Panax Ginseng breakthrough

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Spamming Dave!

I would say he is back, but he never left.

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Dave said:

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Spammin' Dave! I knew you were lying when you said you were leaving.
Of course, you've never really been gone, since you were here under
your pathetically obvious "Teacher" identity.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
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Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/19/2003 11:43 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dave said:

http://www.scumbagspammerzone.com/f/m.asp?f=98&i=31

David has now reduced himself to Andrewish tactics.

And he has probably not even read the news about ginseng.

Some people never learn from the past.

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QUOTE WAS A HOAX, THE INTERNAL MEMO WAS A RECENT FORGERY

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Jan

I always find it funny when Jan posts something like this.
All the wisdom in the world, and she misses the point entirely.
I suspect she hasn't read it........
Comments on my favorite quotes below......

Quoted message said:

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." - Pierre
Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

With many of the comments Jan has made and the people she supports, I think
Jan probably agrees more with Pachet than Pasteur.

Quoted message said:

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." - Sir John Eric Ericksen,
British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria
1873.

???
Isn't Jan always going on about the number of deaths in hospitals? I would
have thought she would have agreed with the above statement. Nevertheless,
for the time it was actually a fairly accurate statement. Especially when
germs had only just been discovered and no one really knew how to stop the
buggers getting into wounds and incisions.

Quoted message said:

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered
as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to
us." - Western Union internal memo, 1876. I'VE HEARD ONE REPORT THAT THIS
QUOTE WAS A HOAX, THE INTERNAL MEMO WAS A RECENT FORGERY

And yet you post it anyway.....
Or was this written by someone else and you didn't see it when you cut and
pasted?

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Everything that can be invented has been invented." - Charles H.
Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. NO, THIS WAS A
MISQUOTE, HE NEVER SAID THIS. SKEPTICAL INQUIRER EVEN DEBUNKED THIS.

And yet you post it anyway.....
Or was this written by someone else and you didn't see it when you cut and
pasted?

Quoted message said:

"The more important fundamental laws and facts of physical science have
all been discovered, and these are now so firmly established that the
possibility of their ever being supplanted in consequence of new
discoveries is exceedingly remote.... Our future discoveries must be
looked for in the sixth place of decimals." - physicist Albert. A.
Michelson, 1894

Actually not that wrong, quantum mechanics tends to deal with the tiny, and
relavistic effects are almost un measurable under normal day to day
conditions.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Caterpillar landships are idiotic and useless. Those officers and men
are wasting their time and are not pulling their proper weight in the war"
- Fourth Lord of the British Admiralty, 1915, in regards to use of tanks
in war.

But he was over ruled by the first lord, Churchill, which was lucky since I
couldn't imagine living in a world without tanks.......

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." - Popular
Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

Correct, only the future being refurred to is now the past.

<snip>

And now my favorite incorrect statement-

MLM is the business plan of the future - what every up line says to his new
suckers

--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug

"Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I always find it funny when Jan posts something like this.
All the wisdom in the world, and she misses the point entirely.
I suspect she hasn't read it........
Comments on my favorite quotes below......

Quoted message said:

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." - Pierre
Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

With many of the comments Jan has made and the people she supports, I

think

Quoted message said:

Jan probably agrees more with Pachet than Pasteur.

Quoted message said:

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." - Sir John Eric Ericksen,
British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria
1873.

???
Isn't Jan always going on about the number of deaths in hospitals? I

would

Quoted message said:

have thought she would have agreed with the above statement.

Nevertheless,

Quoted message said:

for the time it was actually a fairly accurate statement. Especially when
germs had only just been discovered and no one really knew how to stop the
buggers getting into wounds and incisions.

Quoted message said:

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered
as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to
us." - Western Union internal memo, 1876. I'VE HEARD ONE REPORT THAT

THIS

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

QUOTE WAS A HOAX, THE INTERNAL MEMO WAS A RECENT FORGERY

And yet you post it anyway.....
Or was this written by someone else and you didn't see it when you cut and
pasted?

