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  1. Original post
    Colin Blackburn
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    #1

    From:

    news.bbc.co.uk3810337.stm

    """ Cyclists win rush-hour challenge

    Cyclists have proved the fastest rush-hour commuters in a
    city centre challenge between walkers, drivers, cyclists, a
    bus and a wheelchair.

    Everyone taking part was timed from Cowley Road to Oxford
    train station.

    All four cyclists won the challenge, finishing in 10 or 11
    minutes, while a unicyclist and a motorised wheelchair user
    came joint second in 20 minutes.

    Bus users took 21 minutes, while two car drivers took 26 and
    34 minutes - just ahead of the walkers.

    Those taking part set off at 0815 BST on Tuesday.

    The Cycling Campaign for Oxford, or Cyclox, who organised
    the event, said the results mirrored last year's challenge
    along Oxford's Botley Road.

    They hope to repeat the 2.2-mile Cowley Road route next year
    to see whether £1m of safety improvements has any effect on
    the results.

    James Styring, Cyclox co-ordinator and organiser of today's
    event, said: "Yet again, on a different cross-city route,
    the bike is quicker than any other form of transport at peak
    commuting times." """

    The accompanying photo is not of a Cowley Road cyclist.

    Colin

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  2. Ewoud Dronkert
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    #2
    Colin Blackburn said:

    Cyclists win rush-hour challenge

    Ah damn, I was expecting a Boat Race revenge event.

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  3. Robert Bruce
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    mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone taking part was timed from Cowley Road to Oxford
    train station.

    I was taught at school thirty [cough] years ago that "train
    station" is a vulgar Americanism and that "railway station"
    is the correct term. I note that the BBC is continuing its
    project of dumbing down to the level of BSkyB by employing
    journalists who are unaware of this. They'll be mis-spelling
    "gaol" next...

    --
    Rob

    Please keep conversations in the newsgroup so that all may
    contribute and benefit.

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  4. Colin Blackburn
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    #4
    Robert Bruce said:

    mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone taking part was timed from Cowley Road to Oxford
    train station.

    I was taught at school thirty [cough] years ago that
    "train station" is a vulgar Americanism and that "railway
    station" is the correct term.

    Of course an American educated at a similar time and in a
    similar place would also consider it vulgar since (their)
    correct term is railroad station.

    Quoted message said:

    I note that the BBC is continuing its project of dumbing
    down to the level of BSkyB by employing journalists who
    are unaware of this.

    I suspect a Cyclox press release uses the term. online BBC
    stories are little more than pasted in press releases. They
    have to fill the space somehow.

    Colin

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  5. James Hodson
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    Robert Bruce said:

    They'll be mis-spelling "gaol" next...

    "Penitentiary", innit?

    James Jr

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  6. Just Zis Guy
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    James Hodson said:
    Quoted message said:

    They'll be mis-spelling "gaol" next...


    "Penitentiary", innit?

    "Jug", shirley?
    --
    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
    posting. chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

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  7. James Hodson
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    #7
    you know? said:
    James Hodson said:
    Quoted message said:

    They'll be mis-spelling "gaol" next...


    "Penitentiary", innit?

    "Jug", shirley?

    House of correction, missus.

    James 111 (just thought about grandfather)

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  8. Will H
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    pedant! Have you ever considered appearing on a Radio 4
    quiz panel?

    ========
    "Robert Bruce" <willbedeletedoffserver@analytical-
    dynamics.co.uk> wrote in message news:2jap9fFvatstU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone taking part was timed from Cowley Road to
    Oxford train station.

    I was taught at school thirty [cough] years ago that
    "train station" is a vulgar Americanism and that "railway
    station" is the correct term. I note that the BBC is
    continuing its project of dumbing down to the level of


    BSkyB

    Quoted message said:

    by employing journalists who are unaware of this. They'll
    be mis-spelling "gaol" next...

    --
    Rob

    Please keep conversations in the newsgroup so that all may
    contribute and benefit.

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  9. Nick Kew
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    #9

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Colin Blackburn said:

    Cyclists win rush-hour challenge

    No surprise there.

    But a unicyclist and a wheelchair beating the other modes:
    that's impressive. Good thing I finished my coffee before
    usenetting.

    LOL!

    --
    Nick Kew

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  10. Colin Blackburn
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    On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:01:21 +0100, Nick Kew <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Colin

    Blackburn said:

    Cyclists win rush-hour challenge

    No surprise there.

    But a unicyclist and a wheelchair beating the other modes:
    that's impressive.

    No real surprise for that route. Cars and buses have to take
    a longer route around the very centre of town, in fact the
    cars have to take a very long tortuous route (good!). Peds
    and wheelchairs can take a very direct route. Cyclists can
    be fairly direct---they can't go the wrong way down a bus
    only one-way street unlike the peds and wheelchairs. Addinto
    that the general congestion on Cowley Road and near the
    railway station and it's no contest really. My guess is that
    the walker went the wrong way or were a slow walker.

    Colin

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  11. Mark South
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    "James Hodson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:20:58 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you

    know? said:
    James Hodson said:

    > They'll be mis-spelling "gaol" next...
    "Penitentiary", innit?

