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    Quoted message said:

    Why is it constantly necessary for some to find fault with USS? Some feel more comfortable on
    USS, some don't. If YOU don't like it, let it go. Let each find his/her own way. For every
    reason I read for not riding USS, I can match it with one for shunning ASS. This doesn't mean I
    am going to take every opportunity on this NG to run ASS(or OSS, if you prefer) into the ground.
    Ride what you like. If somebody doesn't like it, tell 'em to F.O.

    Rorschandt "Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." ~Dennis Miller

    And what would one reason be for shunning oss? Freddy

  2. rorschandt said:

    George MacKenzie <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    () said:

    And what would one reason be for shunning oss? Freddy

    I'll give two reasons:

    1) Numb fingers.

    2) The thought of what might happen to your goodies if you were to hit something straight on.

    3) Excessive cable length.

    4) Wishing no attention from the Ape-hangar Harley crowd.

    Okay, that was 4 reasons. With that said, I'll note that my bikes are OSS.

    Pretty good list! I'll add: 1)Due to an aforementioned neck/head injury,I begin to get a migraine
    after riding an OSS bike for 15 minutes+. Not a very long ride.I realize that is MY problem, but
    you asked. (^: Also, OSS places the handlebars in the field of view. Some people are made to feel
    more secure by this. I understand.2) That wide open feeling of USS is much more to my liking. 3) I
    also like the way USS looks to an observer.4)I relax more w/USS. In the end, I'd like everybody to
    ride whichever they like, with no need to rationalize the choice, or condemn what was not chosen.
    My S.O. rides OSS.

    happy trails, rorschandt

    I'm not sure why anyone would get numb fingers from OSS, but if it's like the headaches mentioned
    - due to a prior injury - then I can understand it. But as for the bars being in your field of
    view - how high do you have them? I can see on a lowrider like a Baron where this might be a
    problem, but on a V-Rex or a TE, I always have the bars about shoulder height. Sure, I can look
    down and see them, but they're really not blocking my view unless I do that. And I really do like
    having a handy place for mounting computers, lights and stuff where I can get at them more easily.
    Makes viewing and switching the computer display easier, too. I do agree: there's no need to
    rationalize your choice - pick what you like better. And as for anyone condemning either choice -
    tell them to get a life!

  3. My hands get numb and tingly on my Giro and I have the bars considerably below my shoulder height
    with the seat reclined to apx mid point of what is available. The bars clear my knees by about
    1.5". I have carefully rotated the bars so my wrist is not bent. Don

    "Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I'm not sure why anyone would get numb fingers from OSS, but if it's like the headaches
    mentioned - due to a prior injury - then I can understand it. But as for the bars being in your
    field of view - how high do you have them? I can see on a lowrider like a Baron where this might
    be a problem, but on a V-Rex or a TE, I always have the bars about shoulder height. Sure, I can
    look down and see them, but they're really not blocking my view unless I do that. And I really
    do like having a handy place for mounting computers, lights and stuff where I can get at them
    more easily. Makes viewing and switching the computer display easier, too. I do agree: there's
    no need to rationalize your choice - pick what you like better. And as for anyone condemning
    either choice - tell them to get a life!

  4. George MacKenzie said:

    2) The thought of what might happen to your goodies if you were to hit something straight on.

    Has anyone ever suffered or observed an occurrence of this? In more than twenty years of recumbent
    riding and racing, I've seen precisely one case of boshed squollocks, and that in the case of a
    monocoque streamliner colliding with a sturdy iron fence at 40 mph.

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
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  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by George Mackenzi

    [...]
    And a question for the group, don't most linked steering USS bikes have neither stem nor trail, or
    perhaps precious little if any?[...]

    They vary with regard to trail, but I think all have some. I never cared for it, but FWIW some USS bikes have huge amounts of tiller.

    Steering type seems to me to be largely a matter of personal preference, so these discussions always seem to be like chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla. (Clearly a nougat flavor known locally as Teroni is better than either.)

    JR

  6. John Riley said:

    Steering type seems to me to be largely a matter of personal preference, so these discussions
    always seem to be like chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla. (Clearly a nougat flavor known
    locally as Teroni is better than either.)

    I'll pit Nestles' "Rolo" ice cream against all takers. Chocolate ice cream, caramel ice
    cream, veins of chocolate syrup, viens of caramel syrup, and little rolo bites all in
    one spoonful!

    The winner hands down . . . . .grin.

  7. "George MacKenzie" skrev

    Quoted message said:

    It may indeed be a rare occurence, but I truly meant that just the thought of squalled boshocks
    may steer someone away from OSS.

    Seems unlikely to me. DF's offer you a much better chance of squashing stuff but I don't see
    everyone riding ladies bikes because of it.

    Cheers Mikael

  8. Bill Anton said:

    A wreck like that will surely "bosh" more than your "squollocks."

    No, honestly. The part of the bike that would have been the head tube had it been of more orthodox
    construction broke away from the rest of the machine and travelled backwards while the unfortunate
    pilot was still moving forwards. Being of low racer layout, etc, etc. But because the bike was a
    strongly-built carbon monocoque, that was all that happened. Earlier in the day, Iain James'
    unfaired bike had collided with the same fence at rather lower speed, resulting in the biggest black
    eye I've ever seen and the need for about twenty-five stitches to rebuild his nose after his chops
    had collided with the handlebars.

    Quoted message said:

    (Where *DO* you British chaps get some of these amusing slang words?)

    The Reverend W. Spooner...

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
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  9. "Andy Gee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    i've been a recumbent rider for a few years now; very happy with it. on another discussion group,
    an off-topic thread appeared about speed and efficiency comparisons between oss and uss. is there
    any non-anecdotal data about which type is faster, more mechanically efficient, more
    physiologically efficient, has less drag, etc?

    thanks!

    --ag

    Vision did some wind tunnel testing for OSS and USS bikes including with and without fairings. They
    also included road bike with and without aero bars. Its the best actual data I've ever seen. You can
    find the test report at this link visionrecumbents.comWindTunnel.pdf

    Bob

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