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  1. "Mike Pearce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3Id%b.3360$Ri6.1334@lakeread04...

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    "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040225211604.10161.00000319@mb-
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    Made correctly arros con pollo is a lot more involved than paella,


    especially

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    to get a nice thick 'bun' without it burning... you need a large


    (8-10qts)

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    well

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    seasoned cast pan (thick cast aluminum is best) and at least three hours


    time

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    for it to bake in the oven.... and don't forget to include the gandules, manzilla olives, and
    chorizo.

    I know a lot of different Hispanic cultures make arroz con pollo and what you say may well be true
    for some. My Cuban relatives would never think of putting it in the oven, using olives or adding
    chorizo.

    -Mike

    Absolutely not in the Puerto Rican version either!!!

    In fact, the only rice I've ever seen made in an oven in PR was called "Arroz Vago" (Lazy Rice)...
    something a TV cook came up with (I believe it was Luis Antonio Cosme) to make for a party so that
    the hosts didn't have to be at the stove too much...

    I can't recall the ingredients offhand, but then again I'm still recovering from the shock of seeing
    the Food 911 episode where Tyler Florence was supposed to make PR food... he made Arroz con Gandules
    (he calls it arroz DE gandules and that's exactlty how it's written on the website) with dried
    pigeon peas that are never used for rice - only stewed or in soups... with the wide range
    availability of frozen/canned pigeon peas, I have no idea why he would use dry... after he starts
    cooking it up with at least half of the ingredients of the sofrito missing, and adding cayenne
    pepper & lime juice to it (never!!!) he proceeds to cook it in the oven... this is where we started
    groaning... but the worst was yet to come!!! when he served it up he topped it with some chopped
    cilantro and slices of lime!!! he sure knows how to mix up cuisines!!!

    The only thing he made right were the ripe plantain slices, even though he called them plaNtanos and
    not platanos (on the webite too!!!) but really, this kind of rice, if served with plantains, it's
    usually tostones (savory), not platanos maduros (sweet).

    I think he does better with Tyler's Ultimate... and only because we get to see other cooks at
    work... LOVED the Paella show... too bad it's not on again before Elaine has to cook it up...

    Now that I feel better, I think I'll finish typing up the recipe to Arroz con Gandules that I
    owe Tranch...

    Sandra

  2. Mike Pearce said:

    "Richard Periut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Arroz Con Pollo A La Chorrera (Yellow Rice With Chicken & Bitter Beer)

    This is a popular Cuban dish, which blends the flavors of the Old World (Spain), with the New
    World (The Americas). It is of Cuban origin, and very much eaten amongst Cubans. The beer should
    be a bitter one like Fosters Bitter, or Pilzner Uriquel from Czechoslovakia. There are many
    versions out there, but this one is taken from an old Cuban cookbook written by the Julia Childs
    of Cuba (Nitza Villapol.) I have tasted dozens of versions, and this one seems to be the most
    authentic and popular.

    Ingredients:

    1 Chicken (about 3.4 to 4 pounds)

    Olive Oil) one quarter of a cup

    1 Medium White Onion (Finely chopped)

    3 Cloves of Garlic (minced)

    1 Medium Sized Green Bell Pepper Finely Chopped (Remove seeds from the peppers you will use)

    Salt & Fresh Cracked Black Pepper To Taste

    2 Cups of Water

    2 cups of Rice (The best rice to use is called pearl rice, also known as short grained rice, also
    known as risotto Italian rice) It is not long grained! It is more like short spherical grains,
    although not that spherical. (This is an essential part of the recipe) Goya has a good version.

    1 Red Bell Pepper that has been charred all over an open flame. ( Just put the pepper on an open
    flame, turning every now and then, until black all over. When cool to touch, take the black skin
    off under running cold water. Cut into strips of about the length of the pepper, and set aside for
    the decoration of the dish.

    Saffron half a teaspoon of threads (Very Important for the dish. It is

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    imparts the dish its flavor.) If you wish, with the saffron, you may add half a teaspoon of yellow
    coloring (like Tumeric).

    3 Tablespoons of Tomato Paste

    2 Cups (or more if needed) of Bitter Beer.

    Half a Cup of Loose Green Peas or (Petit Pouis) Little tiny green peas that sometimes come frozen
    or canned.

    Take the chicken and cut it into drumsticks, thighs, wings, and breast cut in quarters. Save the
    rest of the carcass for chicken stock if you want. I like to remove the skin from the breast and
    thighs, but leave it on the wings and drum sticks.

    Clean under cold water, and pat dry each piece with paper towels.

