Parking in cycle lanes:

Shaun Rimmer said:

I despise them for pulling into the cycle lane, from the
oncoming carriageway, right in front of me, forcing me to
move out into fast flowing

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just carrying
on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to the bonnet and
up the windscreen. Then phone the police. Much damage to car
(especially if you drag the bike on to the bonnet with you),
one shocked driver who has to go to court. Criminal
compensation, new bike, etc, and best of all, you get to
turn up to work late saying you've been run over. Instant
sympathy >🙂

On a more serious note, if you've got the number plate of
this fellow, you can report him directly to the police for
dangerous driving. Although there's unlikely to be a
prosecution they'll often pop round for a word.

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Quoted message said:

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just carrying
on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to the bonnet and
up the windscreen.

<snip other good advice>

Quoted message said:

Although there's unlikely to be a prosecution they'll
often pop round for a word.

I always found a boot in the door and a "Get out of my lane,
Fsckwit!" worked really well. If they report you, they have
to admit to being there. Mind you, you have to have an
escape route planned...

Steve

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Quoted message said:

Shaun Rimmer said:

I despise them for pulling into the cycle lane, from the
oncoming carriageway, right in front of me, forcing me
to move out into fast

flowing

cars.

Quoted message said:

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just carrying
on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to the bonnet
and up the windscreen.

Heheheh, hey, you just _know_ *I'd* be bound to break a bone
doing [censored] like that! ',;~}~

Especially at around 20 mph...

Quoted message said:

Then phone the police. Much damage to car (especially if
you drag the bike on to the bonnet with you), one shocked
driver who has to go to court. Criminal compensation, new
bike, etc, and best of all, you get to turn up to work
late saying you've been run over. Instant sympathy >🙂

I don't need sympathy, I need ACTION!

Quoted message said:

On a more serious note, if you've got the number plate of
this fellow, you can report him directly to the police for
dangerous driving. Although there's unlikely to be a
prosecution they'll often pop round for a word.

Yeah, this particular one didn't happen recently, but
there's many a near incident each week, and there's _always_
cars parked in these lanes, from visiting friends cars,
through people going to the shop, to parents waiting for
kiddies outside schools (the worst ones).

The school mainly in question does have parking facilities,
and I will be writing to them, also.

It bugs me that the police just drive past these idiots
without even glancing - it is against the law to even drive
with a wheel over the white line into a cycle lane 9instant
driving test fail for same), and there a standing fine of
somewhere around £30 for a first offence - I don't get it,
they're normally so big on pulling fine revenue?!?!?!?

Cheers Jon,

Shaun aRe

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Quoted message said:

Bomba says:

Quoted message said:

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just
carrying on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to the
bonnet and up the windscreen.

<snip other good advice>

Quoted message said:

Although there's unlikely to be a prosecution they'll
often pop round for a word.

I always found a boot in the door and a "Get out of my
lane, Fsckwit!"

worked

Quoted message said:

really well. If they report you, they have to admit to
being there. Mind you, you have to have an escape route
planned...

Yeah, and I'm always at least half out of breath! Not only
that, but my criminal damages charges would likely be far
more severe than their illegal parking ones, knowing my luck
with these things...

Shaun aRe

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Shaun Rimmer said:

<RANT MODE!!!!!!!>

Lets face it, it's against the law, it's dangerous, and
only utter t*atc*nts do it.

I'm not sure it is against the law.

I'm in the UK. Here it is illegal, with a standing fine of
around £30 for a first offence. It is also an instant fail
to even put a tyre on the devide line of a cycle lane during
a car test.

Quoted message said:

FWIW, I'd sooner go round the outside of a parked car than
ride up the inside and risk not being seen by someone
waiting to turn into a junction or driveway. Of course, if
there's a junction the car shouldn't be parked anywhere
near it.

These things are not issues in this case.

Shaun aRe

Shaun Rimmer said:

Quoted message said:

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just
carrying on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to the
bonnet and up the windscreen.

