Pass Le Cafe ~ ! ***

"Twittering One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"A professed admitted or boasting potential
killer, whether real or imaginary is lost"

yes

"for let the dead bury the
dead."

no, honor and remember.

"And those who truly seek life and protect it gain it, for what is
smarter then seeking, prolonging, or gaining eternal life."

True.
Even my "friends" anf family in real life hurt me,
by ignoring, or refusing to act or understand.

Professionals I trusted would have let me die,
but I hung by a thread.

"All life is important and the smart ones respect it."
ponder on,
the nightbat

yes, bat.
People still are harming me.

I have written teachers and friends and other doctors,
and they don't answer me.

And that is harmful and dangerous on the brain.

Can you take time out to see that what is harmful and dangerous to the
brain
is not giving yourself a rest from it all. How long has it been since you
really enjoyed your
favourite food??

Take it easy Twitty.

Quoted message said:

That does affect the brain, over time. That is real
deprivation of needed connection.

The brain does shrivel, atrophy. It no longer
works the same way.

That is slow injury. That is real.

That silence, that absence of real sensory presence
is just as destructive as a blunt blow to the head,
a hemotoma.

That happened to me this year, and it happened
when I was 17 years old.

Twittering One said:

"After a Year ~

And what if now I told you this, let's say
By email. Would you imagine me
Talking to myself in an empty room,
Watching myself in the window talking,
My fingers moving silently, birdlike,
On the keyboard, or because superimposed
On the screen, among the branches of my mind's
Disenchanted Forest of Neurons?

If I wrote you, told you, I almost died.
I needed help. Would you answer me,
Would you help me?

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human beings
on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact most
people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human beings
on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact most
people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

For your information, tkb, that was a poem.
As for my living, you know nothing of that.

As for asking for assitance in real life,
yes I did that:

I used to volunteer at NYU Medical Center,
The Child Study Center.

I wrote Robin Goodman, PhD, the person to whom
I reported, as psychologist, several times, asking
for her assitance is protecting myself legally and otherwise
from an abusive therapy situation.

She never answered me.

I think that ignoring a person's request for assitance
during a life crisis is less than generous,
to say the least, and in some circumstances, lethal.

"BEE" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Quoted message said:

"Twittering One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"A professed admitted or boasting potential
killer, whether real or imaginary is lost"

yes

"for let the dead bury the
dead."

no, honor and remember.

"And those who truly seek life and protect it gain it, for what is
smarter then seeking, prolonging, or gaining eternal life."

True.
Even my "friends" anf family in real life hurt me,
by ignoring, or refusing to act or understand.

Professionals I trusted would have let me die,
but I hung by a thread.

"All life is important and the smart ones respect it."
ponder on,
the nightbat

yes, bat.
People still are harming me.

I have written teachers and friends and other doctors,
and they don't answer me.

And that is harmful and dangerous on the brain.

Can you take time out to see that what is harmful and dangerous to the
brain
is not giving yourself a rest from it all. How long has it been since you
really enjoyed your
favourite food??

Take it easy Twitty.

Quoted message said:

That does affect the brain, over time. That is real
deprivation of needed connection.

The brain does shrivel, atrophy. It no longer
works the same way.

That is slow injury. That is real.

That silence, that absence of real sensory presence
is just as destructive as a blunt blow to the head,
a hemotoma.

That happened to me this year, and it happened
when I was 17 years old.

time for mediation. time to believe in the true religion of the future,
there is much better world out there, were people listen and love each other
because they have understood the message of Jesus, The eleventh Law ... YOU
MUST CHOOSE IF YOU GO THERE OR STOP YOUR MISSION HERE... because the seven
next years, man shall recieve many new teaching, about true love and
brotherhood between all... than we can say Mission Accompellished for
Mankind... But only when the Arc Angels of The Saint Micheal Legions have
finnished their mission, killing the dragons... And they are here as
Warriors and they are not the Marja Fatima Humanturian Angels ... those all
only send for the salvation, after the war with the demons in 2012, you all
have seen the Demonsdressed in black in New Orleans, killers of innocent
people...and were the media is sillent over...

Twittering One said:

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human beings
on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact most
people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

For your information, tkb, that was a poem.