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Everything that can be invented has been invented." - Charles H.
Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. NO, THIS WAS A
MISQUOTE, HE NEVER SAID THIS. SKEPTICAL INQUIRER EVEN DEBUNKED THIS.

And yet you post it anyway.....
Or was this written by someone else and you didn't see it when you cut and
pasted?

Quoted message said:

"The more important fundamental laws and facts of physical science have
all been discovered, and these are now so firmly established that the
possibility of their ever being supplanted in consequence of new
discoveries is exceedingly remote.... Our future discoveries must be
looked for in the sixth place of decimals." - physicist Albert. A.
Michelson, 1894

Actually not that wrong, quantum mechanics tends to deal with the tiny,

and

Quoted message said:

relavistic effects are almost un measurable under normal day to day
conditions.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Caterpillar landships are idiotic and useless. Those officers and men
are wasting their time and are not pulling their proper weight in the

war"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

- Fourth Lord of the British Admiralty, 1915, in regards to use of tanks
in war.

But he was over ruled by the first lord, Churchill, which was lucky since

I

Quoted message said:

couldn't imagine living in a world without tanks.......

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." - Popular
Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

Correct, only the future being refurred to is now the past.

<snip>

And now my favorite incorrect statement-

MLM is the business plan of the future - what every up line says to his

new

Quoted message said:

suckers

And the reason you felt obligated to pretend to be superior was?

Quoted message said:

"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/19/2003 11:43 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dave said:

http://www.scumbagspammerzone.com/f/m.asp?f=98&i=31

David has now reduced himself to Andrewish tactics.

Actually, David is wRight about Davey the Ginseng Man. Davey exhibited
typical MLMer spammer behavior in a newsgroup where selling is against
the charter. Why do you condone bad behavior from your camp?

Quoted message said:

And he has probably not even read the news about ginseng.

Ginseng is not the topic, but Davey's badness is.

Quoted message said:

Some people never learn from the past.

And, there are those like you, who do not learn, period.

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: "Doug" [email hidden]
Date: 9/20/2003 6:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

I always find it funny when Jan posts something like this.

Quoted message said:

All the wisdom in the world, and she misses the point entirely.

Quoted message said:

I suspect she hasn't read it........
Comments on my favorite quotes below......

Umm, troll, you need to go back and see who posted it.

Try to get it right, while talking of wisdom and suspecting.

Jan

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

MLM is the business plan of the future - what every up line says to his

new

Quoted message said:

suckers

And the reason you felt obligated to pretend to be superior was?

I wasn't pretending.

--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: "Doug" [email hidden]
Date: 9/20/2003 6:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

I always find it funny when Jan posts something like this.

Quoted message said:

All the wisdom in the world, and she misses the point entirely.

Quoted message said:

I suspect she hasn't read it........
Comments on my favorite quotes below......

Umm, troll, you need to go back and see who posted it.

Try to get it right, while talking of wisdom and suspecting.

Jan

I dunno,
It came from your email address, so I assumed it was from you.
Do you think someone is pretending to be you and copying your style?

--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: "Doug" [email hidden]
Date: 9/20/2003 9:05 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: "Doug" [email hidden]
Date: 9/20/2003 6:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

I always find it funny when Jan posts something like this.

Quoted message said:

All the wisdom in the world, and she misses the point entirely.

Quoted message said:

I suspect she hasn't read it........
Comments on my favorite quotes below......

Umm, troll, you need to go back and see who posted it.

Try to get it right, while talking of wisdom and suspecting.

Jan

I dunno,

Well then look it up, lazy, then make sure before you go spouting off you
trolling mouth.

Quoted message said:

It came from your email address,

No I replied, I did not post it.

Quoted message said:

so I assumed it was from you.

Yes, you do a lot of assuming.

Quoted message said:

Do you think someone is pretending to be you and copying your style?