Heheheh, hey, you just _know_ *I'd* be bound to break a
bone doing [censored] like that! ',;~}~

Especially at around 20 mph...

Bigger compensation bill!

Sometimes I forget that you're a Northern nonce, not a double-
'ard [censored], like what I am :^D

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The school mainly in question does have parking
facilities, and I will be writing to them, also.

Good plan. Write to as many people as possible. Councillors,
MPs, local paper, etc, etc. I'm sure you don't need help as
to what to write.

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It bugs me that the police just drive past these idiots
without even glancing - it is against the law to even
drive with a wheel over the white line into a cycle lane
9instant driving test fail for same), and there a standing
fine of somewhere around £30 for a first offence - I don't
get it, they're normally so big on pulling fine
revenue?!?!?!?

Ah, but this involves effort on their part. Much easier to
let an automated system take photos and send out the bills.

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Quoted message said:

Shaun Rimmer said:

I despise them for pulling into the cycle lane, from the
oncoming carriageway, right in front of me, forcing me
to move out into fast flowing

Quoted message said:

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just carrying
on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to the bonnet
and up the windscreen. Then phone the police. Much damage
to car (especially if you drag the bike on to the bonnet
with you), one shocked driver who has to go to court.
Criminal compensation, new bike, etc, and best of all, you
get to turn up to work late saying you've been run over.
Instant sympathy >🙂

On a more serious note, if you've got the number plate of
this fellow, you can report him directly to the police for
dangerous driving. Although there's unlikely to be a
prosecution they'll often pop round for a word.

I've performed the crash of which you speak, and made the
bonnet into a birdbath.

/s

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Quoted message said:

Shaun Rimmer said:

Quoted message said:

If you're having to brake that hard, perhaps just
carrying on and performing a controlled 'crash' on to
the bonnet and up the windscreen.

Heheheh, hey, you just _know_ *I'd* be bound to break a
bone doing [censored]

like

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that! ',;~}~

Especially at around 20 mph...

Bigger compensation bill!

And more physical down-time, something I'm about as sick-to-
death of as I can take...

Quoted message said:

Sometimes I forget that you're a Northern nonce, not a double-
'ard [censored], like what I am :^D

Oh, I'm a Hard Northern BastardT alright, just and unlucky
one, that's all...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The school mainly in question does have parking
facilities, and I will

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

writing to them, also.

Good plan. Write to as many people as possible.
Councillors, MPs, local paper, etc, etc. I'm sure you
don't need help as to what to write.

True ',;~}~

I'll start with the School and the Cops/Traffic peeps, and
see how it goes.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It bugs me that the police just drive past these idiots
without even glancing - it is against the law to even
drive with a wheel over the

white

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

line into a cycle lane 9instant driving test fail for
same), and there a standing fine of somewhere around £30
for a first offence - I don't get

it,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they're normally so big on pulling fine revenue?!?!?!?

Ah, but this involves effort on their part. Much
easier to let an automated system take photos and send
out the bills.

Indeed. [censored].

Cheers Jon,

Shaun aRe

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Shaun Rimmer said:

<RANT MODE!!!!!!!>

Lets face it, it's against the law, it's dangerous,
and only utter t*atc*nts do it.

I'm not sure it is against the law.

=20
I'm in the UK. Here it is illegal, with a standing fine of
around =A330 f=

or a

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first offence. It is also an instant fail to even put a
tyre on the devid=

e

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line of a cycle lane during a car test.

Only if it is a solid white line surrounding the bike lane.

If it is a broken white line, you can enter when necessary.
You as the=20 driver have to decide if it is necessary.
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FWIW, I'd sooner go round the outside of a parked car
than ride up the inside and risk not being seen by
someone waiting to turn into a junction or driveway. Of
course, if there's a junction the car shouldn't be
parked anywhere near it.