I understand that, but that doesn't change the fact that most readers
of rec.running don't like what you are doing to the newsgroup. For
example, I buy tickets to see the New York Philharmonic play Mahler's
5th Symphony. However, when the curtain opens there's Marilyn Manson in
all his glory. I'd certainly want my money back. By the same token,
most people want to visit rec.running in order to learn about running
or share their knowlege about running. They don't come here to wade
through post after post after post of what they perceive as utter
jibberish. That's all I'm trying to say. Not trying to bash you in any
way, but maybe help you to see from a different perspective. OK? ;-)

Quoted message said:

As for my living, you know nothing of that.

When I said "seek a living, caring human being," I meant that that
person should be a real person (living), as apposed to a digital
representation of communicating with a person (usenet).

Quoted message said:

As for asking for assitance in real life,
yes I did that:

I used to volunteer at NYU Medical Center,
The Child Study Center.

I wrote Robin Goodman, PhD, the person to whom
I reported, as psychologist, several times, asking
for her assitance is protecting myself legally and otherwise
from an abusive therapy situation.

She never answered me.

Sounds like this could be something to take elsewhere. Could you try a
different psychologist.

Quoted message said:

I think that ignoring a person's request for assitance
during a life crisis is less than generous,
to say the least, and in some circumstances, lethal.

I don't know the details of your situation, but it certainly sounds
like you need to seek a different professional to help you out. May
even be some litigation involved, if they aren't willing to help
correct an abuse case.

tkb

"Twittering One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human beings
on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact most
people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

For your information, tkb, that was a poem.
As for my living, you know nothing of that.

As for asking for assitance in real life,
yes I did that:

I used to volunteer at NYU Medical Center,
The Child Study Center.

I wrote Robin Goodman, PhD, the person to whom
I reported, as psychologist, several times, asking
for her assitance is protecting myself legally and otherwise
from an abusive therapy situation.

She never answered me.

Just like you never answer me out of politeness?? I see a pattern
here Twit .... You get what you put out is the old saying ..

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink ..
It seems in your case that you are maybe creating some of this yourself ..

I have never met anyone that puts out so much of a vibe for attention about
one's terrible life and will only answer back to mainly those that are
either pampering you
or questioning you and so on.

I thought you were a nice person but now actions show a little bias in areas
when it comes to which gender is writing.

In my view, I see this: You put out way of speech that is directed at the
White Knights that
love to save and help .. YOU are playing the part od a damsel in distress!

"Oh please won't someoneone come to my emtional res-cue??" But make sure
it's someone I am attracted to..." <g>

I have read through and you are still pulling other people's chains in this
area .. If you were trully
broken over this you would answer those that go out of their way to lift you
with their kindness.

In real terms .. Yes it may have happened, but you are now soending like a
sick puppy IMO!

Please ... it's boring .. Isn't there a way you can get attention that
won't be harming to you in the end??

Get over it .. But that's right .. It's a hook from the damsel.:-)

I won't write to you and say hello .. I have never said it before .. But I
(and it's only my oppinion), get the notion you are looking like a ...

RUDE [censored] from this end. (I don't care what anyome else has to say) .. It's
just my oppinion of course:-)

L
BEE!

Quoted message said:

I think that ignoring a person's request for assitance
during a life crisis is less than generous,
to say the least, and in some circumstances, lethal.

In real terms .. Yes it may have happened, but you are now soending
like a
sick puppy IMO!

Please ... it's boring .. Isn't there a way you can get attention that
won't be harming to you in the end??

Get over it .. But that's right .. It's a hook from the damsel.:-)

I won't write to you and say hello .. I have never said it before ..
But I
(and it's only my oppinion), get the notion you are looking like a ...

RUDE [censored] from this end. (I don't care what anyome else has to say) ..
It's
just my oppinion of course:-)

L
BEE!

Sorry, got 2 infected ears,
migraine, vertigo, numb right head,
worst ear.

ab cramps doubled over.

be well.
honest.

for your reading pleasure ...

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/mc101.htm

On 16 Sep 2005 08:10:03 -0700

TenKBabe said:

Twittering One said:

"After a Year ~

And what if now I told you this, let's say
By email. Would you imagine me
Talking to myself in an empty room,
Watching myself in the window talking,
My fingers moving silently, birdlike,
On the keyboard, or because superimposed
On the screen, among the branches of my mind's
Disenchanted Forest of Neurons?

