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Grand Prix de la Région Wallonne - C2
Dottignies, Belgium, October 1, 2005
2004 Results Results Past winners

Results
Men Elite

1 Bart Wellens (Bel) 1.02.32
2 Niels Albert (Bel)
3 Sven Van Thourenhout (Bel)
4 Erwin Vervecken (Bel) 0.11
5 John Gadret (Fra) 0.13
6 Tim Van Nuffel (Bel)
7 Jonathan Page (USA) 0.15

The current paper issue of VeloNews has a nice article on him. He and his
wife have really made a commitment to focus on a Euro Cross career. The
focus appears to be paying off. Bravo!

I keep wondering if he is doing it naturally given that he is suppose
to be good buds with De Clerq. If he is, his results are pretty
impressive given the assumption that most of those top guys are
probably doped to the gills, see Berden's comments just before he got
popped for EPO last year claiming the only reason Wellens and Nijs were
consistently ahead of him was their better medical programs.

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I keep wondering if he is doing it naturally given that he is suppose
to be good buds with De Clerq. If he is, his results are pretty
impressive given the assumption that most of those top guys are
probably doped to the gills, see Berden's comments just before he got
popped for EPO last year claiming the only reason Wellens and Nijs were
consistently ahead of him was their better medical programs.

That is so unfair. Wellens and Nys can't defend themselves. All they can say
is that they never tested positive, but that is obviously not enough for
some people. You're anti-Belgian.Whatever happened to innocent unless proven
guilty. There is no evidence.

What do you think of the case against Mario De Clerq?

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What do you think of the case against Mario De Clerq?

Well, obviously it's another anti-Belgian conspiracy against a talented
author who cannot defend himself.

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That is so unfair. Wellens and Nys can't defend themselves. All they can say
is that they never tested positive, but that is obviously not enough for
some people. You're anti-Belgian.Whatever happened to innocent unless proven
guilty. There is no evidence.

lol, how long have you been waiting to write this post, i wonder...i
hope you feel better now 😉

h

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

That is so unfair. Wellens and Nys can't defend themselves. All they can
say is that they never tested positive, but that is obviously not enough
for some people. You're anti-Belgian.Whatever happened to innocent unless
proven guilty. There is no evidence.

lol, how long have you been waiting to write this post, i wonder...i hope
you feel better now 😉

h

About twentytwo seconds.

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

That is so unfair. Wellens and Nys can't defend themselves. All they can
say is that they never tested positive, but that is obviously not enough
for some people. You're anti-Belgian.Whatever happened to innocent unless
proven guilty. There is no evidence.

lol, how long have you been waiting to write this post, i wonder...i hope
you feel better now 😉

h

About twentytwo seconds.

yeah, i should have factored in how much quicker you are at things then
i am (projecting always leads me astray, sorry)
h

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I keep wondering if he is doing it naturally given that he is suppose
to be good buds with De Clerq. If he is, his results are pretty
impressive given the assumption that most of those top guys are
probably doped to the gills, <cut>

i say he's doing it naturally despite his alliances
with mdq. there is a reason he hasn't cracked the
top tier yet.
e-RICHIE

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What do you think of the case against Mario De Clerq?

Well, obviously it's another anti-Belgian conspiracy against a talented
author who cannot defend himself.

If you read Coyles book, you know that all Belgians are thugs. ;-)

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I keep wondering if he is doing it naturally given that he is suppose
to be good buds with De Clerq. If he is, his results are pretty
impressive given the assumption that most of those top guys are
probably doped to the gills, <cut>

i say he's doing it naturally despite his alliances
with mdq. there is a reason he hasn't cracked the
top tier yet.
e-RICHIE

There we go. You mean to say there are two speeds of racing in Belgium,
just like in France?

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i say he's doing it naturally despite his alliances
with mdq. there is a reason he hasn't cracked the
top tier yet.
e-RICHIE

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There we go. You mean to say there are two speeds of racing in Belgium,
just like in France?

there might be 6 speeds for all i know - but there are maybe
two good reasons that a guy is always in the front group; one
of them is a good corporate culture backing his travel, equipment,
and other logistics, and the other is more related to natural talent.
e-RICHIE

No, there are two speeds in cross wherever you might be geogrpahically;
the Belgium speed and everyone else's.

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No, there are two speeds in cross wherever you might be geogrpahically;
the Belgium speed and everyone else's.

hey - thanks for cleraing all that up.
e-RICHIE

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:

>That is so unfair. Wellens and Nys can't defend themselves. All they can
>say is that they never tested positive, but that is obviously not enough
>for some people. You're anti-Belgian.Whatever happened to innocent
>unless proven guilty. There is no evidence.

lol, how long have you been waiting to write this post, i wonder...i hope
you feel better now 😉

h

About twentytwo seconds.

yeah, i should have factored in how much quicker you are at things then i
am (projecting always leads me astray, sorry)
h

But not necessarily better...

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i say he's doing it naturally despite his alliances
with mdq. there is a reason he hasn't cracked the
top tier yet.
e-RICHIE

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There we go. You mean to say there are two speeds of racing in Belgium,
just like in France?

there might be 6 speeds for all i know - but there are maybe
two good reasons that a guy is always in the front group; one
of them is a good corporate culture backing his travel, equipment,
and other logistics, and the other is more related to natural talent.
e-RICHIE

He also mentioned in the VN article that he now has a young daughter who
motivates him to do well. I hope he's clean.

Remember a couple of years ago they let them enter 2 six-man teams
rather than the normal 1 in the Belgium round of the World Cup and they
took the top 10 spots!

and you're weclome 🙂

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Remember a couple of years ago they let them enter 2 six-man teams
rather than the normal 1 in the Belgium round of the World Cup and they
took the top 10 spots!

and you're weclome 🙂

and i think those waffles are over rated too.
the lace is cool though.
e-RICHIE

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What do you think of the case against Mario De Clerq?

Well, obviously it's another anti-Belgian conspiracy against a talented
author who cannot defend himself.

If you read Coyles book, you know that all Belgians are thugs. ;-)

Dumbass,

You should know better than to say things like that.

You might get whoof-shrugged.