=20
These things are not issues in this case.
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BTW, currently spendin gmore time driving than I should and
almsot zero=20 time on the bike, but have been a long time
poster here under several=20 different names and different
accounts for about 7 years now.

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Shaun Rimmer said:

<RANT MODE!!!!!!!> I despise them for opening their doors
road-side _after_ I've _already_ pulled out into fast
flowing traffic, forcing me to brake

Quoted message said:

avoid becoming burger meat.

You're slowly learning the facts of life I can see. Become a
roadie, stay away from cycling lanes and stick to the fast
lane from the start 😉

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Quoted message said:

<RANT MODE!!!!!!!>

Lets face it, it's against the law, it's dangerous, and
only utter

t*atc*nts

Quoted message said:

do it. I despise them for opening their doors road-side
_after_ I've _already_ pulled out into fast flowing
traffic, forcing me to brake hard and move

even

Quoted message said:

meat.

Keep an implement of some sort about your person when riding
in town, its surpsrising how quietly you can gouge a cars
door as you go past. I tend to use the edge of a multitool
thats in my saddle bag - you see them pull in ahead of you
(or even better they are already parked), you pull out your
"tool" and just drag it across their door / wing as you
slowly pedal past. To report you they will have to say they
were illegally parked in a cycle lane - not something
drivers want to do. Your defence is that your bars must have
done it as their inconsiderate parking forced you into a
tiny gap in the traffic that eveidently wasnt big enough.
Plus its a real good feeling. Especially if its a BMW. Mark

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Mark Fowler said:

Keep an implement of some sort about your person when
riding in town, its surpsrising how quietly you can
gouge a cars door as you go past. I tend to use the edge
of a multitool thats in my saddle bag - you see them
pull in ahead of you (or even better they are already
parked), you pull out your "tool" and just drag it
across their door / wing as you slowly pedal past. To
report you they will have to say they were illegally
parked in a cycle lane - not something drivers want to
do. Your defence is that your bars must have done it as
their inconsiderate parking forced you into a tiny gap
in the traffic that eveidently wasnt big enough. Plus
its a real good feeling. Especially if its a BMW.

That sounds like a good idea. I wouldn't be at all
surprised if someone spots you at it and gives you a
bloody good hiding for it one day. Not

that

Quoted message said:

I'd condone such things of course.

Thing is, most cycle lanes are in heavy traffic areas. If
they do catch you doing it, they are going to have to run
after you as they couldnt chase you in their cars due to the
heavy traffic!! And lets face it, how small are the odds
that you would do it to a car driver who was also a top
level sprinter!?! Same goes for the inconsiderate parkers
who park their car fully blocking paths - they think they
are doing the right thing as they arent blocking the road!!
Just walk past and knock the wing mirror off. Mark

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Quoted message said:

Shaun Rimmer said:

<RANT MODE!!!!!!!> I despise them for opening their
doors road-side _after_ I've _already_ pulled out into
fast flowing traffic, forcing me to brake

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

avoid becoming burger meat.

You're slowly learning the facts of life I can see. Become
a roadie, stay away from cycling lanes and stick to the
fast lane from the start 😉

I ain't quick enough on the road for that, matey - around 20
is my absolute max on the flat.

Shaun aRe very familiar with the facts of life.

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Quoted message said:

Mark Fowler said:

Keep an implement of some sort about your person when
riding in town, its surpsrising how quietly you can
gouge a cars door as you go past. I tend to use the edge
of a multitool thats in my saddle bag - you see them
pull in ahead of you (or even better they are already
parked), you pull out your "tool" and just drag it
across their door / wing as you slowly pedal past. To
report you they will have to say they were illegally
parked in a cycle lane - not something drivers want to
do. Your defence is that your bars must have done it as
their inconsiderate parking forced you into a tiny gap
in the traffic that eveidently wasnt big enough. Plus
its a real good feeling. Especially if its a BMW.