    "Jug", shirley?

    House of correction, missus.

    ITYM "Mistress" !?
    --
    "A kilt opens up new possibilities."
    - Gary D. Schwartz in rec.backcountry

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  12. James Hodson
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    #12
    Mark South said:
    Quoted message said:

    House of correction, missus.

    ITYM "Mistress" !?

    Mark

    As I said to you a while ago, I've only visited the airport
    in Geveva. I have no knowledge of its seedier areas!

    James

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  13. Mark South
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    #13

    "James Hodson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mark South said:
    Quoted message said:

    House of correction, missus.

    ITYM "Mistress" !?

    As I said to you a while ago, I've only visited the
    airport in Geveva. I have no knowledge of its
    seedier areas!

    Just ask the taxi to take you to Bataclan or L'Aigle
    d'Or. They are the sharp clubs to visit. Well so I'm
    told, of course.

    This being ultraclean Switzerland, the clubs are of course
    located in highly respectable areas.
    --
    "You need to declare a jihad on your own ignorant ass."
    - Ed Dolan in alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent

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  14. Jeremy Parker
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    #14

    "Robert Bruce" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    mae <[email hidden]> wedi ysgrifennu:

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone taking part was timed from Cowley Road to
    Oxford train station.

    I was taught at school thirty [cough] years ago that
    "train


    station" is a

    Quoted message said:

    vulgar Americanism

    [snip]

    Which reminds me, has anyone else seen John Forester's
    paper on why

    Jeremy Parker

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  15. Just Zis Guy
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    #15
    Jeremy Parker said:

    Which reminds me, has anyone else seen John Forester's
    paper on why

    No. Got a link?

    --
    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
    posting. chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

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  16. Richard Stamper
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    #16
    Colin Blackburn said:
    Nick Kew said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Colin

    Blackburn said:

    Cyclists win rush-hour challenge

    No surprise there.

    But a unicyclist and a wheelchair beating the other
    modes: that's impressive.

    No real surprise for that route. Cars and buses have to
    take a longer route around the very centre of town, in
    fact the cars have to take a very long tortuous route
    (good!). Peds and wheelchairs can take a very direct
    route. Cyclists can be fairly direct---they can't go the
    wrong way down a bus only one-way street unlike the peds
    and wheelchairs.

    <underappreciated_fact_of_no_interest_to_those_not_cycling_-
    in_Oxford>

    Cyclists *can* go along Queen Street against the motorised
    flow before 9am and after 6pm, so at the time of the
    challenge (8:15am) cyclists could have taken the most direct
    possible route.

    </underappreciated_fact_of_no_interest_to_those_not_cycling-
    _in_Oxford>

    --
    Richard Stamper

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  17. Colin Blackburn
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    #17
    Richard Stamper said:

    <underappreciated_fact_of_no_interest_to_those_not_cyclin-
    g_in_Oxford>

    Cyclists *can* go along Queen Street against the motorised
    flow before 9am and after 6pm, so at the time of the
    challenge (8:15am) cyclists could have taken the most
    direct possible route.

    </underappreciated_fact_of_no_interest_to_those_not_cycli-
    ng_in_Oxford>

    I didn't know that. I knew of some of the other time
    restricted streets, Cornmarket for instance. My excuse for
    ignorance is that in my four years living in Oxford it was
    never part of a route I needed to do.

    Colin

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  18. Jeremy Parker
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    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeremy Parker said:

    Which reminds me, has anyone else seen John Forester's
    paper on


    why

    Quoted message said:


    No. Got a link?

    --
    Guy

    Alas no. Even he doesn't seem to have a copy of his own
    paper any more. It turns out, though, that there are all
    sorts of similarities

    reality most people just pick up misinformation in the
    gutter, from their friends

    - the motive for the education certainly isn't that you do
    more of it, and have more fun doing it. Rather it's to
    avoid you having an unfortunate accident, especially on
    school premises, thereby bringing the name of the school
    into disrepute. Ideally the result of the education will
    be that you take up the activity as late as possible, do
    as little as possible, and do it as far away from the
    school as possible.

    - the teacher always seems to know less about the subject
    than the kids

    The wisdom of the newsgroup could probably add a few more
    similarities.

    Actually, John Forester wrote his paper a long time ago.
    There wasn't so much emphasis on wearing the correct
    protective equipment in those days. Don't get muddled. It's
    cycling where you wear the helmet.

    Jeremy Parker

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  19. Dave Kahn
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    #19
    Jeremy Parker said:

    Actually, John Forester wrote his paper a long time ago.
    There wasn't so much emphasis on wearing the correct
    protective equipment in those days. Don't get muddled. It's
    cycling where you wear the helmet.

    In the other activity the protective equipment is worn /on/
    the helmet.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
    Mark Twain

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  20. Daniel Barlow
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    #20
    Jeremy Parker said:

    Which reminds me, has anyone else seen John Forester's
    paper on why

    [page break for those who may be offended by strong
    language]

    It makes claims to fill an important need but is really
    just a gesture

    -dan

    --
    "please make sure that the person is your friend before
    you confirm"

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