If I wrote you, told you, I almost died.
I needed help. Would you answer me,
Would you help me?

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human

beings

Quoted message said:

on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact

most

Quoted message said:

people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

Bloody wannabe psychiatrist now look. What possible harm is she doing,
come on just what exactly>. Is she causing you grief?, abusing you?, no
of course not. Ever heard of a killfile?, well bloody well use it and
let her get on with it and stop the bloody moaning.

Quoted message said:

"Twittering One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In real terms .. Yes it may have happened, but you are now soending
like a
sick puppy IMO!

Please ... it's boring .. Isn't there a way you can get attention that
won't be harming to you in the end??

Get over it .. But that's right .. It's a hook from the damsel.:-)

I won't write to you and say hello .. I have never said it before ..
But I
(and it's only my oppinion), get the notion you are looking like a ...

RUDE [censored] from this end. (I don't care what anyome else has to say) ..
It's
just my oppinion of course:-)

L
BEE!

Sorry, got 2 infected ears,
migraine, vertigo, numb right head,
worst ear.

ab cramps doubled over.

be well.
honest.

O.K .. i will write agin ..

So you can reply out of courtesy .. It jsut take an ax grinded
to get you out from under your stubborn umbrella of selective hearing!

Please, if you are sick .. say so ... and please at least acknowledge if
someone other than
who you wish write out of respect to your emails you put out on line like
you are on your last legs.

I adhere to sympothy and don't always adhere to empath within me.

Being sick didn't stop ypou ansering selectively as if you have something
against some??!

But thanks for your honesty!

I will try to be well.

L
B

Quoted message said:

"Twittering One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

for your reading pleasure ...

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/mc101.htm

Good reading Twitty ..

I have read much like this and had experience in small town where young girl
was visiting and she was long time in a group similar to link you send

She came to my house and was scared ... she said she had to leave town with
her mother.
She came back around scared and her best frind was apparently bashed to
death ... Her friend just happened to stay in her bed the night she was
apperantly meant to be bashed.

She was scared and left town!

Scary stuff!
My childhood had some sick cycles and I do relate, but some of us jusy
plough on.

You do well to put energy into helping others and somehow turn your bad
memories into wisdom and use what happened to you to help others. Be well
Twit .. Be well!

Thank you for rhe reading .. Send me more if you like I am interested in
this stuff and no ... these
children do NOT make these things up.

L
B

"Scary stuff!
My childhood had some sick cycles and I do relate, but some of us jusy
plough on.

You do well to put energy into helping others and somehow turn your bad
memories into wisdom and use what happened to you to help others. Be
well
Twit .. Be well!

Thank you for rhe reading .. Send me more if you like I am interested
in
this stuff and no ... these
children do NOT make these things up."
~ Bee

This is cognitive scienice, proven techniques,
not voodoo.

The interesting point is the link between
disassociative states, and/or trauma, and the vulnerability
for control.

Ray Vingnutte said:

Quoted message said:

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human

beings

Quoted message said:

on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact

most

Quoted message said:

people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

Quoted message said:

Bloody wannabe psychiatrist now look.

That's just it, I don't want to be a psychiatrist, and neither does
anyone else on rec.running. That's why I'm trying to point her in the
right direction for help.

Quoted message said:

What possible harm is she doing,
come on just what exactly

Harm to me? None. She's just wasting her time thinking she's getting
help from usenet. I'm trying to suggest, in a friendly way, that she
could better focus her efforts (if she actually wants help) by seeking
help outside of the Internet.

Is there something wrong with that? Of course it may be a troll, but
I'm willing to take that chance.

tkb

"Twittering One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Scary stuff!
My childhood had some sick cycles and I do relate, but some of us jusy
plough on.

You do well to put energy into helping others and somehow turn your bad
memories into wisdom and use what happened to you to help others. Be
well
Twit .. Be well!

Thank you for rhe reading .. Send me more if you like I am interested
in
this stuff and no ... these
children do NOT make these things up."
~ Bee

This is cognitive scienice, proven techniques,
not voodoo.