    In a Dutch Oven add the olive oil. Heat at medium/high heat for a couple of minutes so that the
    chicken sizzles when placed in the pot.

    Add the chicken pieces one by one to form an almost single layer. Do not overcrowd or pot will
    cool and chicken wont brown nicely. Add salt & pepper to taste. When browned on one side, turn
    over, and again, salt & pepper to taste. You may need to do it in two batches (depending on the
    size of the pot.)

    Cook over medium/high heat until golden on both sides. Remove the chicken from the pt, and
    place aside. Discard all but about 2 tablespoons of fat from the pot. Scrape the pieces of
    chicken that are stuck to the pot, with a wooden spoon. When the oil is hot again, add the
    onions and green bell pepper, and saffron threads broken up with your fingers. Sauté until
    onion is a little transparent. Afterwards, add the garlic (avoid burning the garlic which
    imparts a harsh flavor to the food) and stir for a minute or two more.

    Now, add the 3 tablespoons of tomato paste, and cook for another two minutes, while stirring.

    After the two minutes, return the chicken to the pot, add the rice, and stir. Cook for another
    minute. Now add the two cups of water, and stir the whole thing. Cover with a lid, lower the heat
    to low/medium (make sure the rice doesn't burn), and cook for 30 minutes. During those 30 minutes,
    you must stir the dish about 2 times. No more than that or you will break the chicken and make the
    rice very gooey. If you find that the rice is sticking to the bottom, scrape it gently, and lower
    the heat.

    After the 30 minutes, add half of the green peas (save the rest for decoration), and add the beer
    (you may add more beer if you notice that the rice is too dry; use judgment.) Stir it once more,
    to get all the beer into the rice. Lower the heat to low. Cover again, and cook for another 15 to
    20 minutes until the liquid is absorbed. The rice should be fluffy, and not hard, nor too mushy.
    If it is hard, add a little (half

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    cup) more beer, and cover and cook over low heat for another 10 minutes. You may sometimes need to
    repeat the last step 2 or three times.)

    Correct for salt & black pepper to taste.

    After that, give it a good stir, transfer to a large serving plate, and add the remaining peas
    on top. Arrange long slices of the charred red pepper, so as to adorn the dish.

    Serve with a nice cold beer that you were using for the cooking. A complete delicious and
    nutritious meal in one!

    Enjoy,

    This recipe is fairly close to the way my grandmother and mother would make Arroz con Pollo.
    They'd use dry sherry rather than beer and add it when the water was added for the rice. They
    would also use tomatoes rather than tomato paste. Oh, and bijol rather than saffron.

    Arroz con pollo is just about my favorite Cuban dish. When I was growing up it was something
    special when we had it. I have very fond memories of Sunday dinners over my Grandmother's house
    eating arroz con pollo with all of my cousins. My mom and I were just talking about it the other
    night. I've got to make some soon.

    -Mike


    Don't forget some tostones and platanitos maduros with a plain tomatoe and lettuce salad drizzled
    with Spanish EVOO : )

    Rich

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    Dum spiro, spero. (Cicero) As long as I breathe, I hope.

  3. elaine said:

    My turn to do the neighbourhood 'get together'. I thought I'd make paella with sausage, chicken
    and shrimp. I cannot put mussels or clams in and saffron is very expensive (does it actually
    have a taste?).

    Oh, yes. I'm not sure where you live, but here (central NC, USA) I can get saffron at the local
    Indian market for practically nothing (about $5/vial). I use it when I made a So. African rice dish:

    SOUTH AFRIKAN SAFFRON RICE [350F] [4 SERVINGS] 4 tbsp button or ghee 1 C rice 2 C fish, beef or
    chicken stock
    1/4 tsp saffron or 1/2 tsp turmeric 1 C raisins
    2/2 tsp cinnamon 1 tsp brown sugar

    Heat butter or ghee in a skillet. Add rice and saute for 5 minutes, or until golden brown. Add stock
    and bring to a boil. Immediately remove from heat and add the rest of the ingredients. Pour into a
    baking dish, cover and bake for 45 minutes. For crispier rice, uncover the dish for the last 15
    minutes of baking.

    <snip>

    --
    Darryl L. Pierce <[email hidden]> Visit the Infobahn Offramp - <http://mypage.org/mcpierce>
    "What do you care what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"

  4. Quoted message said:

    From: "Darryl L. Pierce,,," [email hidden]

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    Oh, yes. I'm not sure where you live, but here (central NC, USA) I can get saffron at the local
    Indian market for practically nothing (about $5/vial).

    [ . . . ]

    Be careful that it really is saffron. There's something called false saffron -- the stamens of
    another flower -- that is not as fragrant.

