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  1. Just finished reading the enclosed CyclingNews item. The voices and
    microphones and video cams sound very much like the delusions associated
    with schizophrenia. If so, further evidence of a terrible tragedy larger
    than he could have possibly handled:

    Pantani's ex-manager publishes book in Italy

    Eight months after the tragic death of Marco Pantani in a hotel room in
    Rimini, Manula Ronchi, Pantanis ex-manager, has published an Italian book
    entitled A man on the run: The true story of Marco Pantani in
    collaboration with Gianfranco Josti, a sports journalist. In 260 pages,
    using the notes the cycling legend wrote during the last few months of his
    life, Ronchi recalls the Pirate's last years, beginning with the doping
    investigations after the Madonna di Campiglio searches on the Giro 1999
    until the drug addiction that led to his death on February 14, 2004.

    "Pantani thought that he was the victim of a conspiracy headed by the
    president of the Italian Cycling Federation, Giancarlo Ceruti", Ronchi
    wrote. "Marco was afraid at night. He thought he was spied on with
    microphones. He searched for video cameras in the whole house and heard
    voices on the roof. His obsessions were the anti-doping investigations and
    his girlfriend." Ronchi also relates the difficult partnership between
    Pantani and his former girlfriend Christina Jonsson.

    A part of the expected sales income will benefit the Marco Pantani
    foundation involved in fundraising projects. The film production company
    Colorado has already bought the rights to the book.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/oct04/oct21news2

  2. Clovis Lark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    The voices and

    Quoted message said:

    microphones and video cams sound very much like the delusions associated
    with schizophrenia.

    Ha, dude, have you never seen someone coked out? The way people act
    around here I'm sure we have examples.

  3. [email hidden] (Tom Hunter) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Clovis Lark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    The voices and

    Quoted message said:

    microphones and video cams sound very much like the delusions associated
    with schizophrenia.

    Ha, dude, have you never seen someone coked out? The way people act
    around here I'm sure we have examples.

    Yea, I've seen cokers, and I've seen diagnosed schizoids. This sounds
    like a real pathological problem, not a drug induced one.

  4. [email hidden] (Tom Hunter) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Clovis Lark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    The voices and

    Quoted message said:

    microphones and video cams sound very much like the delusions associated
    with schizophrenia.

    Ha, dude, have you never seen someone coked out? The way people act
    around here I'm sure we have examples.

    Exactly. I guess the middle America types aren't aware that coke and
    meth cause these schizoid episodes all the time. Cops have to be very
    careful with people in this condition because they are extremely
    unstable.

  5. Tom Kunich said:

    [email hidden] (Tom Hunter) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Clovis Lark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    The voices and

    Quoted message said:

    microphones and video cams sound very much like the delusions associated
    with schizophrenia.

    Ha, dude, have you never seen someone coked out? The way people act
    around here I'm sure we have examples.

    Quoted message said:

    Exactly. I guess the middle America types aren't aware that coke and
    meth cause these schizoid episodes all the time. Cops have to be very
    careful with people in this condition because they are extremely
    unstable.

    Get back to us when you understand the symptoms and causes of
    schizophrenia...

  6. "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Get back to us when you understand the symptoms and causes of
    schizophrenia...

    You are the expert on this subject.

  7. Tom Kunich said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Get back to us when you understand the symptoms and causes of
    schizophrenia...

    Quoted message said:

    You are the expert on this subject.

    Snigger, my ex-sister-in-law was diagnosed as such. I cannot begin to
    explain to you the pain she felt, the misery she went through, misery and
    pain that tore her family to shreds. But, as you say...

  8. "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Get back to us when you understand the symptoms and causes of
    schizophrenia...

    Quoted message said:

    You are the expert on this subject.

    Snigger, my ex-sister-in-law was diagnosed as such. I cannot begin to
    explain to you the pain she felt, the misery she went through, misery and
    pain that tore her family to shreds. But, as you say...

    Well, gee, then I guess watching the effects of coke and meth on my brother
    and then on his son means nothing. Here's a clue you ignorant ass - these
    drugs cause the same symptoms as schizophrenia. Not that you're going to
    believe that despite Marco Pantani showing such symptoms and using drugs
    heavily.

  9. Tom Kunich said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    "Clovis Lark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > Get back to us when you understand the symptoms and causes of
    > schizophrenia...

    Quoted message said:

    You are the expert on this subject.

    Snigger, my ex-sister-in-law was diagnosed as such. I cannot begin to
    explain to you the pain she felt, the misery she went through, misery and
    pain that tore her family to shreds. But, as you say...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, gee, then I guess watching the effects of coke and meth on my brother
    and then on his son means nothing. Here's a clue you ignorant ass - these
    drugs cause the same symptoms as schizophrenia. Not that you're going to
    believe that despite Marco Pantani showing such symptoms and using drugs
    heavily.

    Not that you are going to provide any concrete evidence, but let us know
    when you've conclusively documented Pantani's abuse to cover your
    assertion. Sorry about your brother.

  10. On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:41:18 +0000 (UTC) in rec.bicycles.racing,

    Clovis Lark said:

    Just finished reading the enclosed CyclingNews item. The voices and
    microphones and video cams sound very much like the delusions associated
    with schizophrenia. If so, further evidence of a terrible tragedy larger
    than he could have possibly handled:


    someone who's really strung out on cocaine, as he supposedly was
    those last few months, can become quite delusional and paranoid.
    it's a form of chemically induced bipolar illness.

    i've known several folks who became addicted to cocaine, and
    their behavior in the deepest stages of addiction was very
    paranoid. in both cases, it was behavior resulting from the
    paranoia that got them arrested, which probably saved their
    lives.

  11. On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:08:15 +0000 (UTC) in rec.bicycles.racing,

    Clovis Lark said:

    Get back to us when you understand the symptoms and causes of
    schizophrenia...

    it's obvious to those of us who have had to deal with paranoid
    (and extremely dangerous) cokeheads and meth tweakers that you
    don't have a clue.

    IT'S A DRUG INDUCED MENTAL ILLNESS. External chems or not, it
    presents as a manic psychosis.

    I know. I've had to deal with both addicts and the mentally ill.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    i've known several folks who became addicted to cocaine, and
    their behavior in the deepest stages of addiction was very
    paranoid. in both cases, it was behavior resulting from the
    paranoia that got them arrested, which probably saved their
    lives.

    Sorry to hear you've had to deal with that, but encouraged to know their
    lives were saved.

    I'm hoping they're doing well....

    -Bob

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