Overhead

On 03/21/2004 11:57 AM, in article [email hidden],

Richard Longwood said:

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<http://www.laf.org/contact/>

Which one of the above links confirms what Chris Reynolds
wrote below?

None of them.

The 2002 Form 990 (available from the guidestar.org link)
shows what actually happened as reported to the IRS, and
shows grants in excess of $2,000,000 ... And compensation to
Lance Armstrong of $0.00.

The 2003 Form 990 has not yet been filed, or is not yet
available.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Reynold"
<[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Ride
to enable LAF more cashflow

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Have you seen the LAF filing with the IRS for last year?

1. NO MONEY AT ALL was given to any charity, or cancer
organization or research group.

2. IT ALL WENT TO OVERHEAD, into the pockets of the
Armstrongs, the exec staff, and to advertizing the
"Lance image".

This is public information, it is easier to setup such
in Texas.

You give your money to them, because you like bicycles,
the image. I donate to reputable organizations Directly
involved with Cancer, not a "scam" like LAF.

Check it out yourself.

Then again, you probably work for LAF.

Chris

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From: "Chris Reynold":

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Have you seen the LAF filing with the IRS for last year?

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1. NO MONEY AT ALL was given to any charity, or cancer
organization or research group.

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2. IT ALL WENT TO OVERHEAD, into the pockets of the
Armstrongs, the exec staff, and to advertizing the
"Lance image".

Quoted message said:

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This is public information, it is easier to setup such
in Texas.

You give your money to them, because you like bicycles,
the image. I donate to reputable organizations Directly
involved with Cancer, not a "scam" like LAF.

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Check it out yourself.

Did. From the LAF site:

<Research Grants The Foundation aims to fund research
projects that are not readily fundable from traditional
sources and to encourage and support the efforts of lesser-
known investigators. Since its inception, the LAF has
awarded more than $6.4 million in research grants.>

Didn't see a dollar amount for the Community section.

Perhaps you can provide a hint about how the money went
"into the Armstrongs' pockets". --TP

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This is public information, it is easier to setup such
in Texas.

You give your money to them, because you like bicycles,
the image. I donate to reputable organizations Directly
involved with Cancer, not a "scam" like LAF.

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Quoted message said:

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Check it out yourself.

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Did. From the LAF site:

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<Research Grants The Foundation aims to fund research
projects that are not readily fundable from traditional
sources and to encourage and support the efforts of lesser-
known investigators. Since its inception, the LAF has
awarded more than $6.4 million in research grants.>

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Didn't see a dollar amount for the Community section.

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Perhaps you can provide a hint about how the money went
"into the Armstrongs' pockets". --TP

To who was the money awarded? Where did it go? To bad it
can't be publically verified where the money was spent, we
need a FULL disclosure. Shell game. Read it closely. You
won't get it from LAF website.

Money did not go directly to Lance, -but paid for his
expences, -Paid the Media for selling his Image, -paid for
the staff, -staff expenses, -his x-wife -and so on.

"lesser-known investigators", like the so called "Dr."
McKearns a "herbologist", who formally worked on, and lost
Steve McQueen.

The organization is too "new-age" for me, believe in what
you want to. They support a place called the Crossroads in
Far North Austin, a "new age" Cosmic center.

If I am wrong, I take it all back, but this comes from one
who invested in it for a while, till truth came out.

To who did the money get paid? To who did the money
get paid....

--Chris

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From: Chris Reynolds

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If I am wrong, I take it all back, but this comes from one
who invested in it for a while, till truth came out.

"Invested?" "Truth came out"? Where and when did the "truth
come out"?

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To bad it can't be publically verified where the money was
spent, we need a FULL disclosure. Shell game. Read it
closely. You won't get it from LAF website.

Money did not go directly to Lance, -but paid for his
expences, -Paid the Media for selling his Image, -paid for
the staff, -staff expenses, -his x-wife -and so on.

Prove it. Especially curious about how the "Media" was hired
to "sell Lance". Staff/staff expenses *should* be paid for
in a professional organization. The salaries I saw were no
way out of line (IMHO). What does "his x-wife" mean,
exactly? Enumerate "and so on", please.

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"lesser-known investigators", like the so called "Dr."
McKearns a "herbologist", who formally worked on, and lost
Steve McQueen.

Stop throwing dirt. You have complaints about anyone the LAF
has funded, let's get some specifics. Steve McQueen died in
1980; I doubt there is much connection to LAF or that anyone
connected with them promotes coffee enemas as effective
cancer treatment.

Sounds like you live in Austin. Care to name your source
for this info? Come on, these are pretty serious
charges, you need to be able to withstand a little
scrutiny here. TIA --TP

On 03/21/2004 05:32 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Tom Paterson"

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Quoted message said:

From: Chris Reynolds

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If I am wrong, I take it all back, but this comes from
one who invested in it for a while, till truth came out.

"Invested?" "Truth came out"? Where and when did the
"truth come out"?

Quoted message said:

To bad it can't be publically verified where the money
was spent, we need a FULL disclosure. Shell game. Read it
closely. You won't get it from LAF website.

Money did not go directly to Lance, -but paid for his
expences, -Paid the Media for selling his Image, -paid
for the staff, -staff expenses, -his x-wife -and so on.

Prove it. Especially curious about how the "Media" was
hired to "sell Lance". Staff/staff expenses *should* be
paid for in a professional organization. The salaries I
saw were no way out of line (IMHO). What does "his x-wife"
mean, exactly? Enumerate "and so on", please.

Quoted message said:

"lesser-known investigators", like the so called "Dr."
McKearns a "herbologist", who formally worked on, and
lost Steve McQueen.

