I've got a Specialized Epic with Tioga DH 2.1's on it at the mo, I'm looking for something with a bit more of a good XC reputation and I see the Panaracers Fire XC's are heavily recommended. Could any help me choose between the 2.1's and 1.8's ??
I ride mostly Singletracks that aren't shodden with 10ft deep mud though do occasionaly come accross it. I feel like I should be buying the 1.8's but do you lose any grip compared to the 2.1's on climbs or anythign else notable?
I've got a Specialized Epic with Tioga DH 2.1's on it at the mo, I'm looking for something with a bit more of a good XC reputation and I see the Panaracers Fire XC's are heavily recommended. Could any help me choose between the 2.1's and 1.8's ??
I've not tried the Panaracers, but I do use Tioga Factory SL 1.8s, and TBH, I cant tell much difference in grip between them and the 2.1 tyres I had fitted before(which had really lumpy tread),but they are definitely easier to turn. I think a lot of it is down to riding style, if you are a 'light' rider who doesnt bash into roots/stones etc, then the thinner tyres are ok, if you are heavy on the tyres, then a bigger tyre may be better to stop punctures a little more. My cross bike has tubulars that are quite thin, with very little tread, but I never seem to lose grip with them - only when pedaling uphill on loose/wet ground does the back wheel start losing grip,and this is usually corrected by putting a bit more weight to the rear. Alan.
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I've got a Specialized Epic with Tioga DH 2.1's on it at the mo, I'm looking for something with a bit more of a good XC reputation and I see the Panaracers Fire XC's are heavily recommended. Could any help me choose between the 2.1's and 1.8's ??
I ride mostly Singletracks that aren't shodden with 10ft deep mud though do occasionaly come accross it. I feel like I should be buying the 1.8's but do you lose any grip compared to the 2.1's on climbs or anythign else notable?
My old hill bike - the one which I've put most time into tuning - has a 1.8" Panaracer Dart on the front and a very cheap 2.3" Panaracer Smoke copy on the back. In really soft going the relatively narrow front tyre cuts through mud to find something solid to steer on, while the relatively big rear tyre gets a lot of grip. The front and rear tyres of an offroad bike do very different things, and no one tread design is going to both well; since the excellent smoke/dart combination is no longer available my favourite tyres are Velociraptors.
"paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Hi,
I've got a Specialized Epic with Tioga DH 2.1's on it at the mo, I'm
looking
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for something with a bit more of a good XC reputation and I see the Panaracers Fire XC's are heavily recommended. Could any help me choose between the 2.1's and 1.8's ??
I are mostly riding 2.1 Fire XC's and do loike 'em. My mate, who is lighter at 10 1/2 Imperial Doings, has 1.8 and 2.1 XC's. Mostly he are riding the 2.1's in the Peak District but do put the 1.8's on occasionally for local bridleways but I don't think he really likes 'em, just uses 'em to justify the folly of the purchase.
"paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Hi,
I've got a Specialized Epic with Tioga DH 2.1's on it at the mo, I'm
looking
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for something with a bit more of a good XC reputation and I see the Panaracers Fire XC's are heavily recommended. Could any help me choose between the 2.1's and 1.8's ??
I ride mostly Singletracks that aren't shodden with 10ft deep mud though
do
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occasionaly come accross it. I feel like I should be buying the 1.8's but
do
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you lose any grip compared to the 2.1's on climbs or anythign else
notable?
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Help appreciated!
Regards
Paul.
Get the 2.1's, much better "all round" capability than the 1.8's (which have a different, less 'agressive' tread).
I've got a Specialized Epic with Tioga DH 2.1's on it at the mo, I'm looking for something with a bit more of a good XC reputation and I see the Panaracers Fire XC's are heavily recommended. Could any help me choose between the 2.1's and 1.8's ??
I ride mostly Singletracks that aren't shodden with 10ft deep mud though do occasionaly come accross it. I feel like I should be buying the 1.8's but do you lose any grip compared to the 2.1's on climbs or anythign else notable?
Velociraptors model? in the winter and lovely Panaracer Fire XC 1.8 for the rest of the year, and I love them.
But they come from two sources ? and on the cheaper ones riders have complained that the knobbly bits get ripped off. Sorry I cant give you details but a google of the NG's may help.
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But they come from two sources ? and on the cheaper ones riders have complained that the knobbly bits get ripped off.
Some are sourced from Japan and have a stencilled effect marking, supposed to give them a prototype appearance. Others are sourced from Taiwan and have a more normal label. It's been alleged that the Taiwanese ones have a lower TPI carcase so don't ride so well, I've used both types in 2.1 and can't notice a difference and the knobs certainly haven't broken off even though now well worn down by use. Easy to ID them, one sort has Made In Japan embossed on the sidewall and the other has Made In Taiwan embossed on the sidewall, so unsubtle even I noticed :-)