I wasn't the one making the ASSumption.

Do you not know how to look things up?

Jan

I was replying to your reply, not the original post.
Is that so hard to understand?
Are you that lacking in comprehension?
Is there anything between your two ears?
If I was to look in your ear, would I see light from the other side?

--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: "Doug" [email hidden]
Date: 9/20/2003 9:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

I was replying to your reply, not the original post.

You certainly were not. You were replying to what the original poster said, not
what I said.

Here is what I said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough

Quoted message said:

From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/19/2003 11:43 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dave said:

http://www.scumbagspammerzone.com/f/m.asp?f=98&i=31

*David has now reduced himself to Andrewish tactics.*

*And he has probably not even read the news about ginseng.*

*Some people never learn from the past.*
=========
You were trying to belittle me by using what the original poster posted, so you
can stop lying now.

Quoted message said:

Are you that lacking in comprehension?

Can't you admit you made a mistake? Rather than more sick attempts to belittle.

Quoted message said:

Is there anything between your two ears?
If I was to look in your ear, would I see light from the other side?

Proof, you are lying.

I always find it funny when Jan posts something like this.
All the wisdom in the world, and she misses the point entirely.
I suspect she hasn't read it........
Comments on my favorite quotes below......

Quoted message said:

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." - Pierre
Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

With many of the comments Jan has made and the people she supports, I think
Jan probably agrees more with Pachet than Pasteur.

Quoted message said:

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." - Sir John Eric Ericksen,
British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria
1873.

???
Isn't Jan always going on about the number of deaths in hospitals? I would
have thought she would have agreed with the above statement. Nevertheless,
for the time it was actually a fairly accurate statement. Especially when
germs had only just been discovered and no one really knew how to stop the
buggers getting into wounds and incisions.

Quoted message said:

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered
as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to
us." - Western Union internal memo, 1876. I'VE HEARD ONE REPORT THAT THIS
QUOTE WAS A HOAX, THE INTERNAL MEMO WAS A RECENT FORGERY

And yet you post it anyway.....
Or was this written by someone else and you didn't see it when you cut and
pasted?

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Everything that can be invented has been invented." - Charles H.
Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. NO, THIS WAS A
MISQUOTE, HE NEVER SAID THIS. SKEPTICAL INQUIRER EVEN DEBUNKED THIS.

And yet you post it anyway.....
Or was this written by someone else and you didn't see it when you cut and
pasted?

Quoted message said:

"The more important fundamental laws and facts of physical science have
all been discovered, and these are now so firmly established that the
possibility of their ever being supplanted in consequence of new
discoveries is exceedingly remote.... Our future discoveries must be
looked for in the sixth place of decimals." - physicist Albert. A.
Michelson, 1894

Actually not that wrong, quantum mechanics tends to deal with the tiny, and
relavistic effects are almost un measurable under normal day to day
conditions.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Caterpillar landships are idiotic and useless. Those officers and men
are wasting their time and are not pulling their proper weight in the war"
- Fourth Lord of the British Admiralty, 1915, in regards to use of tanks
in war.

But he was over ruled by the first lord, Churchill, which was lucky since I
couldn't imagine living in a world without tanks.......

<snip>

Quoted message said:

"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." - Popular
Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

Correct, only the future being refurred to is now the past.

<snip>

And now my favorite incorrect statement-

MLM is the business plan of the future - what every up line says to his new
suckers

--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug

Now get lost troll.

Jan

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Panax Ginseng breakthrough
From: "Doug" [email hidden]
Date: 9/20/2003 9:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

I was replying to your reply, not the original post.

You certainly were not. You were replying to what the original poster

said, not

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what I said.

<snip Jan's lack of comprehension>

I know what I was replying to, and it was you.
Those quotes from long dead people first appeared in your reply, that is
what I was replying to.
Not to lowlife Dave.
Not to David Wright.
To Jan, no one else.

--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"

Doug