OW!! OW OW OW!!!

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh, look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've
got big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am
not particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty
is fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

When I read stuff like this, I always wonder what the little people do with
these superlight guns. Maybe these featherweight guns should come witha
warning label.

Caution: If you are a wimp, this gun will break your hand!!

Or something similar .........

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better. Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting is.

David

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better. Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting is.

David

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

Somewhere I remember reading that large loads make it hard to shoot
people because the recoil makes re-targeting a real challenge. Unless
you've tied them to a fence or something I suppose.

I don't know much about guns, but would it be safe to say that a weapon
intended for self defense, a light pistol like this should be loaded
with a lighter load?

- bc

In article <[email hidden]>,

bc said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've
got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

David

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

Somewhere I remember reading that large loads make it hard to shoot
people because the recoil makes re-targeting a real challenge. Unless
you've tied them to a fence or something I suppose.

Depends on the size of the handgun.
My .357 Ruger Redhawk is quite accurate thank you.
With .38 or .357 rounds...

It looks like a mini-cannon.
Not a good CW gun. <lol>
But adequate for home defense which is why I bought it.

Quoted message said:

I don't know much about guns, but would it be safe to say that a weapon
intended for self defense, a light pistol like this should be loaded
with a lighter load?

- bc

No. For home defense, one needs a BIGGER GUN!!!

Personally, I can't hit [censored] with a gun that fits in the palm of my
hand. :-( But that's just me. I've since opted for larger weapons.

I hit my target with those, thanks!

The new S&W semi-automatic 9mm has yet to be fired, but I've test fired
similar weapons and did ok. I'll be taking my CW class with this one so
time will tell...

Cheers!

Quoted message said:

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've
got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

Quoted message said:

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

That is a TERRIBLY racist remark!

Those .357s should go back where they come from, huh?

Shame...

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've
got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

Quoted message said:

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

That is a TERRIBLY racist remark!

Those .357s should go back where they come from, huh?

Shame...

David

<snork>

You started it. ;-)

Next time try a .38......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh, look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl.
I've got big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast,
and am not particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little
beauty is fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
but if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
shooting, I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such
pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

When I read stuff like this, I always wonder what the little people do
with these superlight guns. Maybe these featherweight guns should come
witha warning label.

Caution: If you are a wimp, this gun will break your hand!!

Or something similar .........

Or the little people need to use the proper load. This gun would be PERFECT
as a carry gun for the stereotypic small female who isn't into guns. It's so
small and light that it will actually get carried, it's utterly reliable,
simple to use...pull trigger, go bang, pull trigger again, go bang
again...and, with the proper load, easy for anyone to handle. A nice
standard pressure Nyclad HP, maybe.

The hot .357 loads are for those who can handle them, despite the <sob> pain
<ow>.

David

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert,
just me and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357
magnum revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it
is in the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh, look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl.
I've got big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast,
and am not particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little
beauty is fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
but if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
shooting, I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such
pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

When I read stuff like this, I always wonder what the little people do
with these superlight guns. Maybe these featherweight guns should come
witha warning label.

Caution: If you are a wimp, this gun will break your hand!!

Or something similar .........

Or the little people need to use the proper load. This gun would be
PERFECT as a carry gun for the stereotypic small female who isn't into
guns. It's so small and light that it will actually get carried, it's
utterly reliable, simple to use...pull trigger, go bang, pull trigger
again, go bang again...and, with the proper load, easy for anyone to
handle. A nice standard pressure Nyclad HP, maybe.

The hot .357 loads are for those who can handle them, despite the <sob>
pain <ow>.

Wimp.

"bc" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert,
just me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my
S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it
is in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum,
one of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!!
HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled
so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger
guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to
get the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've
got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am
not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

Somewhere I remember reading that large loads make it hard to shoot
people because the recoil makes re-targeting a real challenge. Unless
you've tied them to a fence or something I suppose.

This can be true, but, in this case, the little gun with full power loads is
perfectly controllable, for me, just damned painful.

