"Overcoming" Music Q

"Cat Dailey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just watched "Overcoming" last night and was wondering if anyone knows the
artist/title/album of the drum music during the part where Lance and Ivan
Basso are climbing to La Mongie. I can't tell from the closing credits.

Any help would be appreciated,
Cat

I'm expecting my copy of the DVD any day now, so I will let you know if I
know the music.

Henrik

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Just watched "Overcoming" last night and was wondering if anyone knows
the artist/title/album of the drum music during the part where Lance and
Ivan Basso are climbing to La Mongie. I can't tell from the closing
credits.

Any help would be appreciated,
Cat

I'm expecting my copy of the DVD any day now, so I will let you know if I
know the music.

Henrik

Thank you Henrik! I would be curious to know your opinion of the film as
well!

Cat

Cat Dailey said:

Thank you Henrik! I would be curious to know your opinion of the film as
well!

I just got it and it was pretty intense. But I didn't really enjoy it
or have much interest in watching it again -- too much introspection,
and emotion, and guys talking to each other man-to-man and saying all
sorts of heartfelt deep stuff.

Worth seeing, but I'm not sure it was worth paying for.

For me, Hell on Wheels with Telekom is better.

JT

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Cat Dailey said:

Thank you Henrik! I would be curious to know your opinion of the film as
well!

I just got it and it was pretty intense. But I didn't really enjoy it
or have much interest in watching it again -- too much introspection,
and emotion, and guys talking to each other man-to-man and saying all
sorts of heartfelt deep stuff.

Worth seeing, but I'm not sure it was worth paying for.

For me, Hell on Wheels with Telekom is better.

JT

And for me, it was probably the one and only cycling film that I would say
is not even worth seeing. I just can't understand what all the good press
was all about. It was so disjointed that you couldn't even get a sense of
where in the race they were or what the issues were. The real highlight,
and I mean he was just AWESOME was the team chiropractor, I think his name
was Ole? That guy was just brilliant. The talking to that he gave to
Bjarne gave me goosebumps. And all along I thought Bjarne was the super
motivator, uber coach.

As an aside, I've ridden with Bobby Julich before and met his wife and I
think he's a super nice guy. I can see, however, through this film, why he
might have the reputation in the peloton as being a bit of a whiner. I
don't for a minute think he is a whiner, but the combination of his voice
and the way he expresses himself might be misinterpreted as such.

The scene with Bjarne talking to Ivan Basso about what happened the day
after La Mongie when he and Lance again rode side by side with Lance taking
the day was a hoot. Ivan was so busy munching on his ricecake that he
looked like he didn't give a sh** what Bjarne was telling him (which I
interpreted as, you LET Lance win today, you could have beaten him again).
And the fact that a guy who probably just burned off about 8,000 calories
would each a disgusting, tastes like cardboard dry ricecake was a bit on
enlightenment for me.

Anyway, sorry to be so long winded but you are the only other person who I
know who's seen the film ;>

Cat

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Cat Dailey said:

Thank you Henrik! I would be curious to know your opinion of the film as
well!

I just got it and it was pretty intense. But I didn't really enjoy it
or have much interest in watching it again -- too much introspection,
and emotion, and guys talking to each other man-to-man and saying all
sorts of heartfelt deep stuff.

Worth seeing, but I'm not sure it was worth paying for.

For me, Hell on Wheels with Telekom is better.

JT

And for me, it was probably the one and only cycling film that I would say
is not even worth seeing. I just can't understand what all the good press
was all about. It was so disjointed that you couldn't even get a sense of
where in the race they were or what the issues were. The real highlight,
and I mean he was just AWESOME was the team chiropractor, I think his name
was Ole? That guy was just brilliant. The talking to that he gave to
Bjarne gave me goosebumps. And all along I thought Bjarne was the super
motivator, uber coach.

As an aside, I've ridden with Bobby Julich before and met his wife and I
think he's a super nice guy. I can see, however, through this film, why he
might have the reputation in the peloton as being a bit of a whiner. I
don't for a minute think he is a whiner, but the combination of his voice
and the way he expresses himself might be misinterpreted as such.