That sounds like a good idea. I wouldn't be at all
surprised if someone spots you at it and gives you a
bloody good hiding for it one day. Not

that

Quoted message said:

I'd condone such things of course.

Yes there's the violence aspect, but it just isn't my style
at all anyhow.

Shaun aRe

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Quoted message said:

Shaun Rimmer said:

<RANT MODE!!!!!!!>

Lets face it, it's against the law, it's dangerous,
and only utter t*atc*nts do it.

I'm not sure it is against the law.

I'm in the UK. Here it is illegal, with a standing fine of
around £30 for

a

Quoted message said:

first offence. It is also an instant fail to even put a
tyre on the devide line of a cycle lane during a car test.

"Only if it is a solid white line surrounding the bike
lane."

"If it is a broken white line, you can enter when necessary.
You as the driver have to decide if it is necessary."

I thought the 'necessary' was avoiding an accident only?

It's still illegal to park in the damned things, according
to my police sources...

Shaun aRe

Doki said:

Mark Fowler said:

Keep an implement of some sort about your person when
riding in town, its surpsrising how quietly you can
gouge a cars door as you go past. I tend to use the edge
of a multitool thats in my saddle bag - you see them
pull in ahead of you (or even better they are already
parked), you pull out your "tool" and just drag it
across their door / wing as you slowly pedal past. To
report you they will have to say they were illegally
parked in a cycle lane - not something drivers want to
do. Your defence is that your bars must have done it as
their inconsiderate parking forced you into a tiny gap
in the traffic that eveidently wasnt big enough. Plus
its a real good feeling. Especially if its a BMW.

That sounds like a good idea. I wouldn't be at all
surprised if someone spots you at it and gives you a
bloody good hiding for it one day. Not that I'd condone
such things of course.

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"Tyre-slasher jailed for 16 months"

A cyclist who slashed about 2,000 car tyres after being
soaked by a motorist has been jailed for 16 months. Ashley
Carpenter, who admitted slashing the tyres in 10 days, was
sentenced at Bournemouth Crown Court.

He pleaded guilty to eight specimen charges of damaging the
vehicles at Dorset Magistrates' Court in March.

It was said Carpenter, of Bournemouth, launched his campaign
against motorists in December 2003, after being splashed
when a car drove through a puddle.

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<RANT MODE!!!!!!!>

<snip GRS rant>

This is a mountain bike newsgroup, Shaunie. Take that roadie
jive to rec.bicycles for someone who gives a rats ass.

Now go ride in the dirt, ya silly sod.

JD

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A cyclist who slashed about 2,000 car tyres after being
soaked by a motorist has been jailed for 16 months.

Just another of my fantasies. Ah, if I think hard enough
about someone painting big penises on the back of every 4x4
in town, perhaps it'll happen...

Alex

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"Tyre-slasher jailed for 16 months" A cyclist who slashed
about 2,000 car tyres after being soaked by a

motorist

Quoted message said:

has been jailed for 16 months. Ashley Carpenter, who
admitted slashing the tyres in 10 days, was

sentenced at

Quoted message said:

Bournemouth Crown Court. He pleaded guilty to eight
specimen charges of damaging the vehicles at

Dorset

Quoted message said:

Magistrates' Court in March. It was said Carpenter, of
Bournemouth, launched his campaign against

motorists

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in December 2003, after being splashed when a car drove
through a puddle.

2 true examples of British justice regarding cars:

1) You slash car tyres (inanimate objects), you go to jail
for 16 months.
2) You drive with no license, no insurance and no road tax.
You run over a young boy as he crosses the road and kill
him. You then run away from the scene. When you are
caught you are jailed for 8 months but then get it
reduced as it was above the maximum sentence for the
crime. So killing people is only half as bad as slashing
tyres? Tell me thats not screwed up. Cyclists dont get
any protection from the law so at times we have to take
it into our own hands. Just make sure you dont get
caught!! Mark