Quoted message said:

I don't know much about guns, but would it be safe to say that a weapon
intended for self defense, a light pistol like this should be loaded
with a lighter load?

For a weapon intended for self defense, it should be loaded with the most
powerful ammunition that can be handled by the shooter and that which is
consistant with tactical considerations, such as desired depth of
penetration.

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

"bc" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert,
> just me
> and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
> revolver.
>
> First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
> target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.
>
> Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my
> S&W
> Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it
> is in
> the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.
>
> Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum,
> one of
> the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
> large
> for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
> Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
> now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
> Oh,
> look, what an interesting cloud formation...
>
> I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!!
> HOLY
> [censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
> Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled
> so
> violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger
> guard.
> Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to
> get the
> feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've
> got
> big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am
> not
> particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
> fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!
>
> I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s,
> but
> if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
> shooting,
> I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!
>
> Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
> is.

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

Somewhere I remember reading that large loads make it hard to shoot
people because the recoil makes re-targeting a real challenge. Unless
you've tied them to a fence or something I suppose.

This can be true, but, in this case, the little gun with full power loads is
perfectly controllable, for me, just damned painful.

Quoted message said:

I don't know much about guns, but would it be safe to say that a weapon
intended for self defense, a light pistol like this should be loaded
with a lighter load?

For a weapon intended for self defense, it should be loaded with the most
powerful ammunition that can be handled by the shooter and that which is
consistant with tactical considerations, such as desired depth of
penetration.

David

I S'pose the pain is negligible with the adreneline rush? ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

David Cohen said:

"bc" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert,
> > just me
> > and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
> > revolver.
> >
> > First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard
> > pressure
> > target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.
> >
> > Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my
> > S&W
> > Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as
> > it
> > is in
> > the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.
> >
> > Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum,
> > one of
> > the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too
> > large
> > for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
> > Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better.
> > And,
> > now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much
> > better.
> > Oh,
> > look, what an interesting cloud formation...
> >
> > I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!!
> > HOLY
> > [censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
> > Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker
> > recoiled
> > so
> > violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger
> > guard.
> > Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to
> > get the
> > feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl.
> > I've
> > got
> > big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am
> > not
> > particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty
> > is
> > fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!
> >
> > I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with
> > .357s,
> > but
> > if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done
> > shooting,
> > I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!
> >
> > Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun
> > shooting
> > is.
>
> IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

Somewhere I remember reading that large loads make it hard to shoot
people because the recoil makes re-targeting a real challenge. Unless
you've tied them to a fence or something I suppose.

This can be true, but, in this case, the little gun with full power loads
is
perfectly controllable, for me, just damned painful.

Quoted message said:

I don't know much about guns, but would it be safe to say that a weapon
intended for self defense, a light pistol like this should be loaded
with a lighter load?

For a weapon intended for self defense, it should be loaded with the most
powerful ammunition that can be handled by the shooter and that which is
consistant with tactical considerations, such as desired depth of
penetration.

I S'pose the pain is negligible with the adreneline rush? ;-)

That's what the people who have actually been in gun fights report.

David

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "David Cohen"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better. Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

Pain is just weakness leaving the body.

Quoted message said:

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting is.

I just might look into purchasing that same revolver...the Smith that
is.

"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

Pain is just weakness leaving the body.

Excellent. I had plenty of weakness, and some blood, leave today.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

I just might look into purchasing that same revolver...the Smith that
is.

Awesome carry gun: tiny, light, reliable. And if ever needed for Hmong
control, you'll never notice the weakness leaving your body, until later.

David

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:34:26 GMT, "David Cohen"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just
me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum
revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is
in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one
of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better.
Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get
the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

Pain is just weakness leaving the body.

Excellent. I had plenty of weakness, and some blood, leave today.

Jim Janos, aka Jesse the body Ventura, would be proud of you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting
is.

I just might look into purchasing that same revolver...the Smith that
is.

