.html
    >
    > and there are other references along the same lines.
    > It has to do with legumes (and certain other plants)
    > *not* being kosher for Pesach. Certainly some
    > mustard powders contain wheat, so those would be
    > forbidden.

    This is crazy. Mustard is NOT of the legume family,
    nor are mustard


    seed.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    True the addition of wheat would make it not Pessach
    appropriate. Why it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    included among kitanyot is beyond my grasp since it
    really isn't a grain either.

    I think you would have to take that up with the Rabbis
    LOL! No idea, but certainly all sorts of things
    including certain pharmaceuticals are deemed unkosher
    for Pesach, even if they contain no grain.

    Halachic law says that anything taken for the necessary
    health of someone overrules rabbinic decrees on whether
    something is kosher or not.

    Not quite, the way I learnt it. The item may still *be*
    treyf, but it is permissible to consume it if health or life
    would be endangered otherwise.

    I wonder

    Quoted message said:

    if these rabbis are the same clowns who say that gelatin
    (jello) made from swine tenet is still kosher.

    LOL I meant the Rabbis who wrote/compiled the Talmud.

  10. "tuppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    This is crazy. Mustard is NOT of the legume family, nor
    are mustard seed. True the addition of wheat would make it
    not Pessach appropriate. Why it is included among kitanyot
    is beyond my grasp since it really isn't a grain either.

    You must have missed the recent discussion of why pork is
    treyf. ALthough goyim and reformists claim it is for health
    reasons, the datiyim hold that there is no reason.

    -bwg April is the cruelest month, breeding Lilacs out of the
    dead land, mixing Memory and desire, stirring Dull roots
    with spring rain. -T.S. Eliot

  11. Actually pork is treyf for the same reasons that carrion,
    scavengers, and shellfish are treyf. I believe you will find
    the answer in the middle of either Deuteronomy or Leviticus
    (my OT is at home and I am not) which also tells you that
    mixing wool and linen is forbidden as well.

    "Barry Grau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "tuppy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>-
    ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    This is crazy. Mustard is NOT of the legume family, nor
    are mustard


    seed.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    True the addition of wheat would make it not Pessach
    appropriate. Why it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    included among kitanyot is beyond my grasp since it
    really isn't a grain either.

    You must have missed the recent discussion of why pork is
    treyf. ALthough goyim and reformists claim it is for
    health reasons, the datiyim hold that there is no reason.

    -bwg April is the cruelest month, breeding Lilacs out of
    the dead land, mixing Memory and desire, stirring Dull
    roots with spring rain. -T.S. Eliot

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