The scene with Bjarne talking to Ivan Basso about what happened the day
after La Mongie when he and Lance again rode side by side with Lance taking
the day was a hoot. Ivan was so busy munching on his ricecake that he
looked like he didn't give a sh** what Bjarne was telling him (which I
interpreted as, you LET Lance win today, you could have beaten him again).
And the fact that a guy who probably just burned off about 8,000 calories
would each a disgusting, tastes like cardboard dry ricecake was a bit on
enlightenment for me.

Anyway, sorry to be so long winded

Not at all. It's a hoot. You put it across very well, and
I welcome what you say about B. Julich. Would you say a
few more words about the chiropractor and Bjarne?

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but you are the only other person who I
know who's seen the film ;>

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Cat Dailey said:

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On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:53:01 -0500, "Cat Dailey"
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>
>Thank you Henrik! I would be curious to know your opinion of the film
>as
>well!

I just got it and it was pretty intense. But I didn't really enjoy it
or have much interest in watching it again -- too much introspection,
and emotion, and guys talking to each other man-to-man and saying all
sorts of heartfelt deep stuff.

Worth seeing, but I'm not sure it was worth paying for.

For me, Hell on Wheels with Telekom is better.

JT

And for me, it was probably the one and only cycling film that I would
say
is not even worth seeing. I just can't understand what all the good
press
was all about. It was so disjointed that you couldn't even get a sense
of
where in the race they were or what the issues were. The real highlight,
and I mean he was just AWESOME was the team chiropractor, I think his
name
was Ole? That guy was just brilliant. The talking to that he gave to
Bjarne gave me goosebumps. And all along I thought Bjarne was the super
motivator, uber coach.

As an aside, I've ridden with Bobby Julich before and met his wife and I
think he's a super nice guy. I can see, however, through this film, why
he
might have the reputation in the peloton as being a bit of a whiner. I
don't for a minute think he is a whiner, but the combination of his voice
and the way he expresses himself might be misinterpreted as such.

The scene with Bjarne talking to Ivan Basso about what happened the day
after La Mongie when he and Lance again rode side by side with Lance
taking
the day was a hoot. Ivan was so busy munching on his ricecake that he
looked like he didn't give a sh** what Bjarne was telling him (which I
interpreted as, you LET Lance win today, you could have beaten him
again).
And the fact that a guy who probably just burned off about 8,000 calories
would each a disgusting, tastes like cardboard dry ricecake was a bit on
enlightenment for me.

Anyway, sorry to be so long winded

Not at all. It's a hoot. You put it across very well, and
I welcome what you say about B. Julich. Would you say a
few more words about the chiropractor and Bjarne?

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but you are the only other person who I
know who's seen the film ;>

--
Michael Press

Sure. It was very clear that from the beginning of the race, he was looking
for ways to help each individual rider on his own terms, particularly Carlos
Sastre, who appeared to be a little bit of a head case. Ole was extremely
kind and was really good at giving each rider a gentle pep talk after each
day's stage. When he took Bjarne aside, he told him that he was basically
being too hard and dour and that the riders needed some psychological boost
from time to time. The way he expressed himself was just awesome and I
thought to myself, "that guy has got huge brass ones to be talking to Bjarne
in this way." He was just old school, I am speaking to you as a friend, but
pulling absolutely no punches in the delivery. Like I said, goosebump
material. The other thing, which I had NO IDEA happened in professional
racing, was that riders from other teams wanted to use his services during
the race, which Bjarne finally put a stop to. He is evidently super highly
regarded as someone who can "fix" whatever ails a rider. It was so sad to
see one rider (I can't remember who it was) from another team basically
begging he and Bjarne to let Ole look at him every day after every stage.

Cat

Cat Dailey said:

Sure. It was very clear that from the beginning of the race, he was looking
for ways to help each individual rider on his own terms, particularly Carlos
Sastre, who appeared to be a little bit of a head case. Ole was extremely
kind and was really good at giving each rider a gentle pep talk after each
day's stage. When he took Bjarne aside, he told him that he was basically
being too hard and dour and that the riders needed some psychological boost
from time to time. The way he expressed himself was just awesome and I
thought to myself, "that guy has got huge brass ones to be talking to Bjarne
in this way." He was just old school, I am speaking to you as a friend, but
pulling absolutely no punches in the delivery. Like I said, goosebump
material.