    E. P.

  5. Julian9EHP said:
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    Oh, yes. I'm not sure where you live, but here (central NC, USA) I can get saffron at the local
    Indian market for practically nothing (about $5/vial).

    Be careful that it really is saffron. There's something called false saffron -- the stamens of
    another flower -- that is not as fragrant.

    To be honest, I've no idea how to determine this since I've never had the two stigmas side-by-side
    to compare. But, the ones I buy are quite fragrant and seem to be the real thing.

    --
    Darryl L. Pierce <[email hidden]> Visit the Infobahn Offramp - <http://mypage.org/mcpierce>
    "What do you care what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"

  6. "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Mike Pearce" writes:

    I know a lot of different Hispanic cultures make arroz con pollo and what you say may well be
    true for some. My Cuban relatives would never think


    of

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    putting it in the oven, using olives or adding chorizo.

    Merely being from a Latin country is no indication one knows to cook.

    Absolutely true. Not all of my relatives from Cuba are good cooks, but my Mom, and my aunts Alicia,
    Berta and Lydia are all very good cooks, at least when it comes to Cuban food.

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    There are as many versions of arroz con pollo as there are cooks. who make it.. perhaps your
    relatives lack imagination.

    You might be on to something here. My mother and and grandmother rarely, if ever, varied from the
    tried and true recipes they'd learned. When I was growing up they would both look at me like I was
    about to commit sacrilege when I would suggest a doing something different with a dish.

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    And it's more authentic for Latins to
    color rice with achiote, not saffron.

    Yup, my family always uses bijol. Achiote (annatto) is one of the ingredients in bijol. I doubt my
    mother has ever even seen saffron.

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    The version I learned to make necessitates leaving the chicken whole, baked until the rice forms a
    thick golden crust (rice bun) whereas the entire potful is upturned onto a


    platter

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    for presentation. Done properly the dish begins the previous night


    (chicken is

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    marinated) and requires a full day's attention to ready it for dinner.


    Hardly

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    pays to prepare wimpy quantites... I use three whole roasting chickens,


    the

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    largest I can find... in a 20 quart pot.

    I'm sure it's delicious. It's just different than what I ate growing up. The crusty rice is my
    favorite part of arroz con pollo.

    -Mike

  7. "Foxy Lady" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The only thing he made right were the ripe plantain slices, even though he called them plaNtanos
    and not platanos (on the webite too!!!) but really, this kind of rice, if served with plantains,
    it's usually tostones


    (savory),

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    not platanos maduros (sweet).

    I don't know if this is a Cuban thing or just something in my family, but I never knew that anyone
    would ever prepare unripe platanos (tostones) until I was much older and exposed to Latin cooking
    outside of my family. When I was a kid it was a huge treat to have platanos maduros. Plantains were
    not in every market back then like they are now so it wasn't very often that we had them. When ever
    we'd get them my sister and I would keep asking my mom, "are they black enough yet?" We never called
    them either plantains or maduros, they were just platanos fritos.

    I've never developed a taste for tostones. I have some Puerto Rican friends who were just the
    opposite and never liked maduros.

    -Mike

  8. "elaine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:403d3617$1_1@aeinews....

    Quoted message said:

    My turn to do the neighbourhood 'get together'. I thought I'd make


    paella

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    with sausage, chicken and shrimp. I cannot put mussels or clams in and saffron is very expensive
    (does it actually have a taste?). Tried and


    true

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    recipes would be appreciated - could I add red pepper flakes to make it hotter.... or
    curry powder?

    If you cannot afford to do paella right then don't do it. I am not trying to be offensive but if you
    think that adding curry powder to paella is OK then you really need to step back, take a deep
    breath, and consider something else for your get together.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  9. "Barlovento" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I just bought a packet of Zaffron in a Oriental grocery store the size of a cigarrete pack for
    1.99 ( yes one dollar and ninentynine cents) They told me it is not the best quality but at that
    price I can use the whole pack in one dish! On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:53:30 -0500, "elaine"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    This is probably "[censored] saffron" (some other part of the saffron crocus not the flower stigmas) or
    maybe even just alizaran yellow food colouring. Real saffron is dark red threads about half and inch
    long, not a powder. If you just want yellow colour with no flavour alizaran yellow is cheap and
    effective, a little goes a long way!

    David

  10. " I am not trying to be offensive but if you think that adding curry powder to paella is OK then you
    really need to step back, take a deep breath, and consider something else for your get together."

    No, not offended...obviously curry powder is not a good fit. Which is why I asked. Will wait and
    do paella correctly and have made a curry for tonight.

    E.

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