Stop throwing dirt. You have complaints about anyone the
LAF has funded, let's get some specifics. Steve McQueen
died in 1980; I doubt there is much connection to LAF or
that anyone connected with them promotes coffee enemas as
effective cancer treatment.

Sounds like you live in Austin. Care to name your source
for this info? Come on, these are pretty serious charges,
you need to be able to withstand a little scrutiny here.
TIA --TP

See the 2002 Form 990 at the following link:

veloworks.comlaf form990.pdfOpen ↗

Please show me where in that document is support for your
allegations. I see two pages of grants to cancer research
and education foundations.

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Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

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See the 2002 Form 990 at the following link:

Quoted message said:

veloworks.comlaf form990.pdfOpen ↗

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Please show me where in that document is support for your
allegations. I see two pages of grants to cancer research
and education foundations.

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Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net

I could not believe my eyes,

What I see is $5,116,280 in something called ""expenses"",
This is an attempt to avoid Federal taxes, This is obvious
slush fund for LA and Friends.

TOO BAD THEY DID NOT GIVE $5,116,280 TO HELP CANCER VICTIMS!

Wake up, yes, you are being exploited by LAF.

ci

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Quoted message said:

See the 2002 Form 990 at the following link:

Quoted message said:

veloworks.comlaf form990.pdfOpen ↗

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Please show me where in that document is support for your
allegations. I see two pages of grants to cancer research
and education foundations.

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Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net

I could not believe my eyes,

What I see is $5,116,280 in something called ""expenses"",
This is an attempt to avoid Federal taxes, This is obvious
slush fund for LA and Friends.

TOO BAD THEY DID NOT GIVE $5,116,280 TO HELP CANCER VICTIMS!

Wake up, yes, you are being exploited by LAF, LA Slush Fund.

ci

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done, at a moment's notice.

"Chou Ino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V59B1I6M38068.3018981482@Gilgamesh-
Frog.org...

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See the 2002 Form 990 at the following link:

Quoted message said:

veloworks.comlaf form990.pdfOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

Please show me where in that document is support for your
allegations. I see two pages of grants to cancer research
and education foundations.

--

Quoted message said:

Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com
veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net

I could not believe my eyes,

What I see is $5,116,280 in something called ""expenses"",
This is an attempt to avoid Federal taxes, This is obvious
slush fund for LA and Friends.

TOO BAD THEY DID NOT GIVE $5,116,280 TO HELP CANCER
VICTIMS!

Wake up, yes, your are being exploited by LAF.

ci

Chou Ino tried to start a local civil war at every street
corner, telling people that first they had to secede from
the world before they could secede from themselves. And
that, once they did that, they'd be free from the tyranny of
the idea of life and could stop paying all taxes: local,
state, national, international, and interpersonal. Sure,
they'd be out of a job -- but who cares?! "And let's make
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and forge a new regime, let's make sure that dumb money is
not the only truth, anymore!" And everyone would pretend to
half-heartedly agree with that, of course, though they all
knew it could never really happen that way. "And no faking
reality, either," he'd usually call out from the crowd, to
emphasize this, and everybody'd laugh.

"Chou Ino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V59B1I6M38068.3018981482@Gilgamesh-
Frog.org...

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See the 2002 Form 990 at the following link:

Quoted message said:

veloworks.comlaf form990.pdfOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

Please show me where in that document is support for your
allegations. I see two pages of grants to cancer research
and education foundations.

--

Quoted message said:

Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com
veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net

I could not believe my eyes,

What I see is $5,116,280 in something called ""expenses"",
This is an attempt to avoid Federal taxes, This is obvious
slush fund for LA and Friends.

TOO BAD THEY DID NOT GIVE $5,116,280 TO HELP CANCER
VICTIMS!

Wake up, yes, your are being exploited by LAF.

ci

On 03/21/2004 11:41 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Chou Ino" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I could not believe my eyes,

What I see is $5,116,280 in something called ""expenses"",
This is an attempt to avoid Federal taxes, This is obvious
slush fund for LA and Friends.

TOO BAD THEY DID NOT GIVE $5,116,280 TO HELP CANCER
VICTIMS!

Wake up, yes, you are being exploited by LAF, LA
Slush Fund.

And if you look on page 2, you see the break down of
those expenses:

Grants & Allocations $2,097,977 Compensation of Officers and
Directors $ 0 Other Salaries & Wages $ 782,343 Payroll Taxes
$ 52.028 Legal Fees $ 306,363 Supplies $ 39,817 Telephone $
14,436 Postage & Shipping $ 89,640 Occupancy $ 220,301
Equipment Rental & Maintenance $ 187,367 Printing &
Publications $ 142,970 Travel $ 29,063 Depreciation (see
STMT 7) $ 43,131 Other Expenses (see STMT 8) $1,110,844
----------------------------------------------------------
Totals $5,116,280

Statement 8 breaks down that last $1,110,844 into all its
various component parts as well.

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at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

Chou Ino said:

I could not believe my eyes,

What I see is $5,116,280 in something called ""expenses"",
This is an attempt to avoid Federal taxes, This is obvious
slush fund for LA and Friends.

TOO BAD THEY DID NOT GIVE $5,116,280 TO HELP CANCER
VICTIMS!

Wake up, yes, your are being exploited by LAF.

You're being exploited by working with a 133 MHz brain in a
3.0 GHz world. $ 2,000,000 of the expenses are grants paid,
and more than 80% of the expenses are program expenses.
Neither extraordinarily good or bad, and it would take about
three or four years of 990s to make that determination.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

"Jason Waddell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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you can't expect people to read past the first page...

Jason Waddell major stock holder in The STAR, The National
Inquirer and those other rags

that

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talk about Elvis having a Lesbian Alien Baby at a Kentucky
Fried Chicken store...

Please post a link to the story about Elvis/Lesbian
Alien Baby/KFC.

Thanks, Bob C.