Paris Roubaix not live this year?

Don't apologize for us... I'm certain OLN Canada has a quality line up of fishing and strongman
shows to keep us happy until Hockey Night in Canada hits the airwaves.

OLN Canada SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: [email hidden] (brian roth) Organization: groups.google.comgroups.google.comOpen ↗ Newsgroups:
rec.bicycles.racing Date: 11 Apr 2003 12:26:33 -0700 Subject: Paris Roubaix not live this year?

Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last
few years.

Apologies in advance to Canadian viewers who might not get any coverage at all.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (brian

roth) said:

Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last
few years.

Apologies in advance to Canadian viewers who might not get any coverage at all.

Don't rub it in, but I may be able to get a friend in the US to send me a tape. Piracy, shmiracy,
who cares. If they don't want piracy, then maybe canadian broadcasters could at least get into the
20th century.

From what I saw it's sunday from 4-6, which certainly isn't live. Maybe they tape the last 2 hours
live but air it later. RIghts or something.

I guess I'll listen on live audio on eurosport!

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OLN Canada SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so does tsn (still haven't figured out what the 's' satnds for).

Darius

In article said:

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OLN Canada SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so does tsn (still haven't figured out what the 's' satnds for).

Darius

Yep, Totally [censored] Network

Does anyone get Fox Sport World Canada? Do they still have that sports news show with those two
geeks who know nothing about sports? We used to get it on Digital, but don't anymore. At least they
carried Rugby.

Marlene (and everyone else),

Get a US dish. It's worth it. Plus you get almost every hockey game. There's a couple of exciting
teams i.e. Minnesota that are on lots. Paris-Nice was particularly good this year. It was just Paul
Sherwan and a toned down, and thus better than ever Bob Roll. Live everyday. Even Tour of Flanders
was reasonable.

James P. Spooner

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (brian

roth) said:

Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last few
years.

Apologies in advance to Canadian viewers who might not get any coverage at all.

Don't rub it in, but I may be able to get a friend in the US to send me a tape. Piracy, shmiracy,
who cares. If they don't want piracy, then maybe canadian broadcasters could at least get into the
20th century.

From what I saw it's sunday from 4-6, which certainly isn't live. Maybe they tape the last 2 hours
live but air it later. RIghts or something.

I guess I'll listen on live audio on eurosport!

Has anyone noted yet that "live coverage" would occure at 4am eastern 1am Pacific? And yeah it sucks
that we only get 2 hrs of "highlights" in the states but he it beats the S H I T out of
fishing........

James P Spooner said:

Marlene (and everyone else),

Get a US dish. It's worth it. Plus you get almost every hockey game. There's a couple of exciting
teams i.e. Minnesota that are on lots. Paris-Nice was particularly good this year. It was just
Paul Sherwan and a toned down, and thus better than ever Bob Roll. Live everyday. Even Tour of
Flanders was reasonable.

James P. Spooner

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (brian

roth) said:

Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last
few years.

Apologies in advance to Canadian viewers who might not get any coverage at all.

Don't rub it in, but I may be able to get a friend in the US to send me a tape. Piracy, shmiracy,
who cares. If they don't want piracy, then maybe canadian broadcasters could at least get into the
20th century.

From what I saw it's sunday from 4-6, which certainly isn't live. Maybe they tape the last 2 hours
live but air it later. RIghts or something.

I guess I'll listen on live audio on eurosport!

I don't want to hurt you Canadians. But after spending a year in Nova Scotia. GOD I GLAD to be back
in the USA if not only for better OLN programming.... Yes Canadian OLN SUCKS! "gord woolley"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Don't apologize for us... I'm certain OLN Canada has a quality line up of fishing and strongman

shows

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to keep us happy until Hockey Night in Canada hits the airwaves.

OLN Canada SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted message said:

From: [email hidden] (brian roth) Organization: groups.google.comgroups.google.comOpen ↗ Newsgroups:
rec.bicycles.racing Date: 11 Apr 2003 12:26:33 -0700 Subject: Paris Roubaix not live this year?

Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last few
years.

Apologies in advance to Canadian viewers who might not get any coverage at all.

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Yep, Totally [censored] Network

Does anyone get Fox Sport World Canada?

football, football, football, and even more football. Then maybe sometimes some rugby and cricket.
Even threir world sports report is 99% soccer. I guess of you like football then you'd be very happy
but their name is really misleading.

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Do they still have that sports news show with those two geeks who know nothing about sports? We
used to get it on Digital, but don't anymore. At least they carried Rugby.

Don't all the 'sports' networks have these kind of geeks doing the news? ;-) My problem with these
networks is that they always seem to stick to the same shows (why do they think 4-5 hours of live
golf/curling is interesting viewing??) and don't broadcast a good variety of sports- i haven't seen
any pro cycling, track and field, xc skiing etc. Oh well, at least we've finally got some nice
weather and i'll go for a ride. Darius

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I don't want to hurt you Canadians. But after spending a year in Nova Scotia. GOD I GLAD to be
back in the USA if not only for better OLN programming.... Yes Canadian OLN SUCKS!

Canadian sports tv sucks. I like hockey as much as any canadian, but there are other sports. You'd
never know it though. The problem is that they are mostly geared toward older, tubby guys who
WATCH sports, but who don't do them. God forbid we encourage anyone to get up and out- the ratings
would fall!

However, our coverage of the olympics is envied by americans who are stuck with wretched putrid NBC.
NOthing but Commentators!

In article said:

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Yep, Totally [censored] Network

Does anyone get Fox Sport World Canada?

football, football, football, and even more football. Then maybe sometimes some rugby and cricket.
Even threir world sports report is 99% soccer. I guess of you like football then you'd be very
happy but their name is really misleading. '

I know, we used to call it Fox Soccer World.

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Do they still have that sports news show with those two geeks who know nothing about sports? We
used to get it on Digital, but don't anymore. At least they carried Rugby.

Don't all the 'sports' networks have these kind of geeks doing the news? ;-) My problem with these
networks is that they always seem to stick to the same shows (why do they think 4-5 hours of live
golf/curling is interesting viewing??) and don't broadcast a good variety of sports- i haven't
seen any pro cycling, track and field, xc skiing etc. Oh well, at least we've finally got some
nice weather and i'll go for a ride. Darius

Totally. They really neglect those sports, although Sportsnet shows a lot of skiing coverage, and
CBC does cover track and field. But it's scattered all over the place. I don't miss FSW except for
Rugby. They had great, live rugby coverage. Often the games were on at 3 am, so we'd tape them!

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I don't want to hurt you Canadians. But after spending a year in Nova Scotia. GOD I GLAD to be
back in the USA if not only for better OLN programming.... Yes Canadian OLN SUCKS!

Canadian sports tv sucks. I like hockey as much as any canadian, but there are other sports. You'd
never know it though. The problem is that they are mostly geared toward older, tubby guys who
WATCH sports, but who don't do them. God forbid we encourage anyone to get up and out- the ratings
would fall!

However, our coverage of the olympics is envied by americans who are stuck with wretched putrid
NBC. NOthing but Commentators!

That not a fair trade off...I'll take the US OLN any day! Olympics every 4 years. In general
Canadian TV sucks. They ought to get the government out of it!

So... Where is OLN "Bay Area" now? AT&T cable used to have it on ch. 404. Now COMCAST bought out
at&t... where the hell is OLN?

HELP!! Please.

-Ken

"brian roth" <[email hidden]...

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Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last
few years.

Apologies in advance to Canadian viewers who might not get any coverage at all.

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Where is OLN "Bay Area" now? AT&T cable used to have it on ch. 404. Now COMCAST bought out at&t...
where the hell is OLN?

Looks like they moved it to channel 81.

Whew!!

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"brian roth" <[email hidden]...

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Is it my imagination or was OLN touting "LIVE!" coverage of PR this year. As it is, there will
be 2 hours of same day coverage, but I could swear that it was going to be live as the last few
years.

No apologies...

Ken Papai said:

So... Where is OLN "Bay Area" now? AT&T cable used to have it on ch. 404. Now COMCAST bought out
at&t... where the hell is OLN?

HELP!! Please.

-Ken

The mental aspect is important in tv viewing too. You should get DirecTV and then I could help you.
Or better yet, get a DirecTivo box and tell it to record anything related to bike racing, and you
don't need to know the channel. You end up with a surprising amount of children's programming
involving bikes, but you also never miss the good stuff.

Bret

Last 2-3 years they (OLN) showed the final two hrs of the race LIVE, starting close to 7AM PDT.

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Has anyone noted yet that "live coverage" would occure at 4am eastern 1am Pacific? And yeah it
sucks that we only get 2 hrs of "highlights" in the states but he it beats the S H I T out of
fishing........

James P Spooner said:

Marlene (and everyone else),

Get a US dish. It's worth it. Plus you get almost every hockey game. There's a couple of
exciting teams i.e. Minnesota that are on lots. Paris-Nice was particularly good this year. It
was just Paul Sherwan

and a

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toned down, and thus better than ever Bob Roll. Live everyday. Even

Tour

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of Flanders was reasonable.

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"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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I don't want to hurt you Canadians. But after spending a year in Nova Scotia. GOD I GLAD to be
back in the USA if not only for better OLN programming.... Yes Canadian OLN SUCKS!

Canadian sports tv sucks. I like hockey as much as any canadian, but there are other sports.
You'd never know it though. The problem is that they are mostly geared toward older, tubby guys
who WATCH sports, but who don't do them. God forbid we encourage anyone to get up and out- the
ratings would fall!

However, our coverage of the olympics is envied by americans who are stuck with wretched putrid
NBC. NOthing but Commentators!

That not a fair trade off...I'll take the US OLN any day! Olympics every 4 years. In general
Canadian TV sucks. They ought to get the government out of it!

I agree with that, it's just that it's the one thing we seem to do better. The canadian broadcasting
regulators need to get into the modern age. They don't realize that canadians know what americans
are watching and we envy them! TV is one of the few things I envy about the USA- they have better
channels, better programming, more variety, and they aren't held hostage by regulations created in
the 1950s. I know there is a downside to the deregulation, and there is plenty of [censored] on american
tv, but they have a lot more variety than we do. We pay plenty for cable and satellite and get stuck
with tons of dreck.

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I know there is a downside to the deregulation, and there is plenty of [censored] on american tv, but
they have a lot more variety than we do.

Marlene, I know you can set your sights higher than variety of [censored] being superior to less [censored].

Carl Who adamantly agrees that plenty of American tv and most tv in general is [censored].

Marlene.. I spoke to you before about OLN Canada and the lack of cycling on
it. Well now that I'm back in the US I'm really enjoying OLN in the US. Sorry but Canada really has
to get up to the 21st. Century. It is a total disgrace that Canada is falling behind. There is
no need for it and I know most Canadians which it would. Time for a new PM "Marlene Blanshay"
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> I don't want to hurt you Canadians. But after spending a year in

Nova

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> Scotia. GOD I GLAD to be back in the USA if not only for better OLN programming.... Yes
> Canadian OLN SUCKS!

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are other sports. You'd never know it though. The problem is that they

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mostly geared toward older, tubby guys who WATCH sports, but who don't

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them. God forbid we encourage anyone to get up and out- the ratings

would

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fall!

However, our coverage of the olympics is envied by americans who are

stuck

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with wretched putrid NBC. NOthing but Commentators!

That not a fair trade off...I'll take the US OLN any day! Olympics every

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years. In general Canadian TV sucks. They ought to get the government

out

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of it!

I agree with that, it's just that it's the one thing we seem to do better. The canadian
broadcasting regulators need to get into the modern age. They don't realize that canadians know
what americans are watching and we envy them! TV is one of the few things I envy about the USA-
they have better channels, better programming, more variety, and they aren't held hostage by
regulations created in the 1950s. I know there is a downside to the deregulation, and there is
plenty of [censored] on american tv, but they have a lot more variety than we do. We pay plenty for
cable and satellite and get stuck with tons of dreck.

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Marlene.. I spoke to you before about OLN Canada and the lack of cycling on
it. Well now that I'm back in the US I'm really enjoying OLN in the US. Sorry but Canada really
has to get up to the 21st. Century. It is a total disgrace that Canada is falling behind.
There is no need for it and I know most Canadians which it would. Time for a new PM

I don't know how much a PM would make a difference, but there's no doubt that the canadian
broadcasting industry is stuck in neutral.

Incidentally, I remember reading that a lot of the digital channels are not doing that well because
they aren't getting that many subscribers. One of those was OLN. They could actually gain
subscribers if they actually showed skiing, cycling, etc, but they refuse to acknowledge this
possibility.

However, all is not lost. I read today that RAI international has applied to the CRTC (For
americans, that's the canadian equivalent of the FCC) to offer its 24 hour service to canadians.
We already have TElelatino, but it isn't exclusively italian. They do air some shows from RAI,
and a couple

because I didn't know it would be on, but I saw the last 20 minutes or so.

RAI international apparently does show cycling, natch. Of course, I am not getting my hopes up yet.
The CRTC may not go for it, or they may end up saying yes but changing it so that some stuff is
'canadian' and that means they'll probably ditch stuff they think no one will be interested in,
meaning cycling. But if we got RAI international, that could mean seeing the Giro and other races.
Of course, the commentary is in italian, but this is sports, it's not like you can't figure out
what's going on.