The one other element was that in this scene, as in many others, I
felt that the guys talking were about to either start:
1. crying
2. punching each other
3. making out with each other.

It was way over the top.

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The other thing, which I had NO IDEA happened in professional
racing, was that riders from other teams wanted to use his services during
the race, which Bjarne finally put a stop to. He is evidently super highly
regarded as someone who can "fix" whatever ails a rider. It was so sad to
see one rider (I can't remember who it was) from another team basically
begging he and Bjarne to let Ole look at him every day after every stage.

I hate to admit I missed that, probably due to wiping the tears out of
my eyes from some other heart-wrenching scene

JT

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Cat Dailey said:

Sure. It was very clear that from the beginning of the race, he was
looking
for ways to help each individual rider on his own terms, particularly
Carlos
Sastre, who appeared to be a little bit of a head case. Ole was extremely
kind and was really good at giving each rider a gentle pep talk after each
day's stage. When he took Bjarne aside, he told him that he was basically
being too hard and dour and that the riders needed some psychological
boost
from time to time. The way he expressed himself was just awesome and I
thought to myself, "that guy has got huge brass ones to be talking to
Bjarne
in this way." He was just old school, I am speaking to you as a friend,
but
pulling absolutely no punches in the delivery. Like I said, goosebump
material.

The one other element was that in this scene, as in many others, I
felt that the guys talking were about to either start:
1. crying
2. punching each other
3. making out with each other.

It was way over the top.

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The other thing, which I had NO IDEA happened in professional
racing, was that riders from other teams wanted to use his services during
the race, which Bjarne finally put a stop to. He is evidently super
highly
regarded as someone who can "fix" whatever ails a rider. It was so sad to
see one rider (I can't remember who it was) from another team basically
begging he and Bjarne to let Ole look at him every day after every stage.

I hate to admit I missed that, probably due to wiping the tears out of
my eyes from some other heart-wrenching scene

JT

Man, how did you miss that? It went on for like DAYS. It was just so sad
to see the guy groveling ;> I just kept wanting him to go away already. It
was pathetic.

And with the first scene that you commented on, I just kept expecting Bjarne
to tell him, "you're fired!"

Cat

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Thank you Henrik! I would be curious to know your opinion of the film as
well!

Cat

Hey Cat

Finally, I got my copy. What a wait :o)

I couldn't figure out the music though. Perhaps writing to the producers of
the film is the only solution.

It was a special and rare look behind the scenes of a pro cycling team. I
enjoyed it. The scene with Ole telling Riis smile a bit more is great. I
like the scenes with Sastre as well, he seems like a funny guy, but not the
type of rider who enjoys Riis' training methods. Cool to see Riis letting
Sastre have a day "off" where he could train like he wanted to.

Lots of good stuff, and I think it shows that the riders enjoy being on this
team.

:Henrik

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I couldn't figure out the music though. Perhaps writing to the producers of
the film is the only solution.

Did you ever think about looking online?

According to the credits at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465556/fullcredits

"Original Music by Tobias Marberger"

Some samples of work by Tobias Marberger on the following pages:

http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilogy/demos.html
http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/stylusrmx/demos.html
http://www2.hku.nl/%7Ejnd/files/demos_sam/truestrike_borbazor.mp3
http://tombstone.avocade.com/marberger_v2/indexFlash.html

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On 02/07/2006 03:34 AM, in article
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Did you ever think about looking online?

According to the credits at
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465556/fullcredits

"Original Music by Tobias Marberger"

Some samples of work by Tobias Marberger on the following pages:

http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilogy/demos.html
http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/stylusrmx/demos.html
http://www2.hku.nl/%7Ejnd/files/demos_sam/truestrike_borbazor.mp3
http://tombstone.avocade.com/marberger_v2/indexFlash.html

Brilliant Steven :o)

Somehow I figured Cat had already tried this.

Thanx

Henrik