The interesting point is the link between
disassociative states, and/or trauma, and the vulnerability
for control.

Yesn ... Like aai said ..

Something I have been studying for quite some time.
The techniques have been around for centuries as 'proven',
yet the proof has only been able to be expressed as society
has allowed it.

It is and has been going on in areas here in Australia on many areas
of life just as in your country etc.

And what you say here ...

Quoted message said:

The interesting point is the link between
disassociative states, and/or trauma, and the vulnerability
for control ........

Is all part of even the smallest issues such as mildly control driven
relationships
etc ....

Even here on a news group you can see this happening with some?! That is ...
if you want to go the depths in your mind and take a look from the outside
of yourself Twitty!

All in all, if one can recognise it when it is happening instead of being so
hooked up in it, then a chance to heal can take place.

Trauma and disasociation led me to areas of control around certain cycles
of my own life ...yes! If you have been through what you say and you have
been traumatised, (and by what and how you write you have), then you would
be on the 'mend' just by delving into this area however it is a long
process!:-)

Linking has been one big learning curb for myself but it has taken many
years for this to
enter the stage of integration!

For linking up the inner with the outer www.numberharmonics.com has certain
techniques that
help and has many more links attached to the site that does the same in
different way

I wish you well.

L
B

Quoted message said:

TenKBabe said:

Ray Vingnutte said:

Quoted message said:

I would say you need more help than can be gotten through the bits and
bytes of this medium. Step away from the keyboard and seek a living,
caring human being that is trained in helping other living human

beings

Quoted message said:

on a personal level. You will not get much help on usenet, in fact

most

Quoted message said:

people on rec.running despise the way you have littered their group
with posts that are way off topic and way beyond what anyone there has
the ability (or the time) to comprehend.

tkb

Quoted message said:

Bloody wannabe psychiatrist now look.

That's just it, I don't want to be a psychiatrist, and neither does
anyone else on rec.running. That's why I'm trying to point her in the
right direction for help.

She is very knowledgeable about medical matters. She has had a
breakdown in her theraputic relationship(s).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What possible harm is she doing,
come on just what exactly

Harm to me? None. She's just wasting her time thinking she's getting
help from usenet. I'm trying to suggest, in a friendly way, that she
could better focus her efforts (if she actually wants help) by seeking
help outside of the Internet.

Is there something wrong with that? Of course it may be a troll, but
I'm willing to take that chance.

She has been posting to usenet for many years. She is no troll.

_g

"Trauma and disasociation
Led me to areas of control around certain cycles
Of my own life
....yes!

If you have been through what you say
And you have been traumatised,
[and by what and how you write you have],

Then you would be on the 'mend'
Just by delving into this area ~

However it is a long
process ~ !"
~ Bee

"Heck, yeah ~ !
I'm not dumb, like, The Beginning of Time.
Heck, know ~ I am not dumb."
~ Twittering

"How do you rebuild The Twittering
Tower that fell,
Crashed,

Splintered into trillion pieces, hastened
By others, skilled, willed, hushed,
No hand held,

No wish
Here fulfilled, empty listing vessel
Spilled, sailing fitfully ~ ?"
~ Folly

"Or conversely,
Let us make you crazy, deny the facts, charge you more,
Insist persistently

Anti ~
Psychotics you require."
~ Side En Dent

"The Land of Post ~
Traumatic,

Which way
To the Inn ~ ?

Do they serve
Breakfast, too ~ ?"
~ Arrowroot

"Is this The Dial 911
Cult

Crowd ...

Got hooked on fallen tower's,
Trauma's cortisol,
Now can't do without It ~ ?

Induce Trauma,
Re ~ Integrate,

Let us help you ~ !

Or not."
~ Blackstone

"... perhaps
The Book of Mirabel, Twittering,
Consider."
~ Folly

"O very well, then. Let us broach the matter
Of the well again ..."
~ Twittering

"O very well, then. Let us broach the matter
Of the wallpaper in Stonington.
Readers in small towns will know the world
Of interest rippling out from such a topic,
Know by their own case that 'small town' is
Largely a state of mind, a medium
Wherein suspended, microscopic figments ..."

~ James Merrill,

Quoted message said:

From "Mirabel's Book of Number"

[p. 97]