Awesome carry gun: tiny, light, reliable. And if ever needed for Hmong
control, you'll never notice the weakness leaving your body, until later.

Hehe. You know, from following SCH for a while now, I've discovered
that cannibalism was/is more than rare in their culture. That
disturbs me more than their outrage at the outcome of the Vang trial.

bc said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

So, there I am this morning, out in the middle of the Mojave Desert, just me
and my little, weightless, S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum revolver.

First up, Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp, a nice, light, standard pressure
target load. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. No biggie.

Next, Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp, the load I normally carry in my S&W
Bodyguards. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG. As unpleasant to shoot as it is in
the alloy Lightweight Bodyguard, but no worse.

Okey, dokey, now to why I'm out here. Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum, one of
the hottest factory loads available. Damn, those cartridges look too large
for this little gun. Hmmm...they do seem to fit in the chambers.
Okay...WAIT! Better adjust my hearing protection. There. Better. And,
now...WAIT, WAIT! I'm thirsty, better have some water. Ah. Much better. Oh,
look, what an interesting cloud formation...

I'm an atheist, but, what the hell: let us pray. Dear Lord BLAM!!!! HOLY
[censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ, that hurt.
Uh...where's the blood coming from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled so
violently, my trigger finger got cut on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW! <shaking hand, trying to get the
feeling back> Ya' know, except for the pain, this is pretty kewl. I've got
big hands, am pretty strong, have over 200 pounds of ballast, and am not
particularly recoil shy, and except for the pain, this little beauty is
fairly easy to control. BLAM!!!! OW OW OW BLAM!!!!! DONE!

I think I'll skip the Magnaporting. The gun's controllable with .357s, but
if I ever have to actually shoot somebody with it, when I'm done shooting,
I'm gonna' beat the [censored] out of the guy for causing me such pain!

Next time, my Ruger Single Six .22, so I can remember what fun shooting is.

David

IMHO .357 rounds don't belong in small guns...... ;-)

Somewhere I remember reading that large loads make it hard to shoot
people because the recoil makes re-targeting a real challenge. Unless
you've tied them to a fence or something I suppose.

I don't know much about guns, but would it be safe to say that a weapon
intended for self defense, a light pistol like this should be loaded
with a lighter load?

- bc

No.

When I walk around with my S&W 360 - hammered version of the above - I
load .357 mag Black Talons. One shot stops are a Good Thing.

Quoted message said:

Personally, I can't hit [censored] with a gun that fits in the palm of my
hand. :-( But that's just me. I've since opted for larger weapons.

Thumb the hammer back, put your finger on the trigger, and stab him in
the body with the barrel. ;-)

Quoted message said:

For a weapon intended for self defense, it should be loaded with the most
powerful ammunition that can be handled by the shooter and that which is
consistant with tactical considerations, such as desired depth of
penetration.

There was that FBI thing that .357 mag had the highest one-shot-stop
ratio of any handgun; it's why I bought the 360.

David Cohen wrote: (snipped here and there)

Quoted message said:

S&W 340PD scandium/titanium .357 magnum revolver.
Winchester 130 gr FMJ .38Sp
Federal 158 gr LSWHP +P .38Sp
Corbon 125 gr JHP .357 magnum
hearing protection
BLAM!!!! HOLY [censored]!!! WHAT THE HELL
WAS THAT?!? OW! OW OW OW!!! Christ,
that hurt. Uh...where's the blood coming
from? Damn! That little sucker recoiled
so violently, my trigger finger got cut
on the inside of the trigger guard.
Well, BLAM!!!! OW! BLAM!!!! OW OW OW OW OW!
<shaking hand, trying to get the feeling
back>

This is why I much prefer a jagged-edged, two-pound river rock. No
recoil.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

T said:

Quoted message said:

Personally, I can't hit [censored] with a gun that fits in the palm of my
hand. :-( But that's just me. I've since opted for larger weapons.

Thumb the hammer back, put your finger on the trigger, and stab him in
the body with the barrel. ;-)

D'you really want to get that close? ;-D
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson