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  1. (Steve Pope) said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Main Entry: broil
    Pronunciation: 'broi(-&😉l
    Function: verb
    Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French bruiller to burn, broil,
    modification of Latin ustulare to singe, from urere to burn
    transitive verb : to cook by direct exposure to radiant heat : GRILL
    Dictionaries are not always dependable. The definition above is partially
    correct, but it only mentions grilling as an example. In an oven, broiling
    refers to using the top heating element to cook food from above. The heating
    element remains on at all times, so cooking time is controlled by the
    distance from the heat, and how long the food's under the heat.

    These two definition jibe, because if the heating element is
    above what's being cooked, you're getting mainly radiant heat
    (convective heat moves up from the element, not down).

    [censored]. Idiot. Moroon!

    Sheldon

  2. limey said:
    Nancy Young said:

    Broiling is done under the heat.  Your broiler will be
    either in the top of your oven or underneath in a drawer.

    Quoted message said:

    Grilling is done over the heat.  Like on a grill.  Heh.

    Well, in the UK they call broiling grilling, even though the food is
    under the element.  Confusing, eh?

    In Greece they do it sideways... hehe

    Sheldon

  3. limey said:
    Mr Libido Incognito said:

    roasting is done at an even or constant temp with possibly 2 elements
    (top and bottom) operating, in a pan with pan drippings. So you can
    baste with pan juices if you so desire. Crispness is desired.

    Quoted message said:

    baking is done at an even temp with possibly 2 elements (top and
    bottom). No pan drippings are involved. Crispness is not necessarily
    wanted.

    Oven manufacture varies, though.   The only time my oven uses the top
    and bottom elements simultaneously is when it's preheating.   Once the
    pre-set temperature is reached the top element shuts off.

    That's true of all ovens, or the top of whatever food is cooking will
    burn... if the top element does not shut off in bake mode when set
    temperature is reached then your oven control is malfunctioning, and
    your oven is operating more like a broiler... this is very dangerous
    and that roven should not be used until the malfunction is corrected.
    Ovens cook far more by convection than with radiant heat...
    conventional ovens and convection ovens are both engineered to
    maximize natural convection.

    Sheldon

  4. On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:18:11 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Baking and roasting are the same process the terms are generally changed based
    upon the food being cooked.

    That's what confuses second language learners and dummies. Everyone
    else knows that you bake a loaf of bread and roast a chicken.

    From: Encyclopaedia Britannica (nonmember)

    Baking
    process of cooking by dry heat, especially in some kind of oven. It
    is probably the oldest cooking method.

    Roasting
    the cooking, primarily of meats but also of corn ears, potatoes, or
    other vegetables thus prepared, by exposure to dry, radiant heat
    either over an open fire, within a reflecting-surface oven, or in some
    cases within surrounding hot embers, sand, or stones. The procedure is
    comparable to the baking of other foods.

    In any case, those terms come from times before we had modern
    equipment, so the methods we used to cook bread and meat probably
    *were* different.

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  5. Sheldon wrote on 06 Apr 2007 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    limey said:
    Mr Libido Incognito said:

    roasting is done at an even or constant temp with possibly 2


    elements

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (top and bottom) operating, in a pan with pan drippings. So you can
    baste with pan juices if you so desire. Crispness is desired.

    Quoted message said:

    baking is done at an even temp with possibly 2 elements (top and
    bottom). No pan drippings are involved. Crispness is not necessarily
    wanted.

    Oven manufacture varies, though.   The only time my oven uses the top
    and bottom elements simultaneously is when it's preheating.   Once the
    pre-set temperature is reached the top element shuts off.

    That's true of all ovens, or the top of whatever food is cooking will
    burn... if the top element does not shut off in bake mode when set
    temperature is reached then your oven control is malfunctioning, and
    your oven is operating more like a broiler... this is very dangerous
    and that roven should not be used until the malfunction is corrected.
    Ovens cook far more by convection than with radiant heat...
    conventional ovens and convection ovens are both engineered to
    maximize natural convection.

    Sheldon

    Did anybody notice the possibly infront of the 2 elements?

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