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  1. I'm fairly new to running (2.5 months so far) and have really been enjoying myself. I run about 3
    times a week and bike on a trainer between 2 and 3 times a week, although this week I only biked
    once. I've signed up for a 5K race, to get a baseline for my training, in a few weeks. I'm trying to
    get under 25 minutes in this race. Whats the best way to work on pacing? I suspect that track
    workouts will probably be whats recommended, but I thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thanks CD

  2. C. Dorr said:

    I'm fairly new to running (2.5 months so far) and have really been enjoying myself. I run about 3
    times a week and bike on a trainer between 2 and 3 times a week, although this week I only biked
    once. I've signed up for a 5K race, to get a baseline for my training, in a few weeks. I'm trying
    to get under 25 minutes in this race. Whats the best way to work on pacing? I suspect that track
    workouts will probably be whats recommended, but I thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thanks CD

    CD - Looking at your training week report, you ran 4.6 miles at 7:46 pace. To run your sub-25 5k,
    you need an 8min/mile pace, so it shouldn't be a problem. In fact, with the added adrenaline of a
    race, not to mention your 1st race, you could surprise yourself!

    Track workouts *are* a good idea. You get the exact distance, and get a good feel for race pace. Try
    running some 400m or 800m repeats at your planned race pace (8:00/mile = 5:00/km = 2:00/400m or
    4:00/800m), with light jogging rest in between.

    Good luck!

    Anthony.

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    I'm fairly new to running (2.5 months so far) and have really been enjoying myself. I run about 3
    times a week and bike on a trainer between 2 and 3 times a week, although this week I only biked
    once. I've signed up for a 5K race, to get a baseline for my training, in a few weeks. I'm trying
    to get under 25 minutes in this race. Whats the best way to work on pacing? I suspect that track
    workouts will probably be whats recommended, but I thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thanks CD

    You will learn pacing through experience. Track workouts will give you an idea of what a particular
    pace feels like.

    But the best method I've discovered for learning pace is guessing my finishing time for a training
    run. Time yourself on certain routes that you run regularly. As you are going estimate your
    finishing time whitout looking at your watch. It may take a few months or years but I've been able
    to learn to predict my finishing time to within 5 or 10 seconds over 6 miles based on how I feel.

    You may need to start off by paying close attention to your watch and note the times as you pass
    landmarks. But there is no "easy" way to simply acquire the skill of pacing without practice.

    good luck, Andy

  4. Thanks for the tips Anthony. I'm going to try and get in one track workout before this race to see
    how I do on pacing.

    Thanks again. Chris D.

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    C. Dorr said:

    I'm fairly new to running (2.5 months so far) and have really been


    enjoying

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    myself. I run about 3 times a week and bike on a trainer between 2 and


    3

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    times a week, although this week I only biked once. I've signed up for


    a 5K

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    race, to get a baseline for my training, in a few weeks. I'm trying to


    get

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    under 25 minutes in this race. Whats the best way to work on pacing? I suspect that track
    workouts will probably be whats recommended, but I thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thanks CD

    CD - Looking at your training week report, you ran 4.6 miles at 7:46 pace.


    To

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    run your sub-25 5k, you need an 8min/mile pace, so it shouldn't be a


    problem.

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, with the added adrenaline of a race, not to mention your 1st


    race, you

    Quoted message said:

    could surprise yourself!

    Track workouts *are* a good idea. You get the exact distance, and get a


    good

    Quoted message said:

    feel for race pace. Try running some 400m or 800m repeats at your planned


    race

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    pace (8:00/mile = 5:00/km = 2:00/400m or 4:00/800m), with light jogging


    rest in

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    between.

    Good luck!

    Anthony.

  5. You don't have to do speed training on a track, tho'; you can use the road or a trail, and use time
    instead of distance for your reps. Say instead of 800 metres you run for 3½ minutes at your
    perceived race speed, recover, do it again ... etc. There are lots of articles on the web about
    speed training and the paces you should aim for. You can also do fartlek - choosing an object some
    way off to sprint to, jogging after, and then choosing another object etc. Jonathan "Anthony"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    C. Dorr said:

    I'm fairly new to running (2.5 months so far) and have really been


    enjoying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    myself. I run about 3 times a week and bike on a trainer between 2 and


    3

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    times a week, although this week I only biked once. I've signed up for


    a 5K

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    race, to get a baseline for my training, in a few weeks. I'm trying to


    get

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    under 25 minutes in this race. Whats the best way to work on pacing? I suspect that track
    workouts will probably be whats recommended, but I thought I'd ask anyways.

    Thanks CD

    CD - Looking at your training week report, you ran 4.6 miles at 7:46 pace.


    To

    Quoted message said:

    run your sub-25 5k, you need an 8min/mile pace, so it shouldn't be a


    problem.

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, with the added adrenaline of a race, not to mention your 1st


    race, you

    Quoted message said:

    could surprise yourself!

    Track workouts *are* a good idea. You get the exact distance, and get a


    good

    Quoted message said:

    feel for race pace. Try running some 400m or 800m repeats at your planned


    race

    Quoted message said:

    pace (8:00/mile = 5:00/km = 2:00/400m or 4:00/800m), with light jogging


    rest in

    Quoted message said:

    between.

    Good luck!

    Anthony.

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    Thanks for the tips Anthony. I'm going to try and get in one track workout before this race to see
    how I do on pacing.

    A comment about the race setting: the fact that you're surrounded by runners who are also racing
    presents an illusion -- you will always underestimate your pace near the start of the race. It will
    require a lot of restraint to hold yourself back to an 8:00 pace for the first mile. If your body is
    screaming "FASTER! FASTER!", it's a good sign.

    The track work will help a little bit, but pacing when you're on your own is a very different game
    to pacing when you're in a crowded race.

    In something as short as a 5k, the first mile will be pure chaos. You will get some people who don't
    even do the first 800m at an even place. There will be people dropping back and moving forward, and
    the best thing you can do is ignore what everyone else is doing, and focus on getting to the first
    mile marker at an easy pace. Maintain your momentum through the start of the second mile, or pick up
    a bit if your first split was slow. About 4 minutes into the second mile, make your move, start
    looking to overtake other competitors. When you hit the 2 mile mark, treat it as a 1 mile race and
    just go for it.

    Based on your other race time, my prediction is that you will break 25 minutes for 5k, regardless of
    the race strategy you use. Also, if you hold back enough to do the first mile in about 8 minutes,
    I'd predict that you will surprise yourself with your pace on the second and third miles.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

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